Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #inline, 2014-11-18

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00:48 GitHub140 [acme-math-xs-pm] jberger comment on issue #2: Until there is a viable alternative that is not using make (for us mortals) I would encourage mb support.  http://git.io/nVYKHA
00:52 GitHub76 [acme-math-xs-pm] Leont comment on issue #2: > MB use should be actively discouraged.... http://git.io/u5g3vw
01:03 GitHub190 [acme-math-xs-pm] mohawk2 comment on issue #2: @Leont, can you give an idea of the "unusual" things MB enables that EUMM can't handle? http://git.io/xOLfsw
01:18 GitHub167 [acme-math-xs-pm] Leont comment on issue #2: > @Leont, can you give an idea of the "unusual" things MB enables that EUMM can't handle?... http://git.io/ETDWhw
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15:15 vicash mohawk: is there an IRC for Alien::Base ?
15:16 vicash or a mailing list ?
15:18 leont There is #alien, and otherwise #toolchain
15:23 vicash thanks leont
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15:49 davido_lt here
15:54 davido_lt Why was Makefile removed from ingydotnet/inline-pm in 31ef00fed21863b984d8d31437f7d0429aded29a ?
15:56 davido_lt oh, got it "Remove generated Makefile" :)
16:17 ingy :)
16:18 ingy davido_lt: I changed Zilla:Dist to use `zild make …`
16:18 ingy not sure what took me so long to think of it
16:19 davido_lt Yeah, I figured it out. :)
16:19 davido_lt zild make install creates a tree under the repo directory, which has a Makefile.PL that can be used to generate a makefile to actually install it.
16:20 davido_lt There is an error message upon running zild install
16:20 ingy there should be
16:21 ingy did you mean `zild make install` ?
16:21 davido_lt zild makefile && make install
16:22 ingy what about it?
16:22 davido_lt Makefile:103: recipe for target 'install' failed
16:22 davido_lt make: *** [install] Error 2
16:23 ingy is this in inline-module-pm?
16:23 davido_lt sorry, no, i'm talking about inline-pm
16:23 ingy hi SysPete
16:23 davido_lt However, it does create ./Inline-0.77/ ...., and from there I can do the Perlish mantra.
16:23 ingy hmm
16:24 ingy sec
16:24 SysPete hi ingy
16:24 ingy :)
16:25 ingy davido_lt: are you up to date on ZD?
16:26 davido_lt 0.0.172 ?
16:26 * ingy adds a `zild -v` command
16:26 ingy nod
16:26 ingy I get no error
16:26 davido_lt (yeah, just discovered no zild -v, used perl -MZilla::Dist -E 'say Zilla::Dist->VERSION'
16:26 davido_lt hm, let me clean and start fresh
16:27 ingy I used perl -MZilla::Dist\ 9
16:27 ingy :D
16:27 ingy a favorite old perl trick
16:28 davido_lt Yeah, still same error.
16:28 ingy which perl
16:28 davido_lt make clean && zild makefile && make test && make install results in the error
16:28 davido_lt 5.20.0
16:28 ingy as in… run: which perl
16:29 davido_lt /home/davido/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.20.0/bin/perl
16:30 davido_lt It leaves me with the Inline-0.77/ directory, and I can install from there.
16:31 ingy well you are doing it wrong anyway :)
16:31 ingy git clean -dxf; zild make install
16:31 ingy I'm going to get rid of `zild makefile`
16:33 davido_lt and that is fine. :)
16:33 ingy ok
16:38 davido_lt I'll be back at 9am PST
16:53 ingy davido_lt: install new zilla-dist-pm
17:02 davido_lt done
17:06 davido_lt ok, all current.
17:06 ingy I'll fire up the pairup
17:11 ingy firing up…
17:11 davido_lt k
17:11 ingy I want to make the Module::{Install,Build} plugins and Alt-Acme versions
17:12 davido_lt Ok.
17:12 ingy and create a github issues for everything remaining
17:12 ingy tha should be our goal today
17:12 davido_lt I'm not sure what issue to create with respect to the I::CPP problem.
17:13 ingy let's put that off for now
17:13 davido_lt Ok, we do have to look at it eventually though.
17:13 ingy I just want to get all the basics done
17:13 ingy yes we do
17:13 davido_lt i understand, that's fine :)
17:13 ingy and we need to convert some more hardcore XS modules
17:14 davido_lt working out the softcore ones will help us fix issues before we move into the complexity of the hardcore ones.
17:14 davido_lt :)
17:15 davido_lt but i'm not disagreeing. :)
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17:32 davido_lt can i join now?
17:32 d^i davido__: o/
17:33 d^i I dunno. *can* you? ;)
17:34 davido_lt i'm in.
17:44 davido_lt hm
17:44 davido_lt lol.
17:51 GitHub21 [acme-math-xs-xs-pm] ingydotnet pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/biIlOA
17:51 GitHub21 acme-math-xs-xs-pm/master a74b74c Ingy döt Net: 0.0.3
17:51 davido_lt that was a pain
17:53 ingy yeah
17:53 ingy ok what next?
17:53 ingy Let's do MI
17:53 davido_lt Yeah, good.
17:54 ingy are you typing in there?
17:54 davido_lt no
17:54 ingy or a stuck key?
17:54 davido_lt that's not me.
17:55 ingy probably me
17:55 ingy arrow keys I think
17:55 ingy brb
17:56 davido_lt could have been my trackpad's scroll function :/
18:03 ingy back
18:03 davido_lt k
18:11 davido_lt gloom?
18:12 davido_lt great little oo module
18:12 ingy :)
18:12 davido_lt need 15m.
18:12 ingy ok
18:34 davido_lt k
18:35 ingy davido_lt: can you go a bit wider?
18:35 davido_lt yeah
18:35 davido_lt That's about it.
18:36 d^i fine
18:43 ingy looks ok
18:43 davido_lt yes
18:46 davido_lt What uses Filter::Util::Call?
18:48 ingy Spiffy
18:48 ingy but we are just using this module as a template
18:48 davido_lt ok
18:50 davido_lt irc could be narrower
18:50 ingy don't mess with anything! :)
18:51 davido_lt haha
18:51 ingy I need left 2 panes 80 wide
18:53 davido_lt change the package name.
18:57 ingy forgot we were on a orphan branch
18:57 davido_lt eek.
18:58 ingy I was very confused for a bit
18:58 davido_lt Daniel Boon was never lost, only a bit bewildered for a few days at a time.
18:58 ingy :P
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19:04 GitHub78 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet opened issue #6: ILSM keyword should be lowercased. http://git.io/wCqqiA
19:05 GitHub62 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet opened issue #7: Inline::Module::MakeMaker should be merged into Inline::Module. http://git.io/IZUk9g
19:17 ingy brb
19:17 davido_lt ok.
19:31 ingy back
19:31 ingy I'll keep hacking on this
19:39 GitHub77 [inline-module-pm] ingydotnet opened issue #8: Make Inline::Module::MakeMaker be more OO http://git.io/cR5ugg
19:41 davido_lt here
19:44 davido_lt Maybe perl-inline-module generate could accept "eumm", etc. as an argument.
19:45 ingy ?
19:45 davido_lt just thinking... probably not.
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19:55 ingy davido_lt: I like where this is going
19:55 ingy but I have to step away for 4 hours
19:55 ingy :)
19:55 davido_lt Ok, no problem.  See you at 5:00pm MST / 4:00pm PST
19:55 ingy \o/
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22:50 davido_lt here
23:01 davido_lt hey
23:20 d^i Hi davido_lt, talking to your friend :)
23:20 d^i (Scott)
23:20 davido_lt hey, cool.
23:43 GitHub14 [inline-module-pm] Leont comment on issue #8: If it's a proper MakeMaker extension, you don't need to do anything other than loading it. http://git.io/ANS2zQ
23:47 GitHub163 [inline-module-pm] Leont comment on issue #7: Why should it? That doesn't make particular sense to me TBH. http://git.io/vcMk2A

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