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01:47 Topic for #gluster is now Gluster Community - http://gluster.org | Documentation - https://gluster.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ | Patches - http://review.gluster.org/ | Developers go to #gluster-dev | Channel Logs - https://botbot.me/freenode/gluster/ & http://irclog.perlgeek.de/gluster/
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11:43 Saravanakmr #REMINDER: Gluster Community Bug Triage meeting at 12:00 UTC ( start ~in 18 minutes)
11:45 Saravanakmr #REMINDER: in #gluster-meeting
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18:24 tom[] i read in http://people.canonical.com/~jhunt/syst​emd/packages-to-convert/2016-06-14.txt that
18:24 tom[] vivid universe package universe/admin/glusterfs-client requires systemd migration (sysv=False, upstart=True, systemd=False)
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18:24 tom[] is this any kinda reason to delay upgrading to ubuntu 16.04?
18:25 JoeJulian I doubt it. I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. We've already done systemd integration.
18:26 tom[] maybe it means that the packages from canonical don't yet use your latest for their client package
18:27 tom[] but i'm just guessing
18:27 JoeJulian That would be my guess as well.
18:27 JoeJulian Do we have vivid in the ,,(ppa)?
18:27 glusterbot The official glusterfs packages for Ubuntu are available here: 3.5: http://goo.gl/6HBwKh 3.6: http://goo.gl/XyYImN 3.7: https://goo.gl/aAJEN5 -- See more PPAs for QEMU with GlusterFS support, and GlusterFS QA releases at https://launchpad.net/~gluster -- contact semiosis with feedback
18:27 tom[] hmm. i have an idea
18:28 JoeJulian Hmm, nope, no 'v'.
18:28 JoeJulian 'w' and 'x' though.
18:37 tom[] i don't think glusterfs has a client service in ubuntu 16.04
18:37 tom[] just a server service and a workaround thing to "Block the mounting event for glusterfs filesystems until the network interfaces are running"
18:42 JoeJulian I'm sure we could add it to our ppa.
18:42 JoeJulian Heck, I could add it. I just have to figure out how to do that... :D
18:43 JoeJulian kkeithley: can you add that quicker than I can figure it out?
18:43 tom[] what would such a service be ueful for?
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18:43 tom[] useful
18:44 JoeJulian The ppa is our official upstream releases.
18:45 kkeithley I''m not sure what it is you're asking for? An init.d or systemd service that waits?  I thought our existing service files already waited for the network to be up.
18:46 JoeJulian No, I'm just asking about a vivid release (16.04)
18:49 kkeithley wasn't vivid EOL as soon as xenial was GA?  IIRC I tried to build vivid packages and the ppa rejected them.
18:49 kkeithley we had a few sets of packages for vivid while it was live...
18:55 kkeithley Isn't 16.04 xenial?  vivid was 15.10
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18:56 kkeithley oh, nm  vivid is 15.04, wily is 15.10, xenial is 16.04.
18:58 kkeithley I could not build 3.7.11 on vivid, it is EOL.   E.g. we built 3.7.11 on trusty, wily, xenial.  We will build 3.8.0 on the same.
18:58 kkeithley all in the PPA
18:59 kkeithley I sent email to gluster and gluster-dev mailing lists a while back outlining the linux distributions we're building for.
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19:02 tom[] i've been trying out the packages from canonical for xenial 16.04 and it seems to have what i need
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19:02 kkeithley which version is that?
19:03 kkeithley which version do they have?
19:03 tom[] glusterfs 3.7.6 built on Dec 25 2015 20:50:44
19:03 kkeithley mkay
19:04 JoeJulian tom[]: I wouldn't use that. 3.7.11 has a bunch of memory leaks fixed.
19:05 tom[] interesting
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19:06 JoeJulian And sorry for the version confusion. I don't use ubuntu and the statement, "vivid universe package universe/admin/glusterfs-client requires systemd migration (sysv=False, upstart=True, systemd=False)" made me thing that was relevant.
19:06 JoeJulian s/thing/think/
19:06 glusterbot What JoeJulian meant to say was: And sorry for the version confusion. I don't use ubuntu and the statement, "vivid universe package universe/admin/glusterfs-client requires systemd migration (sysv=False, upstart=True, systemd=False)" made me think that was relevant.
19:06 tom[] i started it by confusing 15 and 16
19:07 tom[] i was reading this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
19:07 glusterbot Title: SystemdForUpstartUsers - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
19:07 tom[] which is from the 15 days
19:07 kkeithley yeah, I'd use 3.7.11 from the PPA
19:07 tom[] good to know
19:07 tom[] i will
19:08 * PatNarciso sees the words 'memory leaks'
19:09 tom[] i'm currently planning server upgrades. it's a cluster of 3 using gluster for replication. i'm trying to decide a number of things. e.g. if i'm going to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04.
19:09 tom[] it's a bit new
19:09 * PatNarciso rushed to see gluster --version.  and relaxes with the results.
19:10 JoeJulian Upstart = 💩, systemd is all kinds of goodness though.
19:10 tom[] best thing about 16.04 is death of upstart
19:10 PatNarciso agreed.
19:10 tom[] and how to upgrade gluster. can i add three 3.7.11 nodes to the old 3.4 cluster and then remove the old ones? seems adventurours
19:11 JoeJulian I would test it, but in theory that should work.
19:12 JoeJulian Actually, I would upgrade the 3.4 cluster, add the new servers, then remove the old.
19:12 tom[] rolling upgrade?
19:12 tom[] (i do not have quotas)
19:12 JoeJulian That's what *I* would do. ymmv
19:13 tom[] why would you prefer that route? it involves more work. what's the benefit?
19:14 JoeJulian known stability
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19:37 PatNarciso Maybe a crazy idea - are there any write-ups/how-to's for an S3 backed brick? (not EBS).
19:43 JoeJulian PatNarciso: I don't think there's any S3-based fuse filesystems that support extended attributes.
19:47 PatNarciso for some reason I thought s3fs had or was working on it... I'll have to revisit this.
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19:47 ale__236 Hi to all
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19:52 GandalfCorvotemp Hi
19:52 glusterbot GandalfCorvotemp: Despite the fact that friendly greetings are nice, please ask your question. Carefully identify your problem in such a way that when a volunteer has a few minutes, they can offer you a potential solution. These are volunteers, so be patient. Answers may come in a few minutes, or may take hours. If you're still in the channel, someone will eventually offer an answer.
19:54 JoeJulian PatNarciso: If you really wanna get in to that, create an s3 translator in that sits in place of the posix translator.
19:54 JoeJulian Could probably borrow a lot of code from the s3fs project.
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20:27 ketan Has anyone had experience loosing gluster(3.711) volume on VM reboot in public cloud?
20:27 JoeJulian My volumes are always tight.
20:28 ketan I should add more info; the glusterfs is running through docker container in kubernetes cluster
20:32 JoeJulian I'm not sure there's enough detail to identify what you're experiencing.
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20:33 hagarth ketan: /var/lib/glusterd should be persistent across reboots
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20:37 ketan I deploy containerized-docker glusterfs on VMs in public cloud.  create a gluster volume with 4 replicas; write some files etc. and all is ok.  Now I reboot all VMs and expected that the volume previously created will be there.   The gluster daemons start(in containers), however the volume is lost
20:38 ketan 'gluster volume info'  says no volume exist
20:39 ketan I am using gluster/gluster-centos docker images
20:44 JoeJulian Sounds like a docker thing.
20:44 hagarth ketan: you would need to make /var/lib/glusterd persistent .. probably bind mount a directory from the host on to /var/lib/glusterd for the container?
20:46 JoeJulian Heh, my take on containers at this point (where is cgroups 2?): https://twitter.com/JoeCyberG​uru/status/728733009067679744
20:50 ketan Thanks JoeJolian and hagarth;  I will try the suggested approach
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