Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #marpa, 2014-08-21

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00:47 ronsavage1 I take the comment to mean he's a beginner, and is struggling with various concepts, such as quantification disallowed on a RHS with alternatives, etc.
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01:47 Topic for #marpa is now IRC logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/marpa/today - Pastebin: http://scsys.co.uk:8002/marpa - Released code: https://metacpan.org/pod/Marpa::R2 - Source code: https://github.com/jeffreykegler/Marpa--R2 - Mailing list: https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#%21forum/marpa-parser - Web site: http://jeffreykegler.github.io/Marpa-web-site/
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03:03 jeffreykegler ronsavage: What's interesting here is that Marpa, unlike other parsers, delivers the parse you describe -- that is, give BNF, and you get *exactly* what the BNF says.
03:03 jeffreykegler This is so unusual, it seems to be considered perverse.
03:05 jeffreykegler While tangled regexes and rat's nest custom coding is seen as "sane".
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03:12 jeffreykegler A lot depends on what you've gotten accustomed to seeing.
03:13 jeffreykegler In the 1970's all the cool kids wanted to write self-describing general BNF parsers, without having the tools to do so.
03:14 jeffreykegler Now the tool arrives, but everybody looks at and says, "What relevance does *this* have to functional programming?"
03:15 Aria Heh. Sigh.
03:17 jeffreykegler Two characters from fiction I feel like a lot: one is Rip van Winkle.  In my version Rip is studying parsing in the 1970's when he falls asleep for 4 decades under a tree in New Haven.
03:19 jeffreykegler Somehow he escapes being mugged, but when he wakes up, he mentions the stuff he was learning, and nobody knows what to make of it -- they think it's a language of his own.
03:20 jeffreykegler The other is HG Wells _Time Traveler_, who invents this really cool new technology, and finds he can do all sorts of stuff, like go back to the Renaissance and watch Da Vinci painting the Mona Lisa, or attend a class of Hypatia's in Alexandria.
03:22 jeffreykegler But in the Wells story, the Time Traveler decides it's prudent to keep his invention secret -- this amazing new tool becomes his personal toy.
03:23 jeffreykegler I better go.  A theory of mine is that a cosmic force makes my Internet connection flake out when I'm talking to much -- any way, it's certainly acting up now. :-)
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05:02 jdurand Re http://irclog.perlgeek.de/marpa/2014-08-20#i_9214988 - this is the "libc" for applications built with Visual Studio++, not Visual Studio itself
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05:22 ronsavage jeffreykegler: Any new sufficiently advanced technology seems to magic!
05:22 ronsavage Oops. 'to' => 'like'.
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17:30 jeffreykegler jdurand:how's the Perl 6 grammar coming along?
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19:53 jdurand_ Re http://irclog.perlgeek.de/marpa/2014-08-21#i_9223474 - no time left to spend on that - back at office this week and that was quite intensive... If anybody wants to take over, I will not be against, despite my definit interest in the subject
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22:43 jeffreykegler jdurand: Right now Larry seems curious about Marpa, but no more, so there really isn't a rush.
22:45 jeffreykegler Marpa IMHO has great potential there, but realizing it would not be easy -- the logic of left parsing is built deep into the current language design ...
22:46 jeffreykegler so I'm not really sure where this goes.
22:46 jeffreykegler jdurand: I take it that others could join in the effort?  Frankly, yours was the only response.
22:55 jeffreykegler To jdurand, Ruslan S. and Marpa's other Windows-based power users :
22:56 jeffreykegler What do I need for a Marpa development environment on Windows?
22:57 jeffreykegler I've been setting up Cygwin, because I've a lot of experience with it in a former work environment, but
22:57 jeffreykegler I take it that's not the way to go.

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