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IRC log for #linuxvillage, 2013-07-23

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19:53 joshu_ hi
19:57 pdurbin joshu_: what's new?
19:58 joshu_ hi pdurbin working on a custom ubuntu and have lots of questions :D
20:00 pdurbin hmm, I'm more of a Fedora guy
20:00 joshu_ no worries
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21:36 melodie bonsoir NoNa
21:44 slystone melodie: c'était quoi l'autre jour en particulier qui t'a choqué dans ce que tu m'as montré ?
21:45 slystone melodie: http://www.slystone.legtux.org/ ← hop, nouvelle trad !
21:45 melodie slystone redonne moi le lien ?
21:45 joshu_ guys do you know why with the open source amd graphics driver I can't change brightness, but with fglrx I can?
21:46 melodie ah oui, le gouvernement veut se mêler de faire des trucs pour que les gens aient plus d'accès à l'Internette !
21:46 slystone melodie: http://www.gouvernement.fr/premier-m​inistre/le-gouvernement-presente-la-​feuille-de-route-pour-le-numerique
21:46 slystone melodie: http://www.courrierdesmaires.fr/11683/yves-​rome-president-de-lavicca-le-plan-de-deploi​ement-du-tres-haut-debit-nous-satisfait-2/
21:47 slystone joshu_: what do you mean?
21:47 melodie vaste sujet dont nous pourrions débattre lors de longues soirées autour d'une assiette de tranches de saussisson (sauf si tu es vegan) et d'une bouteille de bon vin
21:48 melodie joshu_ because the provider of the chipset does not provide the specs ? Or maybe has provided them too late if they did?
21:48 joshu_ slystone my laptop has an amd 7340 hd graphics card.
21:48 slystone Je prends le verre de vin, et j'échange le saucisson contre un bon cake ou des sushis.
21:48 slystone (je ne suis pas vegan)
21:48 joshu_ ok well then I'll have to use the fglrx driver and not the open source one
21:48 melodie slystone j'aime bien les sushis, même si je ne sais pas les préparer
21:48 melodie joshu_ most probably
21:49 slystone joshu_: but how do you change the brightness? With the function keys? With another method?
21:49 melodie <slystone> melodie: http://www.slystone.legtux.org/ ← hop, nouvelle trad ! // cherchons le permalien
21:49 slystone melodie: moi je sais faire (mais je n'ai pas encore le matos :/). C'est assez simple.
21:49 melodie permalien : Eben Moglen – L’innovation sous l’austérité - http://www.slystone.legtux.org/?p=490
21:49 melodie il faut quoi comme matos ?
21:50 slystone Ce que je fais des fois aussi, c'est dorer des blinis à la poêle, et mettre des lamelles de saumon (cru) dessus.
21:50 melodie slystone amd ati closed source driver can come with a gui to configure a few things, same as with nvidia
21:50 melodie ah oui les blinis
21:50 melodie je ne sais pas si c'est la même chose, je fais des pancakes de temps en temps pour accompagner le repas
21:52 melodie pour les deux articles, tu lis tout, tu compares mentalement avec ce que tu sais sur la manière dont le gouvernement et les instances publiques traitent les citoyens et leurs droits, généralement, ainsi que leur manière de développer les infrastructures pour mettre les TIC à dispo du public…
21:53 slystone melodie: http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i354/imnoto​nly/Kit%20de%20sushi/imnotonly_kit_sushi_6.jpg ← not much
21:53 melodie je pense que pour les conclusions nous devrions nous rejoindre assez aisément
21:54 melodie ah oui, j'en ai mangé au resto "Les buffets du monde", c'est agréable à déguster
21:54 slystone melodie: well, what's your point about the matter?
21:54 melodie my point : BS
21:54 melodie :)
21:54 slystone melodie: yep. But when it's home made, it's so much better!
21:55 melodie :p
21:55 melodie ok !
21:56 slystone melodie: well, I don't expect a lot from the government.
21:56 pdurbin slystone: anarchist! ;)
21:57 slystone Personnally, I think we should do our best to encourage the non-private Internet providers.
21:57 slystone pdurbin: well, I love anarchism! :)
21:57 pdurbin :)
21:57 melodie so do I
21:58 slystone melodie: jujusete made a very good talk at PSES 2013, recalling how some organization like FDN helped the egyptians to connect to the Internet again.
21:58 slystone The could do it not because of SFR, or Orange, or whatever…
21:58 melodie I would like the people to get into an evolution with their consciousness then get rid of centralized governments, they are likely to do more bad than good
21:59 slystone I don't think we can have a lot of weight on these decisions, unless we develop some alternatives first.
21:59 melodie not only FDN me thinks
21:59 slystone not only FDN ;)
21:59 melodie telecomix too
22:00 slystone But FDN played a big role. And now you have fifteen or twenty organisations like FDN with FFDN (Fédération de French Data Network).
22:00 slystone melodie: Telecomix too. They've worked together.
22:01 melodie let's talk about a few other non for profit who do great things, for a change it's not about computing and internet, although they do use it to communicate
22:01 melodie did you hear about the seashepherds ?
22:01 slystone ok :)
22:01 slystone not at all!
22:02 melodie http://www.seashepherd.org/
22:02 melodie and
22:02 melodie http://www.seashepherd.fr
22:02 melodie great people
22:02 melodie they try to save whales
22:02 melodie from their natural predators : Japon and else
22:03 slystone melodie: oh. Yes, they are pretty fucked up. :/
22:03 melodie tu me traduis ta pensée ?
22:03 melodie not sure I understood
22:04 slystone Well, I'm just saying the situation is pretty bad for them…
22:05 slystone Eating whales is not good for the health anyway, the concentration in mercury is just too high.
22:05 pdurbin nuke the whales?!?
22:05 slystone pdurbin: done! (Fukushioma style)
22:05 slystone -o
22:05 pdurbin heh
22:06 pdurbin it's a Simpsons reference
22:06 slystone Oh! Simpsons  ♥
22:06 pdurbin crimsonfubot: lucky nuke the whales simpsons
22:06 crimsonfubot pdurbin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IUxK_0WLbg
22:07 slystone Gotta make something! XD
22:07 melodie what do you need to make ?
22:08 slystone melodie: it's just what he's saying.
22:08 melodie I just grabbed my headphones, so I'll watch now
22:09 melodie ok
22:10 melodie slystone "Eben Moglen – L’innovation sous l’austérité" : will you post it at the forum?
22:10 pdurbin slystone: doesn't he say, "gotta *nuke* something"?
22:12 melodie pdurbin I think he says "got to nuke some"
22:12 melodie "so-ome"
22:14 pdurbin yeah
22:19 pdurbin sorry to distract you :)
22:22 slystone melodie: on a second hearing, you're totally right!
22:24 joshu_ melodie have you used clonezilla?
22:24 melodie joshu_ yes I have
22:26 joshu_ slystone sorry missed your message..with the brightness keys, but I have tried in the system settings using the slider and it doesn't help. I guess there's no other way then suing the flgrx driver
22:26 joshu_ melodie when using clonezilla is it necessary to make any changes after cloning to make each clone unique?
22:32 slystone joshu_: erf! :(
22:33 slystone joshu_: I use radeonhd with my ati card, and I don't have this problem. Maybe it's just a matter of time?
22:35 joshu_ slystone very annoying
22:36 joshu_ I have tried different solutions I've found via google but nothing I do changes the brightness unless flgrx is installed
22:36 joshu_ weird that there isn't official support for this in ubuntu
22:37 melodie how can you do official support for a device which is not free/open source ?
22:37 melodie you be you can't
22:37 melodie you bet*
22:38 melodie joshu_ with clonezilla you just clone your install in a way which allows it to be restored
22:38 slystone joshu_: sorry, can't help. :/
22:38 melodie you have your directory in /home/partimag or such if I remember well
22:39 melodie so to restore it you need to have it again in a /home/partimag directory
22:39 joshu_ slystone no problem
22:39 joshu_ ok melodie
22:39 melodie if you use partclone : command line, it's different
22:39 melodie it will make a unique file containing all the fs
22:39 melodie and you can have it anywhere in the fs to install it to a machine, I guess
22:40 melodie however I don't handle this, I had help when I used it recently
22:40 melodie so if you want to try it, try "-h" for options and man partclone
22:42 joshu_ I will thanks
23:05 melodie welcome
23:06 melodie joshu_ you might also want to experience btrfs file system
23:06 melodie I've been told it has never been so easy to make a clone and restore it
23:07 melodie who here knows dejavu.org ?
23:07 melodie http://www.dejavu.org/
23:07 melodie " Deja vu- the web as we remember it "
23:07 melodie :p
23:08 melodie Experience the history of the web!
23:08 melodie Go to the emulator to re-live an era in the history of the web!
23:08 melodie http://linuxvillage.org seen in a web browser of the old ages: fancy?
23:27 pdurbin melodie: you've tried btrfs?
23:28 melodie someone I know did
23:28 pdurbin ah
23:39 melodie have to go, good night !
23:42 slystone Me too, GN pdurbin & joshu_ :)
23:42 joshu_ have a goo dnight guys!
23:51 slystone Cheers joshu_!
23:51 slystone http://www.joelonsoftware.​com/items/2013/07/22.html ← huhu

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