Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #metacpan, 2013-10-08

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00:11 genehack i was just coming in to ask if it was just me
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01:02 SineSwiper oalders: ^^^
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01:31 oalders haarg, genehack, SineSwiper: i think there's a physical move taking place right now.  we initially thought it was going to be last week, but it guess it's today
01:31 oalders should be around 2 hours of downtime
01:35 oalders ok. machine has been back up for about 15 minutes but load is high.
01:36 oalders search for Plack takes 9.957 seconds
01:36 SineSwiper that's bizarre
01:36 oalders cache needs to warm up etc
01:36 SineSwiper ahhh, okay
01:37 oalders subsequent search for the same term takes 0.342 seconds
01:37 SineSwiper 2hr of downtime isn't bad compared to some of the bad service I've had with certain VPS providers
02:27 oalders :) load seems to be pretty much normal now
02:29 haarg doesn't seem like anything has gotten indexed since it came back
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11:02 celogeek hi, does any one know how to run cpanm with a basic http authen ?
11:03 celogeek I want to use a mirror that need an authentification for private module
11:06 ranguard celogeek: try #toolchain if no one knows here
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11:36 celogeek thx ranguard
11:44 haarg oalders: indexing still seems stalled
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12:45 oalders haarg: thanks for the nudge.  rrr-client wasn't running.  it's catching up now
12:45 oalders machine hadn't been rebooted since january
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13:26 ranguard I'm starting to see metacpan as about the 4th or 5th result in google :)
13:28 * ranguard adds note to google analytics about when perl.org link went live
13:48 oalders i've actually started noticing some better results as well
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16:34 mst opbots: names
16:35 mst GumbyNET5: spread the love
16:35 mst BinGOs: I appear to have forgotten how to use your bots.
16:46 ether I thought it was Bender*
16:46 ether who aren't here
16:46 ether GumbyNET5, spread the love
16:46 ether GumbyNET7, spread the love
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16:46 ether the site is still down? was there server trauma? :(
16:47 haarg seem working to me
16:48 haarg although apparently it skipped indexing a bunch of stuff from yesterday
16:50 oalders haarg: it should have caught up on everything
16:50 oalders anything in particular that's missing?
16:50 oalders ether: i think it was 30 or 40 minutes yesterday.  no other downtime
16:50 haarg Devel::Confess
16:50 BinGOs GumbyNET5: trust oalders
16:50 GumbyNET5 But I don't trust _you_ BinGOs
16:50 BinGOs figures.
16:50 oalders heh
16:51 haarg https://metacpan.org/release/​HAARG/Devel-Confess-0.003000 this exists, although never got picked up as indexed due to the pause issues the other day
16:51 dipsy [ Devel-Confess-0.003000 - Warns and dies noisily with stack backtraces - metacpan.org - Perl programming language ]
16:51 haarg but it doesn't seem to have 0.003001 at all
16:53 GumbyNET7 >:)
16:53 oalders https://metacpan.org/module/Devel::Confess
16:53 dipsy [ Devel::Confess - Warns and dies noisily with stack backtraces - metacpan.org - Perl programming language ]
16:53 oalders just indexed it manually
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17:03 yrlnry https://metacpan.org/module/DateTime::Moonpig is not found, and https://metacpan.org/searc​h?q=DateTime%3A%3AMoonpig is 0 results, but  https://metacpan.org/module/MJD/DateTim​e-Moonpig-0.90/lib/DateTime/Moonpig.pm is fine.  What's up with that?
17:03 dipsy [ Search for "DateTime::Moonpig" - metacpan.org - Perl programming language ] [ DateTime::Moonpig - metacpan.org - Perl programming language ]
17:04 yrlnry And DateTime::Moonpig vanished from the menu of my stuff at https://metacpan.org/author/MJD although it was there yesterday.
17:04 dipsy [ Mark Jason Dominus (???) (MJD) - metacpan.org - Perl programming language ]
17:12 mauke yrlnry: malformed NAME section
17:13 mauke yrlnry: can you remove C< > from NAME and add L< > around http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/1929 ?
17:13 dipsy [ rjbs's rubric: one more reason to dislike mutability ]
17:13 yrlnry Thanks.
17:14 mauke no, thank *YOU*!!
17:14 mauke I may actually use this module
17:15 mauke I've had an isomorphic DateTime bug where a Moose attribute had default => method { $self->other_attribute->add(hours => 1) } or something
17:15 yrlnry Though I think DateTime may be irredeemable.
17:15 mauke which of course mutated the original
17:15 mauke yeah, Zefram had a talk about that
17:16 ether whenever I have a DateTime attribute, I do: ( ..., is => 'bare', handles => { <attr name> => 'clone' } to prevent that happening
17:16 ether (assuming it would have been ro previously, not rw)
17:16 mauke wait, you can do that?
17:16 ether :D
17:16 yrlnry nice.
17:17 daxim that should be =head1 NAME\n\nDateTime::Moonpig - abstract goes here\n\n
17:17 yrlnry Beh, that's what I had before, than I fixed it in 0.91.
17:17 ether I use [PodWeaver] in dist.ini, then set # ABSTRACT: ...  in the .pm file so I don't have to insert a NAME section manually
17:56 ribasushi yrlnry: no mention in the POD of the origin of the name...?
17:56 ribasushi epic fail
17:57 yrlnry http://perl.plover.com/yak/Moonpig/
17:57 dipsy [ PIGS in SPACE!!! ]
17:57 yrlnry I will add a note
17:58 yrlnry can I add it to the NAME section, or will that break everything again?
18:12 ether I'd put it in the DESCRIPTION somewhere, or even near the end in its own section, like =head1 ORIGIN or something
18:13 yrlnry =head1 ETHERIDGE SAID TO PUT THIS HERE
18:13 ether look ma I'm famous!
18:44 yrlnry At https://metacpan.org/module/DateTime​::Moonpig#Mutators-are-fatal-errors , why is "truncate" in pink?
18:44 dipsy [ DateTime::Moonpig - Saner interface to DateTime - metacpan.org - Perl programming language ]
18:45 yrlnry Oh, because truncate is also a Perl built-in function.
18:45 yrlnry Silly.
18:48 haarg somehow in that entire pod doc about how it differs from DateTime, it manages to not link DateTime once
18:50 haarg also: "main points are: h"
19:02 rjbs yrlnry: I use =head1 SECRET ORIGINS in a few dists.
19:03 ether it's not so secret if you give it away!
19:04 yrlnry What's the POD incantation for linking to the DateTime manual but still typeset "DateTime" in typewriter font?
19:05 yrlnry Can I L<C<DateTime>> or is that excessively straightforward?
19:05 yrlnry L<C<DateTime>|DateTime> ?
19:10 rjbs L<C<
19:10 rjbs the first one
19:11 yrlnry When  irun pod2html on a document containing L<DateTime> and L<overload> it says Cannot find "DateTime" in podpath: cannot find suitable replacement path, cannot resolve link
19:11 yrlnry Cannot find "overload" in podpath: cannot find suitable replacement path, cannot resolve link
19:12 yrlnry I wonder what it's really trying to find.
19:14 yrlnry So is there a document somewhere that actually documents pod, or is perlpod the best we can do?
19:14 rjbs perlpodspec
19:14 yrlnry I thought Sean Burke had written up a doc about all the stupid shit that
19:14 yrlnry Yep, that's it.
19:15 yrlnry Thanks.
19:18 yrlnry What does MetaCPAN use for formatting its HTML pages?  I would like to test the generated HTML offline without having to upload a new release of my module.
19:19 mauke yrlnry: I use this scrodule: http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/perl/POD2XHTML.pm
19:22 yrlnry Thanks.  What's in Defaults::Mauke that defines "method"?
19:22 mauke Function::Parameters
19:24 yrlnry Lovely.  Thanks again.
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22:49 * trs always thought that format codes within other format codes required doubling: L<< C<DateTime> >>

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