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IRC log for #linuxvillage, 2013-06-08

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00:56 Biaise lu :)
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11:42 OnlyHuman hi :)
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16:46 melodie salut
16:54 pdurbin salut
16:57 pdurbin I went to #unilang but it was all German
16:58 melodie if you start talking in English some people will answer you
16:59 melodie salut pdurbin :)
16:59 pdurbin oh
16:59 pdurbin I didn't want to disturb the Germans
17:04 melodie not even a little "hi" ? :)
17:14 pdurbin I couldn't get a word in edgewise
17:14 pdurbin melodie: problems with linuxvillage hosting? http://irclog.greptilian.c​om/wonderstudy/2013-06-08
17:17 melodie yes, some problems do occur
17:20 melodie pdurbin The forum is definitely having some problems - http://linuxvillage.net/index.php/topic,367.0.html
17:26 melodie pdurbin what would you think about a skin such as this one: http://citrotux.org for our website http://linuxvillage.org ?
17:35 pdurbin looks good
17:35 pdurbin I'm sorry to hear about the database and spam problems :(
17:38 melodie it's a very usual phenomena I guess, and we just have to add protections
17:38 melodie we don't have spammers however we had lots of hits from them, and now much less
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18:06 pdurbin I'm sure it's a common problem
18:06 pdurbin I've been very happy to see very little spam here on Freenode
18:07 pdurbin there was some at http://echelog.com/logs/browse/netbeans/1370210400 but this is quite rare, thankfully
18:17 pdurbin oh, speaking of forums, this one is new and uses the Discourse software I'm interested in: http://discuss.howtogeek.com
18:18 pdurbin it was mentioned on this podcast, an interview with the developer of Discourse: Episode 0.8.6 - Discourse, Ruby and more with Jeff Atwood (aka Coding Horror) - The Changelog - http://thechangelog.com/086/
18:23 pdurbin melodie: how stable is the linuxvillage forum? is it safe for me to post there? will data be lost? I was thinking I should follow up on my Discourse post
18:30 melodie pdurbin the forum is absolutely stable. Just once a while there is some uncomfort with error messages
18:30 melodie no data loss, no fear
18:31 pdurbin ok. good. thanks
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19:17 melodie qu'est-ce qui est le plus chouette dans une url, une forme "http://en.trucmuche.org ou bien une forme http://trucmuche.org/en ?
19:18 melodie titenana et arthefact vous pourriez cesser les allées venues ininterrompues ?
19:19 arthefact titenana,  fais rien et moi j'ai des soucis de connection ici dailleur je suis au tel avec mon opérateur
19:19 arthefact donc désolé j'y suis pour rien
19:20 melodie ton opérateur ? à 21h21 ? o_o
19:20 arthefact 24/24 7/7
19:20 melodie c'est du baratin publicitaire, amha
19:20 arthefact non
19:20 melodie c'est  comme chez Darty, y'a personne les week-ends
19:21 melodie ben tu les vois envoyer un techos sur place pour vérifier ta ligne physique ?
19:21 melodie regarde la ligne des CRC dans ton routeur
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19:22 titenana bonsoir! oui, donc, chez moi, y a du l'orage donc j'ai étais obligée a tout déconnecté
19:23 titenana en fait, débranché
19:23 melodie salut titenana, dans ces cas-là plutôt, déconnectes toi du chan et attend que ça passe avant de revenir
19:23 melodie je suggère d'acheter un petit onduleur à 80 euros pour avoir le temps d'éteindre les appareils proprement
19:24 titenana oui, mais arthefact il est pas responsable de mes actes
19:24 titenana c'est que moi qui gère mes affaires
19:24 melodie titenana je n'ai pas dit ça
19:24 melodie je vous ai hellé tous les deux parce que :
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19:25 melodie tu vois ?
19:25 titenana biensur que je vois
19:25 titenana mais je vois tjrs pas la liaison
19:26 titenana arthefact il est chez lui et moi, je suis chez moi
19:26 melodie je n'ai pas fait de liaison je vous ai hellé tous les deux, c'est tout
19:26 titenana ok bonne soirée a tout le monde!
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19:35 melodie soulshake what do you think? The future http://linuxvillage.org en subsite would be better with "en.linuxvillage.org" or rather "linuxvillage.org/en" ?
19:36 melodie pdurbin if you have an opinion about it I'm opened to ideas about it
19:37 pdurbin I never go to http://fr.wikipedia.org ... it feels like a separate site
19:37 melodie indeed it is
19:37 melodie the articles are much more numerous, and complet in the English part
19:38 melodie which might also happen for linuxvillage btw
19:38 pdurbin I mean, it *is* well integrated... if an article is available on the fr site there is always a link
19:39 melodie this seems complicated to me: wikipedia is a wiki, the linuxvillage website is not a wiki, but there will also be a wiki (almost ready)
19:39 melodie it looks French: http://linuxvillage.org
19:39 melodie there is one article in English:
19:39 melodie http://linuxvillage.org/2013/02/​06/linuxvillage-distribution-en
19:41 melodie pdurbin I don't know how important the choice can be for the future evolution as linuxvillage.net will be completely replaced with forum.linuxvillage.net and there will also be wiki.linuxvillage.net, and all will be available under the .net and under the .org TL domains
19:41 melodie once the choice will be done there is no return, I am being configuring the multisite just now
19:42 pdurbin ok
19:42 pdurbin melodie: do you have concerns about one way or the other? does it matter?
19:43 melodie I think I might want to make it so that it looks homogenous
19:43 melodie ie:
19:44 melodie http://wiki.linuxvillage.net ; en.linuxvillage.net ; forum.linuxvillage.net ; linuxvillage.net ;
19:44 pdurbin makes sense
19:44 melodie the unknown yet is how the wiki will be presented, once a plugin installed to have it in two languages
19:45 melodie I'm going to go to the #dokuwiki chan a little, to find some people who can tell me about a plugin and see how that goes
19:51 pdurbin melodie: check this out: https://github.com/openshift/dokuwiki-quickstart :)
19:52 melodie no thanks :)
19:52 melodie pdurbin check this one:
19:53 melodie http://linuxvillage.legtux.org
19:54 melodie and now : http://www.linuxvillage.le​gtux.org/dokuwiki/doku.php
19:54 melodie the shape is temporary...
19:54 melodie as well the url as the wiki look
19:55 pdurbin nice
19:56 melodie thanks :)
19:56 melodie later I will try to make it a bit more customized, such as this one:
19:57 melodie http://wiki.pclinuxos-fr.org/doku.php
19:58 pdurbin ok
19:59 melodie however a sitemap such as this one might not be working on that version : http://wiki.pclinuxos-fr.org/doku.php?id=sommaire
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20:37 lupo49 hi
20:37 melodie hi lupo49 !
20:37 melodie lupo49 I am on his website now
20:37 melodie http://njames.trevize.net
20:37 melodie it seems I can't find the code though
20:38 melodie in which directory are the plugins stored? don't see where now
20:38 lupo49 lib/plugins/
20:38 lupo49 but I don't know if it's a good idea to just disclose it without ask him before
20:39 melodie you can have a look at it while you wait for his return mail once I will have provided both to you?
20:39 melodie this is the idea :)
20:39 lupo49 okay
20:42 melodie his mail is nicolas.james AT gmail DOT com
20:45 melodie lupo49 and here is a tarball with the latest file modified as per his instructions a pair of days ago, and the original file
20:45 melodie http://meets.free.fr/Downloads/startpage.tar.bz2
20:46 melodie lupo49 if you can get it to be updated and added to the repo please let us know about it
20:46 melodie we are here, here is logged, and also at the linuxvillage.net forum
20:46 lupo49 is there an existing repo of it?
20:47 melodie I am unable to find it on his website:
20:47 melodie although I did a search : http://njames.trevize.net/wiki/d​oku.php?do=search&id=plugin
20:47 melodie lupo49 perhaps he lost it?
20:47 melodie never know..
20:47 lupo49 hehe
20:48 melodie the main page: http://njames.trevize.net/
20:48 lupo49 don't you have a github account?
20:50 melodie I do have one
20:50 melodie I am not yet very keen in using it though :)
20:50 lupo49 time to get started :P
20:51 melodie oh great
20:51 lupo49 for me, it is also a try and error game
20:51 melodie this is side tracking me
20:52 melodie I'll have a look later if I can fork his repos (I think he has one), but not now
20:53 melodie lupo49 you have the code the website url and his mail address : if this can help us all have this great code, I'll be happy!
20:55 lupo49 yes, I'm gonna care about it
21:02 melodie I am very happy to hear that.
21:02 melodie \o/ !
21:03 melodie lupo49 as you are someone quite keen, I also want to let you know we, pdurbin mainly, and myself a little, opened #wonderstudy on freenode and a github place for it
21:03 lupo49 what is it?
21:03 melodie never know who you know you could be interested
21:04 melodie http://wonderstudy.github.io
21:04 melodie at #wonderstudy you will see this as a topic "http://wonderstudy.github.io - from wonder to study | logs at http://irclog.greptilian.com/wonderstudy/today"
21:08 lupo49 what means "dedicated to wonder"?
21:09 lupo49 wonder like magic stuff, witches etc.?
21:09 lupo49 :>
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22:27 melodie re
22:27 melodie slystone ?
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22:28 melodie elle commence à m'enquiquiner, et arthefact aussi
22:35 slystone melodie: plaît-il ?
22:36 melodie je parle de titenana et son copain arthefact qui entrent et sortent sans arrêt sans participer plus que ça
22:36 melodie sinon oui que t'arrive-t-il ? tu as dû mettre des bandages ?
22:43 pdurbin melodie: we can change the name if you want :)
22:45 melodie pdurbin sorry, what are you talking about?
22:52 pdurbin the name "wonderstudy" :)
22:59 melodie pdurbin impossible
22:59 pdurbin heh. ok :)
22:59 melodie this is what has been voted for by several people and also you have done lots of work around it: the logs and the github place
23:00 melodie once the choice has been done, it's carved in the electrons! :D
23:00 pdurbin :)
23:00 pdurbin in truth, it wasn't much work
23:00 melodie ok now please look and tell me what
23:00 melodie this theme : http://linuxvillage.legtux.org
23:00 melodie this theme : http://linuxvillage.org
23:00 melodie this theme : http://citrotux.org
23:00 melodie ?
23:01 melodie this is for the next version of linuxvillage.org which will have one subsite all in English
23:01 melodie including the editor's board
23:01 melodie and admin board
23:01 pdurbin http://linuxvillage.legtux.org is the best by far
23:02 melodie ok adopted
23:02 pdurbin good job
23:02 melodie this is the skin I use usully at citrotux.org
23:02 melodie I just wrote a review for it at Wordpress
23:02 melodie http://wordpress.org/support/​view/theme-reviews/primepress
23:04 pdurbin looks good
23:04 pdurbin in http://devhell.info/post/2013-06-05/tek13/ a php developer says he wishes wordpress would drop support for old versions of php
23:05 pdurbin for wordpress 4.0 or whatever
23:05 pdurbin whatever comes out next
23:05 pdurbin to give web hosting companies incentive to upgrade php to a newer version
23:06 pdurbin so php developers like himself can enjoy the newer versions of php
23:06 pdurbin rather than php 5.2 or whatever old version he doesn't like
23:06 melodie he can wish
23:06 melodie the company needs to do whatever is necessary for their clients to continue using Wordpress
23:07 melodie the CMS is built for the people who publish, not just for the developers
23:08 melodie I don't know another CMS as reliable and easy to maintain either
23:10 melodie slystone saurais-tu si on peut mettre / forcer un espace insécable dans l'éditeur de Wordpress ? Si oui comment faire ?
23:26 pdurbin on that Discourse interview I mentioned earlier, the developer said he loves how Wordpress can update itself. he said he'd love to see any Ruby on Rails app (which Discourse is) have the same ability
23:37 melodie pdurbin Wordpress is the only CMS I know which is as much focused on the user : the one who publishes and the one who is a visitor : it has been W3C compliant for years whereas others, such as Joomla for instance who also have a large success, has only started recently to work on the accessibility side of the code
23:42 melodie pdurbin I bet you would love one with this theme, I'm watching the video now: http://p2theme.com
23:44 melodie ha ha! No fail whale! rotfl!

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