Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #linuxvillage, 2014-07-04

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07:25 melodie salut
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11:40 pdurbin captnfab: I'm glad to hear you like ikiwiki too :)
11:45 captnfab hehe, yeah
11:46 captnfab static websites are the best :)
11:47 pdurbin my ikiwiki has gotten a little slow lately. slow when I do a git push I mean. I'm not sure what changed. maybe I changed the page template. or maybe my vm in the cloud is slower. not sure
11:48 captnfab do you rebuild all your sources each time, or only what changed?
11:49 pdurbin buh
11:50 pdurbin here's my ikiwiki setup file: http://git.greptilian.com/?p=wiki.git;a=blob;f=wiki.setup
11:50 pdurbin and here's how I set up ikiwiki: https://github.com/pdurbin/greptilian-vagrant/blob/master/modules/server1/files/usr/local/greptilian/bin/wiki-setup
11:54 captnfab I'm diff-ing with my config .setup :)
11:55 pdurbin +1
11:55 captnfab I have a «#only_committed_changes: 0» option
11:56 captnfab maybe if you set this option to 1 on your setup…
11:56 captnfab but I'm not sure what it does
11:57 pdurbin "Added only_committed_changes config setting, which speeds up wiki refresh by querying git to find the files that were changed, rather than looking at the work tree. Not enabled by default as it can break some setups where not all files get committed to git" -- http://ikiwiki.info/news/version_3.20140102/
11:58 captnfab ok
11:58 pdurbin that does sound faster
11:58 captnfab but maybe it's not available in stable?
11:58 captnfab (in case you're running debian stable)
11:58 captnfab (or whatever not-rolling-release distrib)
11:58 pdurbin I build my own RPM from Fedora and put it on CentOS
11:59 captnfab ok
11:59 pdurbin haven't updated it in a while... ikiwiki is more or less "feature complete" for my needs :)
11:59 captnfab indeed :)
12:00 pdurbin and a `git push` used to be plenty fast... I'm going to first look at recent commits to see if I changed something to slow it down
12:00 captnfab or maybe it's a git thing, and you should perform a git gc on the server?
12:01 captnfab Dunno if push automatically does a gc
12:01 pdurbin I think a gc happens automatically after a while
12:01 pdurbin so maybe it'll just magically get faster some day :)
12:02 captnfab :D
12:02 pdurbin a gc would be a quick thing to try
12:02 captnfab yup
12:02 pdurbin anyway, it's not killing me. it's still fast enough. it's just not fast fast like it was before
12:03 captnfab ahh, good ol' time, there's nothin' like it :')
12:03 pdurbin :)
12:05 pdurbin should we point out to melodie that ikiwiki can look nice? http://www.dragonflybsd.org
12:06 captnfab I think that what she wants is a javascript rich text editor
12:07 captnfab and that's about all
12:07 captnfab with buttons an' all
12:07 captnfab :)
12:07 captnfab that's a girl thing probably
12:07 * captnfab hides
12:08 pdurbin captnfab: for that you are now required to read https://medium.com/matter/the-ping-pong-theory-of-tech-world-sexism-c2053c10c06c
12:09 captnfab thanks for ashaming me, I deserve that :)
12:11 pdurbin :)
12:12 pdurbin it looks like they tried to add http://www.ajaxian.com/wp-content/images/wikiwyg.png according to https://ikiwiki.info/todo/wikiwyg/
12:12 pdurbin (javascript rich text editor... wysiwyg)
12:12 captnfab yep
12:13 melodie captnfab the work done by devs for computers is ultimately done for end users, people with no tech knowledge, and this is what it is supposed to be. so the wiki I use is just a tool which should be super easy to use : for myself as well as for any end user. lucky if I find a few simple users here and there willing to write in the wiki. not talking about compiling a text. ("compiling? what is that?")
12:13 melodie and yes, I like buttons. ;-)
12:14 pdurbin I wonder if github's wiki has buttons, etc.
12:14 pdurbin yeah. it does. hmm
12:14 captnfab melodie: I fully agree with you
12:15 pdurbin and it's open source ( https://github.com/gollum/gollum ) but I don't like how it has a flat namespace (like mediawiki last time I looked at it)
12:15 captnfab that's why I said the only requirement was a user-friendly user-interface
12:15 melodie captnfab thanks. :)
12:16 melodie while I'm here, some news : I have done a eeepc 1101 bento edition
12:16 captnfab melodie: basically, «compiling text» is what happen when you click «submit»
12:16 melodie but I just redid it three times because there were a few details to improve, so now I'll do a quick test and upload it to the web space
12:17 captnfab it writes changes, commit changes, push changes, compiles things, and all that the user sees is «submit»
12:17 melodie captnfab I don't doubt, just it is transparent to me, and it can stay that way :D
12:17 captnfab indeed
12:17 captnfab what I'm saying is that it is transparent in ikiwiki as well
12:18 melodie I don't need either to know what the network does when I click "send" on my mail client message window, as long as the mail is delivered right, to the right person, in a time not too long
12:18 melodie captnfab I need a wiki where there is a switch button for two languages, and I need it to work right.
12:18 captnfab yeah, well, to some extends
12:18 melodie do you want to setup one which has these features?
12:19 captnfab a switch button for two languages ?
12:19 melodie yes
12:19 melodie fr and en
12:19 captnfab and what happen when the button is switched?
12:19 captnfab oh, a wiki, not an editor
12:19 captnfab ok
12:20 captnfab so, you want to have pages translatable, and navigation possible with just one click
12:20 melodie it should either provide a new page if the translation does not exist, with the right namespace, or provide the page with the translation
12:20 captnfab ok
12:20 melodie that's it
12:20 melodie now there is someone who is studying the story, because I had some discussions on the bug places at github, about that
12:21 captnfab :
12:21 captnfab :)
12:29 melodie ok une nouvelle Bento eeepc 1101HA va être mise en ligne
12:29 melodie ça marche nickel (avec le driver intel et le driver Xorg glamor)
12:30 captnfab :)
12:30 captnfab 1101HA, ça veut dire?
12:30 melodie 727 Mo, Smplayer, tout Libreoffice et plein de bons outils
12:30 melodie c'est la version 1101HA de cet eeepc
12:30 captnfab ah!
12:30 melodie cherche "eeepc 1101HA" ?
12:30 captnfab ok :)
12:31 captnfab je pensais que 1101HA était une référence de la bento
12:31 captnfab :)
12:31 melodie mais zram-config n'est pas lancé, et ça pourrait être dû à cette version de kernel. J'accumule les rapports de bug à faire :-(
12:32 captnfab merf
12:32 captnfab et, il y a une raison particulière pour faire une distro spéciale pour ces machines ?
12:32 melodie je sens que je vais bientôt passer une petite journée pour régler ça
12:33 melodie j'ai eu une cliente qui a cette machine, comme il a fallu chercher pour un réglage qui tienne et n'affiche pas juste la moitié de l'écran tandis que l'autre restait noire, j'ai décidé de porter le résultat dans une version dédiée et adaptée
12:34 melodie j'ai aussi amélioré les résultats trouvés sur le forum ubn
12:34 melodie _ubntu.com
12:34 captnfab d'ac
12:34 melodie parce qu'ils proposaient le driver uxa, mais glamor a l'air meilleur, plus fluide côté résultats
12:34 melodie les vidéos flash ne font pas figer le bureau par exemple
12:35 melodie et la cliente est contente, elle a économisé l'achat d'une machine
12:36 captnfab ok, je ne connais pas trop glamor/uxa
12:36 captnfab ça m'a l'air d'être un sacré boulot qd même de faire une variante comme ça
12:36 captnfab have fun :)
12:36 melodie voilà glamor: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Glamor/
12:36 melodie non c'est facile
12:36 captnfab facile, c'est une chose
12:36 captnfab rapide, c'en est une autre
12:36 captnfab :)
12:36 melodie c'est juste que les programmes faits pour tous ne sont pas tous nécessaires donc j'en ai ôté un peu
12:37 melodie et ajouté smplayer à la place de xnoise, plus des gstreamer et autres matroska
12:38 captnfab mhh, peut-être que je gagnerais à installer glamor sur mon eeepc
12:38 captnfab enfin bon, je pense que ses pbs de lenteurs ne sont pas dus seulement à mesa :)
12:39 captnfab le DD me semble être le premier coupable
12:39 captnfab c'est un vieux modèles, un 10 pouces
12:39 captnfab -s
12:40 melodie https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_Graphics
12:40 melodie au lieu de 20-intel.conf j'ai mis un xorg.conf mais le principe reste le même
12:40 melodie tu n'as rien à installer c'est déjà dans xorg
12:41 melodie il faut juste le préciser en tant que méthode d'accélération avec "AccelMethod" "glamor"
12:41 melodie c'est quelle version du eeepc ?
12:41 melodie bon je commence l'upload et je file
12:42 captnfab melodie: c'est un 1015PEM
12:43 melodie ce n'est pas forcément la même configuration
12:43 captnfab ça reste de l'intel en gpu
12:43 melodie j'ai aussi eu un 1025c et celui-là avait besoin d'un autre driver
12:44 melodie cedarview
12:44 melodie http://forum.linuxvillage.org/index.php/topic,525.msg3334.html#msg3334
12:44 melodie as-tu installé zram-config dessus, ou équivalent ? (il est sous Debian j'imagine ?)
12:44 melodie tu te souviens tu m'avais aidée à améliorer une config de zram, pour Debian ?
12:44 captnfab il est sous Debian et je n'utilise pas zram
12:45 captnfab voui, je me souviens
12:45 melodie http://meets.free.fr/Downloads/Debian/zramconfig/
12:45 melodie tu pourrais essayer
12:45 melodie tout est dans le répertoire du lien ci-dessus
12:45 melodie bon je file, à plus tard !
12:45 captnfab à plus
12:46 melodie :)
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