Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #marpa, 2014-06-20

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15:12 jeffreykegler I continue to toy with the idea of pulling the Lua language into Marpa, to give it a simple extensible semantic.
15:15 jeffreykegler One objection was the lack of Unicode, but on thinking about it, I first note that the authors speak Portugeuse or português.  While we Anglophones can be insensitive to the need to deal with text that uses non-ASCII-7 codepoints, this would not have been true of the 3 authors of Lua.
15:17 jeffreykegler Since Lua is extensible, Marpa can pull in the full Unicode library of its choice.  It does lose the power to have its scripting language in Portuguese, but Marpa can still work on UTF-8 because LUA I/O is byte streams.  It does make sense to not have to deal with UTF-8 for every string, just for those from external users who want/need UTF-8.
15:18 jeffreykegler On looking into the speed issue also, Lua seems fine.
15:19 jeffreykegler Squirrel, which was suggested seems like Lua plus "featurism" -- stuff people wanted added on.  Squirrel is actually slower than Lua because of that.
15:20 jeffreykegler "Featurism" is fine in this context, in fact adding all sorts of features is why I want a highly extensible language, but ...
15:21 jeffreykegler I want them to be my own features, not somebody's else ideas, added as overhead into the standard set.
15:23 * jeffreykegler (for those new to this channel) occasionally makes "speeches to an empty room", like the preceeding, as a way of getting preliminary thoughts and isolated observations out and discussed.
15:25 jeffreykegler takes more important, or more fully formed, thoughts to the Google group.
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19:18 jdurand Jeffrey, since scripting languages are often designed for game applications, I searched and found this interesting link: http://codeplea.com/game-scripting-languages
19:20 jdurand It confirms that squirrel is slower. The "Pawn" language was impressive, although I am not sure of its use now -;
19:48 jdurand and squirrel supporters all claim the numbers from squirrel2 are outdated, squirrel3 should be used for comparison! Ha la la...

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