Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #inline, 2015-01-15

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03:00 mohawk davido__, any strong views on EUCG staying with MB vs changing it to EUMM?
03:09 ingy mohawk: seems better to switch it
03:09 ingy it's just pure perl, yeah?
03:09 mohawk that was my thinking too
03:09 mohawk yes
03:10 ingy I've switched all my M:I dists to ZD (== DZ == EUMM)
03:11 ingy I'm not sure M:I has a purpose other than not being ginormous as dzil
03:14 ingy I really think dzil is way overdone, and I sympathize with the people who won't use it because it wastes their time installing. But then again it is serving a purpose until something better comes along.
03:14 ingy </rant>
03:14 ingy back to work…
03:15 ingy mohawk: in other news I found out that my bash project 'git-hub' works perfect under cygwin
03:16 ingy and I found out from Mithaldu that cmd can use cygwin commands
03:17 ingy so there's a possibility that bash stuff can run on win32, and that would make me very happy.
03:17 mohawk ha ha, neat
03:17 ingy just conjecture at this point, but worth following up on
03:20 mohawk so, now i have control over EUCG
03:21 mohawk WORLD DOMINATION AWAITS
03:26 ingy good luck with that
03:27 mohawk ha ha
03:37 davido__ mohawk: I'd switch it to eumm.
03:37 mohawk great
03:38 mohawk davido__, i'm getting a failing test on I::CPP
03:38 mohawk t/classes/04invoke_from_non_main.t
03:38 mohawk i just tried switching from is ref($f), 'MyFuu', 'Our "Fuu" is a "MyFuu"';
03:38 mohawk (fails)
03:38 mohawk to isa_ok $f, 'MyFuu', 'Our "Fuu" is a "MyFuu"';
03:38 mohawk (passes)
03:38 mohawk want me to PR it? do i have push access?
03:39 davido__ mohawk: If you pr it I'll check into it in the morning.  I think some of those tests were too strict; different versions of Perl respond slightly differently, and they're not incorrect.
03:39 mohawk ok
03:40 davido__ I could give you repo privs if you want though.
03:40 mohawk davido__, did you ever look at ExtUtils::XSpp ?
03:40 mohawk davido__, if you could, that might be useful in extremis
03:40 davido__ I didn't.
03:41 davido__ mohawk : You do have collaborator privs on github for Inline::CPP.
03:42 davido__ So if you were to put something up there I can release it.
03:42 davido__ I could also pester nielw to give you pause permissions, but I try to bother him as infrequently as possible, as it seems he's kind of moved on with life.
03:43 mohawk thanks!
03:44 mohawk he was great about giving me perms on I::Struct
03:44 mohawk still, up to you
03:44 mohawk i do think having two active people with access is a better bet than just one, though
03:44 davido__ I have no problem with it.  I'll send him an email in the morning.
03:45 mohawk nice
03:45 mohawk if he's not interested anymore, it might be an idea to get him to give you full maintainer status so you could do that stuff yourself
03:46 davido__ I'll ask.  He would probably be fine with it.  Does PAUSE allow two people to have full ownership?
03:46 mohawk don't know
03:47 mohawk checking...
03:47 mohawk apparently it doesn't
03:48 mohawk i'd suggest the right thing for him to do is give full ownership to you, and making him co-maint
03:48 davido__ yeah, i was afraid of that.  Nevertheless, he would still probably be ok with it.
03:48 davido__ Yeah, that's probably the right solution.  He hasn't touched it in 14 years really.
03:49 davido__ I should be more active, but at least I've got a pulse. ;)
03:50 mohawk he should probably do the same switcheroo for I::Struct and me, if you could mention that too
03:50 mohawk make it easy for him to do in a oner
03:50 davido__ Ok, I'll do that.
03:50 davido__ The worst is when people switch some of the namespace but not all of it.
03:51 mohawk ..and all his other Inline modules, holy cow
03:51 mohawk https://pause.perl.org/pause/authenquery?pause99_peek_perms_by=a&amp;pause99_peek_perms_query=NEILW&amp;pause99_peek_perms_sub=Submit
03:51 mohawk he might as well kick over to you with I::CPP, and me with the others
03:51 mohawk then it's just all sorted
03:52 davido__ hm, i didn't realize he was the guy who did ruby.
03:53 mohawk inorite
03:53 mohawk if you're at all interested, checkout the new https://metacpan.org/release/Archive-Unzip-Burst
03:54 mohawk uses the new XSMULTI
03:55 davido__ oh, that's cool.  First dist to use it?
03:57 GitHub74 [Inline-CPP] mohawk2 opened pull request #26: Tidyups (master...tidyups) http://git.io/DkIUaw
03:58 mohawk first one i've released to CPAN, i think
03:58 davido__ cool.
03:58 mohawk i converted over Gimp-Perl first
03:59 davido__ why the PR? You have privs on Inline::CPP's repo.
03:59 mohawk it's up on the GNOME repo, but not finished all the changes i want to make
03:59 mohawk oh, shall i just push then?
03:59 davido__ sure.  Is it in a branch, or master?
03:59 mohawk it'll be on master in a sec
04:00 mohawk done
04:00 GitHub166 [Inline-CPP] mohawk2 closed pull request #26: Tidyups (master...tidyups) http://git.io/DkIUaw
04:00 GitHub30 [Inline-CPP] mohawk2 pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/ocB1jg
04:00 GitHub30 Inline-CPP/master 97b7301 Ed J: .gitignore new EUMM cache dir
04:00 GitHub30 Inline-CPP/master cf01ee3 Ed J: Be more idiomatic in checking class of object
04:00 davido__ Ok.  Assuming it passes tests for me I'll get it released tomorrow.
04:01 mohawk that's interesting, i didn't manually close that PR
04:02 davido__ I did a lot of tidyups a few years ago, but it was really just the tip of the iceburg.
04:02 mohawk ha ha
04:02 davido__ nielw had some funky concepts. ;)
04:03 davido__ if you ever feel like it, you might look at the venerable "multidimensional member arrays" bug.
04:03 davido__ I've never found a nice way to fix it.
04:04 davido__ Ok, I'm going to run for now...
04:04 GitHub42 [Inline-CPP] mohawk2 force-pushed gh-pages from 9812352 to db59658: http://git.io/GRMLDg
04:04 GitHub42 Inline-CPP/gh-pages db59658 David Oswald: Create gh-pages branch via GitHub
04:06 GitHub92 [Inline-CPP] mohawk2 merged master into using: http://git.io/PC-QKg
04:06 GitHub33 [Inline-CPP] mohawk2 deleted using at cf01ee3: http://git.io/cqeW5A
04:07 mohawk multidimensional whatnow?
04:07 mohawk doh!
04:08 mohawk davido__, i'll be interested to look at that :-)
04:09 davido__ mohawk : There's a test for it under t/grammar/XXmultidimensional.t or something like that.
04:09 davido__ maybe memberarrays.t
04:10 GitHub73 [Inline-CPP] mohawk2 force-pushed pegex from 221096e to f209a3c: http://git.io/A5eWTg
04:10 GitHub73 Inline-CPP/pegex e56e106 Ingy döt Net: Add a test to compare pegex to prd
04:10 GitHub73 Inline-CPP/pegex fbd4360 Ingy döt Net: Refactor pegex stuff into the proper place
04:10 GitHub73 Inline-CPP/pegex 133c81e David Oswald: add grammar test for function declaration.
04:10 mohawk davido__, on i-cpp?
04:11 davido__ yes
04:22 mohawk t/grammar/19multidimarray.t
04:33 GitHub47 [Inline-CPP] mohawk2 pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/H4Nu1Q
04:33 GitHub47 Inline-CPP/master d3c9171 Ed J: Get more info out of eval failure
17:24 mohawk davido__, could we have a new release of ICPP?

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