Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #marpa, 2014-07-30

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03:55 jeffreykegler joined #marpa
03:56 jeffreykegler jdurand: if you're backlogging -- I'm trying to figure out Debian's status/plans for Lua and LuaJIT, and the layout of their website confuses me.
03:56 * jeffreykegler is asking Jean-Damien because he's the channels foremost Debian expert
03:58 jeffreykegler Latest stable Debian LuaJIT seems to be luajit-2.0.0-beta9, which seems like a strange choice.
03:58 jeffreykegler There's a LuaJIT 2.0.2 out there but it's graded unstable -- I'm not sure whether I should let that bother me or not.
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06:14 ronsavage The Debian choice is probably due to availability of a body to do the work rather than the code. I don't use unstable or even testing for anything. I believe there's a way of getting just 1 package from a source such as unstable. Sorry, though, I don't know how to do that. Testing, despite the name, for Debian at least, is regarded as much closer to stable than with other OSes.
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06:22 jeffreykegler ronsavage: So, on that theory, LuaJIT probably stalled at 2.0.0-beta9 because the appropriate resource(s) became busy with other stuff, and not because of any qualms about the quality of the later versions.
06:46 ronsavage Yeah - That'd be my (actually baseless) guess, but it's often the way.
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09:12 jdurand Re http://irclog.perlgeek.de/marpa/2014-07-30#i_9103943 - where did you get this luajit-2.0.0-beta9 information ? The debian official listing per package is at http://packages.debian.org and for LuaJIT is says 2.0.3+dfsg-3
09:16 jdurand Reference: https://packages.qa.debian.org/l/luajit.html
09:18 jdurand Re http://irclog.perlgeek.de/marpa/2014-07-30#i_9104417 - to install a package from any debian "level", synaptics, dselect, apt etc... tools allows to do that. I personnally always only the command line and would say: "apt-get -t unstable install luajit" to force installation using the unstable repository - I am running "unstable" at 99% anyway -;
09:19 jdurand and a powerfull way to know what could happen on your machine before installing is: apt-cache policy luajit, c.f. nopaste below
09:20 shadowpaste "jdurand" at 88.160.190.154 pasted "apt-cache policy luajit" (7 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8002/410868
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11:38 shadowpaste "jeffreykegler" at 99.107.97.139 pasted "Output of apt-cache policy luajit" (7 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8002/410887
11:40 jeffreykegler Is my problem that I'm downstream from Ubuntu?
11:58 jdurand joined #marpa
11:58 jdurand It is Ubuntu's policy of closed distribution c.f. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=luajit
11:58 jdurand There is no pb if you require a version >= 2.0.2 : lucid, precise, and raring users will have to upgrade their OS - not the others
12:01 jdurand All in all, whe we talk about a debian-derived distribution, do not take the road of a headache of what every distribution distributes -; take debian as the only and sole reference - all the others with no exception are officialy debian derivations and have to assume their forked from it
12:01 jdurand "when we talk"
12:02 jdurand "have to assume they forked from it"
12:07 jeffreykegler I'm at precise -- does that mean a kernel upgrade?
12:09 jdurand no
12:09 jdurand well
12:09 jdurand depends on the distribution
12:09 jdurand but in case of a pure userspace thinky I dount
12:10 jdurand doubt
12:11 jdurand probably adding a saucy repository to a list of repositoties on an older distribution can do it - but there is a risk - usually in such a case you add temporarly a repository URL, do the install you want, and remove this temporarly addon
12:11 jdurand or install by hand rebuilding the package from source
12:11 jdurand or use backport of packages
12:12 jdurand look to "backport" on the Ubuntu page - you are lucky this is very probably the way to do
12:12 jdurand to go
12:17 jdurand afk see u
12:19 jeffreykegler Thanks!
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