Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #marpa, 2015-10-02

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05:40 Idiosyncrat Good night!
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18:38 ceridwen I'm curious if this paper has ever been discussed here: http://goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au​/~ipeake/pubs/earley-cps.pdf
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18:55 Idiosyncrat I'm interested in LaTeX advice on math packages.
18:56 Idiosyncrat The current theory article used the amsart package which is very standard and was a good fit.
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18:56 Idiosyncrat But now my "paper" is clearly going to settle in at more than 80 pages.
18:57 Idiosyncrat I wonder if I should switch to amsbook, and what the implictions are.
18:57 Idiosyncrat I know there are other choices than ams{art,book}, but I don't want to get into any complications with other packages.
18:58 Idiosyncrat My current choice of LaTeX packages is compatible with ams*, and I don't want to do a major rewrite to change packages.
18:59 Idiosyncrat The reason the new paper is longer, btw, is that I proof everything from 1st principles ...
19:00 Idiosyncrat the other paper made heavy use of results in the published literature, which is traditional and made it much shorter ...
19:00 Idiosyncrat but which also makes it very hard to read unless you have a detailed knowledge of the parsing literature, particularly as it relates to Earley's algorithm.
19:01 Idiosyncrat With this new version, after some careful attention to the basic Wikipedia articles, you are ready to read the whole thing.
19:13 ceridwen Idiosyncrat, I haven't worked with amsbook specifically in a while, but my general recollection from working with LaTeX classes intended for books is that they really only work well for published physical books---their margins are designed for a spine, for instance.  You could probably tweak it with some effort but I'm not sure it would be worthwhile.  I know there's a LaTeX report class that's intended for technical reports and other sorts of docum
19:13 ceridwen ents that are longer than journal articles but not usually published as books.
19:13 ceridwen I don't know if there's an AMS equivalent.
19:19 Idiosyncrat ceridwen: a random LaTeX class is not likely to work with all the specialized math packages, so unless I can find evidence somebody is using it for serious math, ...
19:19 Idiosyncrat I'm not going to look at stuff like LaTeX report.
19:21 Idiosyncrat I wouldn't dream, for example, of using the same document class for my math articles that I used for my novel.
19:23 ceridwen LaTeX report is one of the three base classes (article, report, book), I'm pretty sure.  If the AMS hasn't bothered to write a version of it, that's another thing.
19:25 ceridwen What class did you use for your novel?
19:25 Idiosyncrat There are some LaTeX math experts in the Marpa community, I'm hoping they will respond.
19:30 Idiosyncrat For the novel I think I used the book class in the Kona-script set of packages.
19:30 Idiosyncrat I'll have to look it up.
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20:05 jdurand Re http://irclog.perlgeek.de/m​arpa/2015-09-28#i_11288029 - I stopped considering Chris's reports in cpantesters - more than once there was an evidence of a garbled setup
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20:16 jdurand Damned, my MarpaX::RFC::RFC3987 is cited in "What-s-new-on-CPAN---September-2015" ! C.f. http://perltricks.com/article/196/2015/1​0/1/What-s-new-on-CPAN---September-2015
20:50 Idiosyncrat jdurand: re http://irclog.perlgeek.de/m​arpa/2015-10-02#i_11310351 -- Chris produces a very high volume of test reports -- some serious % of the reports are his.
20:51 Idiosyncrat And his reports include very useful coverage not duplicated elsewhere ...
20:51 Idiosyncrat so his reports are useful, ...
20:52 Idiosyncrat but, yes, his aggressive expansion of CPANtesters coverage is occasionally at the expense of quality.
20:53 Idiosyncrat jdurand: re http://irclog.perlgeek.de/m​arpa/2015-10-02#i_11310430 -- yes, the RFC8937 module.  Congratulations!
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23:17 ronsavage ceridwen: Re http://irclog.perlgeek.de/m​arpa/2015-10-02#i_11309902. I've just seen you link and since I have various connexions to Monash, over decades, I emailed one of the authors, Ian Peake, mentioning Marpa.
23:37 ronsavage But, Ian
23:37 ronsavage But Ian's email address at Monash is no longer valid. I've copied the other author........

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