Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #inline, 2014-11-16

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00:00 davido__ I know that when I removed NAME => from FastSieve.pm the .so reverted to being FastSieve/Inline.so, but the functions still weren't being found, so the "can" test was still failing.
00:01 ingy I guess we need to dive into it
00:01 ingy but I'm a little groggy
00:01 ingy (from bike)
00:01 davido__ Ok, want to try later tonight, or tomorrow? I have all day tomorrow if you want, or tonight after we eat.
01:11 GitHub53 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet deleted master at ef93ef6: http://git.io/H6C7Sw
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01:33 GitHub111 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet created master (+1 new commit): http://git.io/9Hq_sg
01:33 GitHub111 acme-math-xs-pm/master f9fef91 Ingy döt Net: Remake master as a top level pointer branch.
01:34 ingy davido__: you should reclone acme-math-xs-pm
01:34 ingy I rearranged the branching
01:36 ingy davido__: also I'm trying to think of a decent way to not need ::Inline to be committed
01:41 ingy l
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02:23 GitHub167 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet created zild (+1 new commit): http://git.io/rUKGpQ
02:23 GitHub167 acme-math-xs-pm/zild 76a0dae Ingy döt Net: Start a Zilla::Dist branch
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02:25 travis-ci ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm#1 (zild - 76a0dae : Ingy döt Net): The build passed.
02:25 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm/commit/76a0dae63804
02:25 travis-ci Build details : http://travis-ci.org/ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm/builds/41130722
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02:26 GitHub125 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to zild: http://git.io/PkM9cA
02:26 GitHub125 acme-math-xs-pm/zild 90f469a Ingy döt Net: Add the Alt module
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02:59 GitHub190 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/qdrSzg
02:59 GitHub190 acme-math-xs-pm/master 90160c0 Ingy döt Net: Change About to About.pod
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03:00 GitHub50 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/iTuICg
03:00 GitHub50 acme-math-xs-pm/master d244627 Ingy döt Net: Add heading
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03:17 GitHub103 [inline-cog] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to cog: http://git.io/3hT9Sg
03:17 GitHub103 inline-cog/cog cd4e7b2 Ingy döt Net: Add a week #4 report
03:17 ingy davido__: can you review https://github.com/ingydotnet/inline-cog/blob/cog/node/mh4x.cog ?
03:18 ingy I'll get it into the blog later tonight
03:18 ingy also need to do a few things that I said we did in there :D
03:18 ingy ok. bbl
03:34 davido__ ingy: Line 25 of mh4x.cog: s/new/knew/
03:43 davido__ nm, I've taken the liberty.
03:43 GitHub58 [inline-cog] daoswald pushed 1 new commit to cog: http://git.io/jIQChA
03:43 GitHub58 inline-cog/cog c1d9c74 David Oswald: Minor typo-fix and rewording of week 4 cog.
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06:37 davido_laptop here.
06:40 ingy hi davido_laptop
06:40 davido_laptop :)
06:49 ingy davido_laptop: halping a guy on #git-commands real quick
06:56 GitHub167 [inline-cog] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: http://git.io/xTEdlQ
06:56 GitHub167 inline-cog/gh-pages 96803d4 Ingy döt Net: Report for week 4
06:57 GitHub100 [inline-cog] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to build: http://git.io/MnKYzg
06:57 GitHub100 inline-cog/build 70ab4b1 Ingy döt Net: new post
06:58 GitHub7 [inline-cog] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: http://git.io/oJyd6Q
06:58 GitHub7 inline-cog/gh-pages 9755203 Ingy döt Net: these should not have been commited
06:58 ingy davido_laptop: I pushed up the report #4
06:58 ingy can you tell gabor?
06:59 davido_laptop Yeah, I'll send him a message.
07:00 davido_laptop What's the permaurl?
07:00 ingy I need to get ZD sorted and rework the Acme
07:00 ingy sec
07:01 ingy http://inline.ouistreet.com/node/mh4x.html
07:02 davido_laptop k, emailing him now.
07:08 davido_laptop sent.
07:10 GitHub190 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/fuXxEA
07:10 GitHub190 inline-module-pm/master 4d4b285 Ingy döt Net: CPAN Release 0.12...
07:10 ingy ok
07:10 GitHub9 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet tagged 0.12 at master: http://git.io/1IUHFw
07:10 ingy let's sync up tomorrow
07:11 ingy I'm getting sleepy
07:11 davido_laptop Sure, that's fine.
07:12 davido_laptop I seem to frequenly find that the ReadMe.pod is a reason for not being able to cleanly git rebase
07:12 davido_laptop (in inline-module-pm)
07:12 ingy weird
07:13 davido_laptop Solution is always just to check out the file again from HEAD, and then rebase, but I guess thats why generated files are sometimes problematic in repos.
07:13 davido_laptop make update, i think is responsible.
07:13 davido_laptop Oh, it's the swim version.
07:13 davido_laptop i just need to upgrade swim.
07:13 davido_laptop then it will stop happening.
07:13 davido_laptop it's because the swim version number is reported.
07:13 travis-ci ingydotnet/inline-module-pm#10 (master - 4d4b285 : Ingy döt Net): The build has errored.
07:13 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/ingydotnet/inline-module-pm/compare/ef1e49e89cd1...4d4b285fff86
07:13 travis-ci Build details : http://travis-ci.org/ingydotnet/inline-module-pm/builds/41140494
07:15 davido_laptop Just ping me one way or the other tomorrow after you've recovered from your ride.  We'll get a few kinks worked out. :)
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16:33 GitHub4 [inline-c-pm] mohawk2 closed issue #30: Why does Inline::C require an upgrade to ExtUtils::MakeMaker? http://git.io/wt3mow
16:33 GitHub114 [inline-c-pm] mohawk2 comment on issue #30: Inline::C had a faintly ugly partial workaround for EUMM 6.98's failure to handle working in places-with-spaces (which Windows users often have no control over - temp directories can live under `"C:\Documents and Settings"`). Now EUMM 7.0 deals with the issue correctly, it is clearly pointless to knowingly fail to support some users' situations, hence the commit correctly identified by @Leont.... h
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17:02 GitHub186 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to zild: http://git.io/GDyJAQ
17:02 GitHub186 acme-math-xs-pm/zild 709d786 Ingy döt Net: CPAN Release 0.0.1...
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17:02 GitHub8 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet tagged dzil-0.0.1 at v0.0.1: http://git.io/s4irMA
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17:02 GitHub115 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet tagged xs-0.0.1 at 0.0.1: http://git.io/T3JgJg
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17:02 GitHub132 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet deleted 0.0.1 at f05a5b8: http://git.io/KVF06w
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17:03 GitHub195 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet tagged 0.0.1 at zild: http://git.io/ANEx8Q
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17:04 GitHub92 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet deleted 0.0.1 at 709d786: http://git.io/vKLLiw
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17:04 GitHub92 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet deleted 0.0.2 at 1ee8ff6: http://git.io/rrVTDg
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17:05 GitHub119 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet deleted 0.0.4 at d6ea821: http://git.io/r_PfQw
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17:05 GitHub190 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet deleted 0.0.3 at bf9f3df: http://git.io/5zxa4w
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17:05 GitHub155 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet deleted 0.0.5 at 5bc7d55: http://git.io/it-e-Q
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17:05 GitHub106 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet deleted 0.0.6 at 4e13173: http://git.io/vHeqhA
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17:10 travis-ci ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm#7 (dzil-0.0.1 - 0bcc842 : Ingy döt Net): The build has errored.
17:10 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm/compare/dzil-0.0.1
17:10 travis-ci Build details : http://travis-ci.org/ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm/builds/41168236
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21:46 ingy davido__: I'm back and settled
21:46 ingy although I might try to get a small nap in
21:47 travis-ci ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm#7 (dzil-0.0.1 - 0bcc842 : Ingy döt Net): The build passed.
21:47 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm/compare/dzil-0.0.1
21:47 travis-ci Build details : http://travis-ci.org/ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm/builds/41168236
21:48 ingy the travis failure above was just a travis hiccup
21:48 ingy I re-ran the failed test and it passed
21:53 ingy davido__: I'm going to code review Inline::Module, Acme::Math::XS, Dist::Zilla::Plugin::InlineModule, and Zilla::Dist and make issues for everything I can find
21:55 ingy also, I'll give commit to anyone who wants it. ether, leont, daoswald for starters
21:56 ether I'll send you some PRs for cleaning up the dzil plugin
21:57 ether and *tests* :D
21:59 GitHub120 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet opened issue #5: distdir fixup needs to update MANIFEST http://git.io/RmxJOg
22:01 ingy ether: you are AWESOME
22:02 ether lol, I haven't done it yet
22:02 ether talk is cheap
22:03 ingy ether: look at https://github.com/ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm/blob/dzil/dist.ini#L8-11
22:04 ingy I want that to go away
22:04 ingy https://github.com/ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm/blob/dzil/dist.ini#L20-21 should imply it
22:05 ingy well I want [@Basic] to replace https://github.com/ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm/blob/dzil/dist.ini#L8-11
22:10 GitHub194 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet comment on issue #2: This was a problem in the tutorial coding. Fixed.
22:10 GitHub76 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet closed issue #2: Inline/Module.pod link to Inline/Module/Tutorial.pod doesn't work. http://git.io/fWCyWg
22:13 GitHub132 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet comment on issue #3: This was fixed by fix for #2.
22:13 GitHub34 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet closed issue #3: search.cpan.org vs metacpan.org produce different search results. http://git.io/P1zkbQ
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22:17 davido_laptop Here.
22:22 ether ingy: I don't understand. you're doing something that's not basic, so modifying the @Basic bundle is reasonable
22:22 ether the alternative is not using @Basic at all and listing all plugins explicitly
22:23 ether I think what you *want* to say is "I would rather add on to an existing Makefile.PL rather than specifying a plugin that *replaces* MakeMaker"
22:23 ether which _is_ doable
22:24 ether it's not always worth doing though
22:25 ingy hi davido_laptop
22:26 davido_laptop :)
22:27 ingy ether: I don't really care how it works internally. I just want people to be able to add the 2 lines for [InlineModule] to the dist.ini and have the plugin DTRT
22:28 ingy ie https://github.com/ingydotnet/acme-math-xs-pm/blob/dzil/dist.ini#L8-11 looks like I puked in my dist.ini
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22:32 GitHub24 [acme-math-xs-pm] ingydotnet opened issue #1: Add Acme::Math::XS::XS in here as the `xs` branch http://git.io/onN3rg
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22:36 GitHub54 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/NXclSA
22:36 GitHub54 inline-module-pm/master 08a585d Ingy döt Net: CPAN Release 0.13...
22:37 GitHub46 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet tagged 0.13 at master: http://git.io/Arg64A
22:37 GitHub179 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet closed issue #4: Inline::Module::Tutorial discussion of Makefile.PL: Code example is not complete enough. http://git.io/q9BjZw
22:37 GitHub73 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet comment on issue #4: Fix I think. @daoswald, please review.
22:39 davido_laptop Ingy: Now it says "use Inline::Module::MakeMaker" twice.
22:40 davido_laptop First one should be use ExtUtils::MakeMaker
22:40 travis-ci ingydotnet/inline-module-pm#11 (master - 08a585d : Ingy döt Net): The build passed.
22:40 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/ingydotnet/inline-module-pm/compare/4d4b285fff86...08a585d7b673
22:40 travis-ci Build details : http://travis-ci.org/ingydotnet/inline-module-pm/builds/41192834
22:41 ingy davido_laptop: where are you looking?
22:42 davido_laptop The swim is ok, the pod isn't.  I probably just need to make it
22:42 ingy which pod?
22:42 davido_laptop Inline::MakeMaker::POD
22:42 davido_laptop sorry
22:42 ingy oh
22:42 davido_laptop Inline::Module::Tutoria
22:42 davido_laptop tutorial
22:43 ingy there is no pod for that
22:43 davido_laptop No, Inline::Module::Tutorial
22:43 ingy url please
22:43 davido_laptop sec.
22:46 davido_laptop :) nm :(
22:46 davido_laptop lol
22:46 ingy :)
22:46 davido_laptop I should give M::P::FS another go.
22:47 ingy cool. I nap.
22:47 ingy bbiab
22:51 ether ingy: ok, I understand what you're after; that's definitely possible.
23:42 ingy ether++ # thanks for grokking it

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