Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #metacpan, 2013-06-26

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04:29 metacpan [metacpan-web01] oalders pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/n1D1ew
04:29 metacpan metacpan-web/master 40b978c Olaf Alders: Adds .perltidyrc.
04:29 metacpan metacpan-web/master ab0c2d4 Olaf Alders: Adds .tidyallrc and Code::TidyAll pre-commit hook template.
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13:43 BinGOs rwstauner++
13:51 rwstauner :-)
13:55 rwstauner oalders: there was already a "perltidyrc" (no dot)... are both files used? or is the one without a dot not used?
14:18 oalders rwstauner: good catch.  i don't know if perltidy even picks up on the rc with no dot
14:18 rwstauner i'm not sure either
14:18 oalders but we need a slightly different file to work with tidyall
14:19 rwstauner i don't use it since i've never been able to get the options to do quite what i want
14:19 oalders so i think i can just blow the old one away
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14:19 metacpan [metacpan-web01] oalders pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/J73Uqw
14:19 metacpan metacpan-web/master 48e7657 Olaf Alders: Removes perltidyrc (no leading dot).
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14:19 oalders tidyall or perltidy?
14:19 dipsy [ Removes perltidyrc (no leading dot). · 48e7657 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
14:19 rwstauner perltidy
14:19 rwstauner don't know what tidyall is
14:20 oalders https://metacpan.org/module/Code::TidyAll
14:20 dipsy [ Code::TidyAll - Engine for tidyall, your all-in-one code tidier and validator - metacpan.org ]
14:20 oalders actually, this is a better intro https://metacpan.org/module/JSWAR​TZ/Code-TidyAll-0.17/bin/tidyall
14:20 dipsy [ tidyall - Your all-in-one code tidier and validator - metacpan.org ]
14:20 oalders the fact that it can also clean up JS and CSS is great
14:21 rwstauner interesting
14:21 oalders and you can force it to sort lines on certain files, like .gitignore
14:21 rwstauner hmm
14:21 oalders pair it with a pre-commit hook and you can force everyone on your team to use the "one true way"
14:21 oalders whatever that may be
14:21 rwstauner i gathered as much from your commit hook installer
14:21 oalders actually, add a pre-receive hook and you can really force it on them
14:22 rwstauner is that something you want everyone to use?
14:22 oalders well, we'd need to discuss it, but perltidy isn't very helpful if not used in the same way by everyone
14:22 oalders and tidyall can tidy the entire repo at once
14:22 rwstauner ok
14:23 oalders but i'd really like to have everyone use the pre-commit hook.  it'll make the code look more consistent
14:23 oalders the first tidy will be quite large and after that diffs get easier to read
14:24 oalders and this allows you to write sloppy JS and have tidyall clean it up for you etc
14:25 rwstauner :-)
14:25 rwstauner i try not to write crappy code
14:25 rwstauner but it never works
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14:28 metacpan [metacpan-web01] rwstauner pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ESteWA
14:28 metacpan metacpan-web/master c5893fa Randy Stauner: Make git-hook installer executable
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14:28 dipsy [ Make git-hook installer executable · c5893fa · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
14:31 oalders oops :)
14:31 rwstauner ;-)
14:51 rwstauner i upgraded virtualbox yesterday and now i can't run 'vagrant up'... the import call fails
14:51 * rwstauner grumbles
14:55 rwstauner https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/11895
14:55 dipsy [ #11895 (OVF import fails with NS_ERROR_ABORT after upgrade to 4.2.14 => Fixed in SVN) ? Oracle VM VirtualBox ]
15:02 rwstauner installing that test build does work
15:05 oalders well, i'm glad i didn't upgrade VirtualBox yesterday as well :)
15:05 oalders rwstauner: you installed the 32 bit VM?
15:06 rwstauner actually no, it's got nothing to do with metacpan except that i could warn people and complain at the same time
15:06 rwstauner running vagrant for $work atm
15:06 oalders ah, you mean the virtualbox test build?
15:18 rwstauner yes, i installed the test-build they linked to in that ticket and it worked again
15:18 rwstauner but i think i'd rather downgrade
15:19 rwstauner and keep the one lined up for my own OS version
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