Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #marpa, 2017-04-19

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00:39 idiosyncrat Demat!
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01:20 ronsavage JK: See https://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=hv_iterkey&l=perl5-porters%40perl.org
01:22 ronsavage Or: http://grokbase.com/search?q=hv_iterkey
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02:37 idiosyncrat ronsavage: re https://irclog.perlgeek.de/marpa/2017-04-19#i_14448675 -- thanks.  I hadn't thought of looking there.
02:38 idiosyncrat But in fact, although they do mention the XS methods involved, nothing that comes up really speaks to the issue I found.
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04:37 ronsavage JK: Oh, well, at least it's more info, in the null sense I guess :-O.
04:50 idiosyncrat It's a place I *should* have checked.
04:50 idiosyncrat It came up empty this time, but most times there'd be *something*.
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16:48 idiosyncrat http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~pjbonamy/files/bonamy_dissertation-18_Apr_2016b.pdf
16:49 idiosyncrat The above is a Michigan Technogical University thesis which cites Marpa.
16:52 idiosyncrat The thesis is about computer security, and includes a description of the author's Maia language, "a language for describing integrity constraints on arbitrary file types"
16:54 idiosyncrat For research purposes, he prototypes Maia with Yacc/Bison and some hand-parsing -- he mentions Marpa as a possible basis for a more complete and robust implementation.
16:56 idiosyncrat My Marpa paper apparently has passed the "citeable" hurdle.  Academics have been reluctant to cite papers not in the academic literature.
16:57 idiosyncrat This despite the fact that the journals and US academia have become something of a mess, to the extent a lot of work has to take place outside them, a situation which academics know better than anyone.
17:00 idiosyncrat It's especially nice to see the citation in a Ph.D. thesis, because those have to be submitted to the whole department to nit-pick for things like citations of randos, and at stake is years of work and one's future in academe.
17:01 idiosyncrat So Ph.D. theses are written defensively -- more so than any other academic writing.
17:02 idiosyncrat All of which suggests that the Marpa paper is not completely "safe" to cite.
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19:45 idiosyncrat re: https://irclog.perlgeek.de/marpa/2017-04-19#i_14452766 -- OOPS!
19:46 idiosyncrat Big typo.  Change "not completely safe" to "*NOW* completely safe"
19:46 idiosyncrat Changes the meaning a little bit :-)
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