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01:47 Topic for #gluster is now Gluster Community - http://gluster.org | Patches - http://review.gluster.org/ | Developers go to #gluster-dev | Channel Logs - https://botbot.me/freenode/gluster/ & http://irclog.perlgeek.de/gluster/
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03:59 gbox overclk: I read a gluster-users message that the bitrot translator includes a rudimentary implementation of the gnotify functionality.  Can I test that out?
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04:02 gbox overclk: I guess bitrot is not a standalone translator.
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04:44 gbox overclk: Sorry I don't mean to ambush you first thing Monday morning.  I am very interested in gluster's bitrot & gnotify features.
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06:27 muku Hi I have a question abour gluster pricing/licensing: Am i allowed to use glusterfs for free in a commerical product?
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06:34 post-factum muku: why not?
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06:37 muku i'm just asking to be sure... open source doesn't always mean no money...
06:40 post-factum muku: if you want to pay some money for opensource, you'd buy red hat support, for example
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06:54 muku but i don't have to?
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06:58 post-factum no reason to do so if you can do that by yourself
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07:31 muku thanks
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11:30 scobanx Is there any way to start glustershd without restarting glusterd service? Sometimes when I reboot machines glustershd does not start, what is the formal way to start the glustershd process when this happens?
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11:39 atinm scobanx, gluster v start <volname> force?
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11:40 atinm scobanx, its worth to check why rebooting the machine doesn't start the shd
11:40 atinm scobanx, are you running a two node cluster when you reboot Node 1 and Node 2 is already down?
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11:43 scobanx atinm: This is a 60 node dist-disp cluster, I am doing test right now, I will try to look at the logs to see why it is not started.
11:45 atinm scobanx, in case you need further assistance related to self heal you can let itisravi & atalur know about them
11:46 atalur atinm, do you think this can be similar issue that Shwetha faced this morning? We were also seeing that glustershd doesn't start on glusterd restart with "failed to get volume name key"
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11:53 scobanx atinm: Thanks, I will let them know. The issue did not happen second time, I will repeat the tests few more times to reproduce it..
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11:59 Romeor weehaa.. I'm back
11:59 Romeor JoeJulian, got some time to discuss that disperse thing?
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15:58 Trixboxer Hi, would like to know about data motion, Im unable to find whether gluster auto moves the data to the data node from where its being demanded
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16:38 JoeJulian Romeor: Sorry, I'm in Italy playing tourist most of the day. Just working a few hours a night this week. What do you need to know?
16:38 scobanx How can I solve heal issue in this link? http://www.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-users/2016-March/026041.html
16:38 glusterbot Title: [Gluster-users] gluster heal does not work (at www.gluster.org)
16:39 JoeJulian Trixboxer: A client connects to all the servers so there is no such thing as a "where it's being demanded". The fact that your server is also a client has no bearing on that.
16:41 JoeJulian scobanx: I know next to nothing about disburse heals yet. Are you sure the files with those gfids still exist?
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16:42 scobanx Yes they were there i checked it..
16:43 scobanx the problem fixed when I deleted the files, but tomorrow I will do the fio test again and try to recreate the issue..
16:43 scobanx Can someone tell me the detailes of disperse heal?
16:46 Trixboxer JoeJulian: im working on hyperconverged vm+storage cluster and in such case, the cluster could benefit having data local, afaiu the data localness isnt there but if I want to make it by using say "assistive program" is it possible ?
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17:03 JoeJulian Trixboxer: I'm sure you could figure out a way. If you're going to code that, it would go in the distribute translator. See http://gluster.readthedocs.org/en/latest/Developer-guide/Developers-Index/ for information on contributing.
17:03 glusterbot Title: Developers Home - Gluster Docs (at gluster.readthedocs.org)
17:04 Trixboxer Thanks, let me have a look and come back in channel, btw is there any preferred time where the core devs work or its altogether a different channel..
17:04 Trixboxer sorry Im new
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17:05 JoeJulian Most of them are in Bangalore, so IST.
17:05 JoeJulian And if you're asking development questions, there is a #gluster-dev channel.
17:11 post-factum JoeJulian: how it goes in Italy?
17:16 JoeJulian It's great. Out seeing all the sights.
17:16 JoeJulian Put my toes in the Adriatic Sea for the first time yesterday. We took a train out to Rimini.
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17:58 scobanx Can someone tell me the detailes of disperse heal? How it works? Any documentation?
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18:03 toppy I got a glusterfs + ctdb setup working last Friday and was testing some file replication and access... everything seemed to be working fine until I tested an excel file. Using excel 2013 & 2016 for testing. I create a new file... save.. and I'm often getting a "Document not saved" error from excel. And then an [8 CHAR HEX STRING].TMP file will be created... and sometimes the original excel file will disappear all to
18:03 toppy Has anyone seen this before?
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19:18 jeffrin hello all
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19:32 JoeJulian toppy: I did. I disabled oplocks to fix it.
19:45 datajaguar /who
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19:49 toppy JoeJulian: ah... excellent
19:50 toppy I was looking at the various locks for samba to see if one made sense to modify
19:53 JoeJulian I wish there had been a better fix, but I hate windows so I really didn't care what my windows users got.
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19:54 toppy hmm.. says oplocks can provide a 30% gain...
19:54 JoeJulian iirc, it's a flag that's supposed to delete the tmp after closing that wasn't supported in samba.
19:54 toppy but with a gigabit connection to the network.... I can't see anyone noticing much of a difference?
19:55 JoeJulian Things ran faster when I disabled oplocks.
19:55 toppy ah, interesting
19:55 JoeJulian This was 6 years ago though. Things may have changed.
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20:17 scoban Anyone online?
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20:48 * post-factum
20:48 post-factum JoeJulian: have a good relax :)
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21:34 phibs I have two nodes and want to use 2 disks in each node for a single volume.  How can I create a redundant volume where gluster replicates but not to the same node ?
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21:39 phibs ie, can replica take into account the nodes vs just the bricks... or am I thinking wrong here
21:39 phibs is this thing on :)
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22:17 gbox phibs: by 2 disks do you mean 2 bricks?  or will each node have 1 brick?
22:18 phibs I have two nodes right now, with 4 SSDs I want to use
22:18 phibs this will be used for observium/RRD writing, I read it's not so great for that :(
22:18 gbox phibs:  OK do you want to join the SSDs on each node into bricks?
22:18 phibs I want a replica of each file on each node
22:19 gbox gbox: Yeah, lots of little updates.  You want that replicated for high-availability?
22:19 gbox *phibs
22:20 phibs yeah
22:20 gbox phibs: Ok well if you use LVM or RAID to join the SSDs on each node into bricks then you'll have two bricks & gluster will replicate automatically (using the replication translator)
22:20 phibs gbox: ah yeah gotcha
22:21 gbox gluster has a new mode were it uses JBOD without any underlying organization but that might be RHS specific
22:23 gbox phibs: I have had some problems with log files on gluster volumes that receives lots of hits (asynchronous, simultaneous)
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23:07 phibs gbox: ah ok... I'm on centos7
23:07 phibs and your scenario sounds a lot like rrd
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