Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #linuxvillage, 2013-04-19

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00:00 pdurbin_m yeah, I agree
00:00 melodie of course I have no idea what it could take as far as coding is concerned, but as he is welcoming new ideas, well, this is the idea I wanted to submit.
00:01 melodie already 2 am here...
00:01 melodie time runs
00:02 melodie I noticed at 0:27 that the works were du the day before at -7 from UTC, fortunately it was a soft deadline and not the hard one. ^^
00:02 melodie were due*
00:02 melodie XD
00:05 melodie pdurbin at what moment will you have a comfortable keyboard for communication purpose ?
00:14 melodie pdurbin I just listened to one of the podcasts and didn't really get into it, couldn't listen it seriously...
00:19 pdurbin melodie: uh oh. let's find you a podcast you like. there are hundreds of them. maybe thousands
00:21 melodie pdurbin not needed. :)
00:22 melodie what about discussing the creation of a new IRC chan which will be dedicated to people upstream and downstream the OpenCourseWare things ?
00:23 melodie (I would like the discussion to stay focused on this idea, because IRC is flexible, can be real time and can also be asynchronous, which can fullfill many needs)
00:23 pdurbin sure, I'm fine with a new channel. I'm just saying that I take in a lot of information in audio format, as a podcast. I don't have time to watch lectures, usually
00:24 pdurbin sometimes I convert lectures or talks from video (mp4) to audio (mp3) so I can listen to them
00:24 melodie I usually don't create communities just for my own needs, but notice that my own needs often is the same as many other's needs.
00:25 pdurbin sure. me too
00:25 melodie so the ones which don't fit with other needs would not work, the ones fitting other's needs would work
00:25 melodie pdurbin do you want to create a chan such as that one ?
00:26 melodie you know how to do that...
00:26 melodie :)
00:27 pdurbin :)
00:27 melodie and also you have been the first to point me to edx.org, where I found the blog of this teacher, professor Malan, and read about the OpenCourseWare kind of courses
00:27 pdurbin oh, I didn't know he had a blog
00:27 melodie would you agree to create one ?
00:28 pdurbin are you sure you want to call it #opencourseware? maybe we should come up with another name. a unique name
00:28 melodie it might be a blog of the edx.org website, anyhow I have visited much of the edx and of his writings so I might have confused parts of it
00:28 melodie pdurbin do you have another idea ? if so which one ?
00:29 melodie it seemed to me that all these platforms are of potential interest to anyone in the world who wants to study differently, for any reason
00:29 pdurbin hmm. #learnforfree? I dunno. to me the subject is broader than opencourseware
00:29 pdurbin #studydifferent
00:29 melodie and that they all could meat together
00:30 melodie pdurbin why ?
00:30 pdurbin I'm just using your words :)
00:30 melodie free in English can mean no cost, or freedom
00:31 pdurbin #freelearn
00:31 melodie studydifferent does not refer to anything known yet
00:31 melodie #freelearn either
00:31 melodie opencourseware is in Wikipedia and if it does not have a freenode chan yet, it would deserve it
00:32 melodie then once created the leading people from all platforms calling themselves opencoursware could be invited to join and meet there
00:32 pdurbin well, maybe it could be ##opencourseware (double #) since it would be about opencourseware and not be the "official" channel
00:33 melodie is there an official channel, to start with ?
00:33 pdurbin dunno
00:33 melodie let's go have a look ? :)
00:33 melodie you first ?
00:33 melodie :-)
00:34 pdurbin yeah, nothing at #opencourseware
00:34 pdurbin or ##opencourseware
00:34 melodie so ? what are we waiting for ? I helped create a chan dedicated to learning very recently
00:34 pdurbin is it in english?
00:35 melodie pdurbin don't be so shy... you are a great Harvard computer and you should create it. and if you wish I am willing to assist the creation
00:35 pdurbin slystone: you created a channel dedicated to learning too, I thought. or at least a forum?
00:35 melodie the chan I helped creating is in French
00:36 melodie he created #lpic-fr with my contrib
00:36 pdurbin ah
00:36 melodie this is about the linux professional institute certifications and people helping each other to review and progress throught the program
00:37 pdurbin right right
00:37 melodie I will not participate in it much more than that because I find the cs50 course at edx.org and the python course at coursera.org more appealing
00:38 pdurbin sure
00:38 pdurbin the thing about opencourseware for me is... I have no plans to follow any classes right now
00:38 melodie therefore if you are willing to create #opencoursera, you must know that if one day you want to pass it on to someone else, any one among the freenode staff can help you doing so the right way
00:39 pdurbin well, what I'm trying to say is, I'm not sure I'd be the best founder of that channel
00:39 melodie you just need to create it and put a chanserv on it and give some rights to the freenode staff so that any one in need can go there and ask for order to be maintained
00:39 melodie why would you not be a good founder ?
00:40 melodie you know IRC, don't you ?
00:40 pdurbin because I'm not taking any opencourseware classes
00:40 melodie you have advertised for them, this is enough
00:40 pdurbin lol
00:40 melodie you deserve the honor of creating this chan.
00:41 melodie you have also been quoted as a contributor in the cs50 appliance, so that makes you someone special :D
00:41 pdurbin heh
00:43 melodie and you could also think about these hundreds students and teachers who will be delighted to have such a good tool to communicate, this is lots compared to the small task of creating and configuring a chan... isn't it right ?
00:44 melodie I'm not going to stay much longer; shall we talk again about it tomorrow or so ?
00:44 pdurbin I'm not ready to commit to anything right now
00:44 melodie are you lacking time ?
00:45 pdurbin no one in thie channel is yelling as us for talking about opencourseware. I think we can just continue to talk here for now
00:45 pdurbin I am always lacking time
00:45 pdurbin but my kids seem to be settling down
00:45 melodie I have a special formula for earning time
00:45 melodie not sure if that could help you
00:46 pdurbin they say they're scared when I leave their room. so I'm in their room for now
00:46 pdurbin you asked about this laptop's keyboard. it's a little loud ;)
00:46 melodie your children ?
00:47 melodie <pdurbin> they say they're scared when I leave their room. so I'm in their room for now // <melodie> your children ?
00:47 pdurbin kids, children. yes
00:47 melodie ok
00:47 pdurbin they're small. 3 and 6
00:47 melodie don't they have a teddy bear ?
00:47 pdurbin no shit
00:48 pdurbin :)
00:48 melodie :)
00:48 melodie mine is 13 now...
00:48 pdurbin right, you mentioned
00:48 melodie he is my only one and he grabs all my attention since the beginning. even now
00:49 melodie the children are great and terrible at same time
00:49 melodie aren't they ?
00:49 pdurbin My wife and I took our oldest to Barcelona with a couple and their child when the children were 2 years old. We stayed in the same room at the same hotel. I was amazed by how they could almost toss their child into bed and he would be asleep. My kids have never been like that.
00:50 melodie when you are at work, if you can take just a few minutes once a while it would be possible to create a new chan and keep it the requested time, even with a remote login if necessary.
00:51 melodie children ? yes, all parents told me they are all different, no one reacts the same.
00:51 pdurbin "kids are like 49% enormous pain in the ass and 51% the most sublime joy you've ever felt" -- https://twitter.com/codinghor​ror/status/22416656017915904
00:51 melodie :p
00:51 melodie ok
00:52 pdurbin do you want the chan to be logged?
00:52 melodie yes, that would be desirable
00:53 pdurbin I still object to the name #opencourseware somehow
00:53 pdurbin I like making up names... #crimsonfu #sourcefu #spanworm ... :)
00:54 pdurbin no one can say to me, "why are you using our name?"
00:54 melodie ok then what about
00:54 melodie something such as "o-coursewarefu" ?
00:54 pdurbin lol
00:54 pdurbin my three year old is asking me what I'm laughing about
00:55 pdurbin #learnfu?
00:55 melodie nice to see I'm making you laugh
00:55 melodie negotiation continues : #coursewarefu ?
00:56 melodie it has to refer to something already known, if it is intended to reach the people interested to all opencourseware platforms
00:56 pdurbin no it doesn't, two of my channels are doing fine
00:56 pdurbin #spanworm isn't but nevermind about that right now :)
00:57 melodie tell your three years old someone taught you a nice story about the little characters living in the woods ? :)
00:57 melodie two of your chans are doing fine : I will ask something to you
00:58 pdurbin wow, a friend has been emailing me all week about a (somewhat distant) family member who lost both of his legs in the boston marathon bombing. he's going to be interviewed on anderson cooper
00:59 melodie can you create a chan with the name you choose, any, then manage to get many teachers, TA's, and students from edx, coursera, and other open courses online come to that chan to discuss about the courses and about the opportunities related to the courses ?
01:00 melodie pdurbin I still feel most sorry about all violent events happening on this earth, which affect all these innocent people. :-(
01:01 pdurbin melodie: are you on the cs50 mailing list? (I forget). People often post there about new opencourseware-like sites they find
01:01 melodie I am on the list, not been there for long yet
01:02 pdurbin ok. well, if we get this channel going we could annouce it there
01:02 pdurbin announce*
01:02 melodie and in other places too.
01:02 pdurbin sure sure
01:02 melodie in the Wikipedia page, in the coursera forums when I login for the courses and so on....
01:03 melodie may I make the dev you are laugh ?
01:03 pdurbin go ahead
01:03 melodie when I saw there was a first "mini-project" due at the end of the first week "week0" I thought it would be something hard.
01:04 melodie the title was something such as "we want a shrubbery... we do"
01:04 pdurbin :)
01:04 pdurbin ah, python
01:05 melodie and I thought the project would consist in something tough, implying arithmetics and such, maybe make appear objects on the screen, such as little trees, bunch of flowers...
01:05 pdurbin oh, I wonder if I can find this one thing...
01:05 melodie none of this.
01:05 melodie just display the sentence, instead of "Hello, World".
01:06 melodie I thought, how easy !
01:06 melodie XD
01:06 pdurbin :)
01:06 pdurbin ok here it is...
01:06 pdurbin from the same guy who wrote the "when in double, make it public" post
01:06 pdurbin Coding Horror: Maximizing The Value of Your Keystrokes - http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/05/ma​ximizing-the-value-of-your-keystrokes.html
01:07 melodie and I had seen the Monty Pyton a few years ago, with my boyfriend: "we want a shrubbery! we want a shrubbery!... "
01:07 melodie XD
01:07 melodie XD
01:07 pdurbin Python is full of Monty Python jokes
01:07 melodie in French : on veut un jardinet
01:09 pdurbin I was looking earlier for a podcast I found years ago about learning French. Years ago I listened to a tiny bit of it an d thought it was good
01:10 melodie "The next time you find yourself typing more than a few sentences on your keyboard, stop and ask: are you maximizing the value of your keystrokes?"
01:10 melodie nice find
01:10 pdurbin a post from years ago but he linked to it the other day: https://twitter.com/codinghor​ror/status/324256299703480320
01:11 melodie pdurbin if you want to learn some french, all you have to do is organise vacation for all your family in my area
01:11 pdurbin aw, that's sweet of you :)
01:11 pdurbin our neighbors speak french
01:11 melodie first it is a touristic place with lots of cultural and natural great things
01:11 pdurbin both little girls, almost the same age as mine. they love each other. I should send my kids over there more :)
01:12 melodie then it is an area where kind of many English and US people came to and got integrated here: some are even our neighbours
01:12 pdurbin sounds a little like Montreal
01:12 melodie the man is for NY and his wife if from Texas, and they work in the largest town next to here
01:13 melodie so this could be great vacations, for visiting, having fun, having nice places to visit, and learning a bit of the local language all at same time
01:14 pdurbin yeah
01:15 pdurbin we took a different trip to Barcelona, before kids, and our friend from there took us all around, to little villages where people didn't speak english, generally
01:16 melodie :)
01:17 pdurbin hmm, I can't find those pictures but these are from the later trip: https://plus.google.com/photos/109940583​958656614840/albums/5253517968008747745
01:17 melodie we are very close to Barcelona, perhaps 300 kms, or so
01:19 pdurbin I bet your weather is better than ours :)
01:20 melodie last year my son and his best buddy did a full go in the medieval games (meant for children) then finished with a special "diploma" for having fought "bravely": they had so much fun!
01:20 pdurbin nie
01:20 pdurbin nice
01:20 melodie I bet our weather is as good as the one in California ?
01:20 pdurbin and probably less traffic
01:21 melodie there are animations all along the year from spring to autumn
01:21 melodie I have not been in California but believe me, it is crowded in the closest town, at summer time
01:21 melodie but so nice!
01:22 melodie here is a pic: http://www.sushi-ariege.fr/photos/15_201​30108114608_ACTU_Sushi-Mobile-ariege.jpg
01:23 pdurbin very nice
01:24 pdurbin doesn't look crowded ;)
01:24 melodie and several here: http://www.ariegenews.com/news/news_9588_faire-un​-bond-en-1209-c-est-ce-que-propose-l-equipe-de-ma​met-lors-des-medievales-de-mirepoix-les-17-.html
01:24 melodie it's difficult to find the relevant images in google images now
01:24 melodie it used to be easier
01:25 pdurbin bah! my stupid weechat where I can't click long links! grrr! http://irclog.perlgeek.de/cr​imsonfu/2013-04-18#i_6717600
01:25 melodie if you stay a while on this last page you will be able to see different pictures
01:27 pdurbin yeah, they're cycling through
01:27 melodie yes, they are
01:28 melodie http://tinyurl.com/medieval-mirepoix
01:28 melodie this would have been a tiny url to that page :)
01:29 pdurbin :)
01:31 melodie we are in a part of the country which is close to some famous lakes, to mountains and see, as well as very beautiful old stone castels, and much more
01:31 melodie and sea*
01:31 melodie writing too fast :D
01:31 melodie so that will be my last words, before saying : good night !
01:31 pdurbin :)
01:31 pdurbin take care
01:35 melodie thanks :)
05:26 Warnaud trolldi \o/
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09:08 Anoma Bonjour tout le monde
09:09 slystone pdurbin: for Weechat you have a script for long url.
09:12 slystone (urlgrab)
09:13 Warnaud :|
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10:06 pdurbin slystone: yeah, that was suggested to me. thanks
10:08 pdurbin crazy times in boston right. police officer at MIT killed, bomb went off in Watertown, where they're looking for boston marathon bomber suspects: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20​/us/boston-marathon-bombings.html
10:32 slystone pdurbin: well, sorry to hear that!
10:37 pdurbin they stopped all public transportation. harvard (where I work) is closed: http://www.harvard.edu/emergency
10:37 slystone Are you a teacher at Harvard ?
10:38 pdurbin no, a software developer: http://people.iq.harvard.edu/~pdurbin
10:38 slystone Nice! :)
10:42 slystone Well, I've understood only half of what you've written on this page, but it seems interested. ^^
10:44 pdurbin heh. sorry
10:48 slystone Don't be! ;) When I'll be able to write some decent scripts, maybe we'll be able to talk about your job then. ^^'
10:48 slystone Well, gotta go, have a nice day!
10:48 pdurbin you too :)
10:49 slystone Thanx!
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14:52 melodie salut, hello
14:59 pdurbin salut
14:59 melodie bonjour pdurbin, comment vas-tu ?
15:00 melodie (how are you?)
15:00 pdurbin we are under lockdown in boston. not supposed to leave the house until they catch this guy: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/201​3/04/who-is-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-boston/64382/
15:08 H6r6tiqu6 arf :/
15:29 pdurbin arf arf
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16:22 melodie salut coyotus
16:26 coyotus salut melodie
17:49 slystone 'lut coyotus
17:50 slystone coyotus: quand t'as passé le lp1, est-ce qu'il y a des docs en particulier que tu as consulté ?
17:50 coyotus j'ai pas étudié
17:50 coyotus mais si tu utilise linux tout les jours
17:50 coyotus c'est une formalité
17:50 slystone Arf, ok.
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18:06 H6r6tiqu6 ok
18:10 melodie slystone il te manque quoi comme supports pour le cours ?
18:12 slystone melodie: en fait on a fait le tour de la question avec golgoth :)
18:12 slystone Quand j'ai miamé, je modifie le topic.
18:15 melodie ok, et il y aura le résumé ?
18:17 slystone melodie: c'est un résumé en fait, la liste des objectifs à travailler.
18:17 slystone Sinon http://www.fullcirclemag.fr/?post/2012/06/07​/Num%C3%A9ro-sp%C3%A9cial-PYTHON%2C-volume-1 ← ce dont je te parlais pour python.
18:17 slystone Bon je vais miamer. ++
18:23 melodie idem
18:23 melodie slystone non pour python ce cours de 9 semaines me suffira
18:24 melodie je voulais juste savoir si tu as un endroit pour stocker des docs à l'attention de tous
18:24 melodie parce que j'ai ce livre libre très gros avec tout dedans
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19:57 slystone melodie: pas encore. :/
19:58 melodie ok
20:08 slystone Je procrastine sans arrêt certaines choses, c'est maladif. ><
20:13 H6r6tiqu6 slystone: je te plussoierais demain...
20:14 slystone H6r6tiqu6: arf arf
20:14 H6r6tiqu6 bon, je vais réviser
20:14 H6r6tiqu6 good night, libristes
20:15 slystone H6r6tiqu6: mais brûlez-là puis pendez-là ! (ou inversement)
20:15 slystone Ma coloc vient d'allumer la télé pour se mettre devant TF1. ><
20:15 H6r6tiqu6 RHAAAAARGH
20:16 H6r6tiqu6 prend ton casque et lance clementine
20:16 slystone Valà ! ><
20:16 H6r6tiqu6 y'a un bruit de pluie qu'on peut activer en background sonor
20:16 H6r6tiqu6 +e
20:16 slystone Je vais chercher refuge dans ma chambre oui.
20:16 H6r6tiqu6 sur ce, à plus
20:16 slystone Yep !
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