Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #metacpan, 2014-02-06

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10:36 ribasushi on 1200x800 (most 12" and smaller beasts) the "latest version" is now scrolled off the screen
10:36 ribasushi is there a reason it was moved from above the avatar?
13:05 haarg ribasushi: you mean where it used to say 'go to latest'?
13:06 ribasushi yes, it is now bottom left
13:06 ribasushi used to be top right
13:06 mo I think he is talking about the perma links
13:06 mo that permalink has always been there
13:06 mo http://bootstrap.metacpan.org/pod/Moo
13:06 dipsy [ Moo - Minimalist Object Orientation (with Moose compatibility) - metacpan.org - Perl programming language ]
13:07 haarg ribasushi: there is an icon to the left of the author's name
13:07 ribasushi mo: then I am simply confused, and hence am rephrasing "where did the last link go" :)
13:07 haarg upper left
13:07 haarg https://metacpan.org/release/TOBYINK/Type-Tiny-0.039_04
13:07 dipsy [ Type-Tiny-0.039_04 - tiny, yet Moo(se)-compatible type constraint - metacpan.org ]
13:07 ribasushi ah...
13:07 haarg i don't really like it
13:07 mo haarg: yeah me neither :) we need to come up with something else
13:07 mo I moved it around all over the place
13:07 ribasushi +1 on not linking it
13:08 mo but couldn't find a good place
13:08 ribasushi but why an icon in the 1st place?
13:09 mo maybe we can use one of the fancy bootstrap badges
13:09 mo write "outdated" or "developer"
13:09 mo place it in the left toolbar
13:30 ribasushi ++ on that ;)
13:30 dipsy Thanks!
13:30 haarg somewhat related https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web/pull/1081
13:30 dipsy [ color release name based on release status/maturity by haarg · Pull Request #1081 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
13:38 mo haarg: could you please use less instead of style.css?
13:38 mo that file is supposed to go away at some point
13:39 haarg mo: sticking it in style.less is fine?
13:39 mo there is a breadcrumbs.less
13:39 mo that seems to be the right place
13:40 haarg ah so there is
13:40 mo thanks :)
13:40 ranguard mo: Oh! - should we even have that first css asset now?
13:41 * ranguard didn't notice it was still there :(
13:46 ribasushi https://metacpan.org/source/DAGOLDEN/Test-DiagINC-0.002/lib/Test <=== name and documentation are fused together to form a single string
13:46 dipsy [ Browse DAGOLDEN/Test-DiagINC-0.002/lib/Test - metacpan.org ]
13:59 oalders the columns in that table are too close together
14:05 dolmen haarg++ # PR#1081
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14:08 metacpan [metacpan-web01] oalders pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/r7icfQ
14:08 metacpan metacpan-web/master a9678e7 Graham Knop: color release name based on release status/maturity
14:08 metacpan metacpan-web/master ff785bd Olaf Alders: Merge pull request #1081 from haarg/colorize-release-status...
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14:08 dipsy [ Comparing 8cf422d90c14...ff785bd455ca · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
14:09 oalders haarg++
14:10 ranguard haarg++
14:10 oalders dev releases are now easy to spot :)
14:11 ranguard That really is cool
14:13 haarg i'm not in love with the colors i picked
14:13 haarg so if someone wants to play with them some that would be nice
14:13 dolmen ribasushi: I created an issue: https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web/issues/1084
14:13 dipsy [ Browse: add space between "Name" and "Documentation" column · Issue #1084 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
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14:26 metacpan [metacpan-web01] oalders pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/WSXcOg
14:26 metacpan metacpan-web/master 807ad8c Graham Knop: use bootstrap styles for browse table
14:26 metacpan metacpan-web/master 8802745 Olaf Alders: Merge pull request #1085 from haarg/browse-table-bootstrap...
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14:26 dipsy [ Comparing ff785bd455ca...88027450ef85 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
14:27 oalders haarg++
14:27 oalders that looks much better
14:28 haarg yay for easy to spin up dev environments
14:29 haarg also yay for Net::Curl::Compat
14:31 haarg WWW::Curl is broken, so i just installed Net::Curl and modified AnyEvent::Curl::Multi to load Net::Curl::Compat early.
15:12 ribasushi haarg: is there a way to have an alttext describing what the color means?
15:13 haarg sure
15:13 ribasushi in general /me thinks that subtle color changes do not mean much
15:13 ribasushi "bars" ala the travis-ci ones with a description what it means alongside the leaderboard score would be much more user friendly
15:13 ribasushi (also sucks for red/green challenged folks)
15:14 ribasushi but this is harder, an alttext will at least be a start
15:15 haarg i think the colors should probably change, i'm just not sure what they should change to
15:22 * ranguard agrees there needs to be a key or icon or something - but this is a great start
15:23 ribasushi if we add clear alttext I fully agree with ranguard  :D
15:24 oalders either that or a highlight of the text rather than changing the font colour
15:26 ranguard oalders: highlight of the text? - as in display: release.status and release.maturity ?
15:27 oalders ranguard: yeah. if it's subtle
15:28 oalders but as mo mentioned, some kind of bootstrap button would work too
15:29 ranguard of status: 'latest','backpan','developer','cpan' - only 'cpan' is a bit tricky to work out what it means
15:30 oalders for these purposes, cpan is maybe not the best name for a status
15:31 rwstauner how about little icons: an old man ???? (for not latest) and a baby ???? (for dev)
15:31 oalders :D
15:31 neilb you could color them in /recent too, that'd be nice
15:32 oalders neilb: good idea
15:32 rwstauner that would be easy if add appropriate classes to the tags
15:32 ribasushi rwstauner: please no cute "what the fuck is this?!" icons
15:32 rwstauner :-)
15:32 neilb riba++
15:32 ribasushi bars+text ftw
15:33 oalders bars?
15:34 rwstauner qrcodes!
15:34 rwstauner "point your phone at this release name to find out what status its in"
15:34 * rwstauner is not being helpful
15:34 * rwstauner is too sleepy
15:35 * ranguard slaps rwstauner about a bit
15:35 ranguard oh, if anyone wants to test our fastly setup... ping b.global-ssl.fastly.net - set that IP in your /etc/hosts file for metacpan.org
15:35 ranguard you should find it a little faster thatn now - and hopefully that's the only thing you'll notice
15:36 oalders yes, that would be really helpful if a few people could test drive it
15:38 ranguard oh, /recent might not work... e.g. https://metacpan.org/release/SYBER/Panda-Date-2.3 isn't marked as 'latest' yet
15:38 dipsy [ Panda-Date-2.3 - fast Date framework in C. - metacpan.org ]
15:38 ranguard ^^ release.status on /recent I mean
15:40 ribasushi oalders: bars as in the lederboard bar, or like the travis/coveralls/etc bars indicating build states
15:40 oalders right
15:41 oalders ranguard: but at least we could flag TRIAL
15:41 oalders and it will never be "backpan"
15:41 * ranguard ndos
15:45 rwstauner https://metacpan.org/favorite/recent that page is messed up for me... there's an "Other" section with "++Leaderboard" that's in the middle, then jumps around if i scroll
15:45 dipsy [ Recent Favorites - metacpan.org ]
15:46 oalders i see that too
15:48 haarg there are two slidepanels
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15:56 metacpan [metacpan-web01] oalders pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/Hm4lOw
15:56 metacpan metacpan-web/master d728765 Graham Knop: fix sidebar on recent favorites page...
15:56 metacpan metacpan-web/master a2ae4ea Olaf Alders: Merge pull request #1086 from haarg/recent-favorite-sidebar...
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15:56 dipsy [ Comparing 88027450ef85...a2ae4ea0ab62 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
16:00 rwstauner haarg++
17:26 oalders haarg: did your commit remove the link to the ++ leaderboard completely?
17:26 oalders oh, i see it's there
17:27 oalders "Popular distributions"
17:27 haarg yep
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18:23 * ether perks up at 'favourite/recent' - very nice!
18:23 ether (minus my alteration of the URL)
18:23 ether sorry, I can't bring myself to spell that word without a u
18:23 ether fingers just won't allow it :)
18:23 ether (can you add that URL too?)
18:25 trs the styling on the dates on that page is screwed up.
18:25 trs February, 2014 6
18:25 ether lots of blank dist names too
18:25 trs because .table th.date and th.number get direction: rtl
18:25 trs which is a visible abuse of direction: ;)
18:26 trs ether: I'll bet the missing dist names are from the ++ bug a day or two ago
18:28 trs also, a.ellipsis guarantees your dist names will be no longer than 160px, unfortunately.
18:28 trs so despite alllll the blank space, it doesn't use it.
18:39 ranguard ether: https://metacpan.org/recent/topuploaders/yearly <- impressive!
18:39 dipsy [ CPAN Top Uploaders - metacpan.org ]
18:40 ether is that for 2014?
18:40 ether or 1 year from today?
18:41 * ranguard shurgs - either way :)
18:41 ether 576 for 2014 seems a bit high :)
18:41 ether but.. \o/
18:41 ether <-- release monkey
18:41 * ether gibbers and reaches for a banana.
18:42 ranguard it's all your cheating uploading T::K as seperate dists :)
18:43 oalders those are relative dates
18:43 ether yeah that certainly added to it for January
18:43 BinGOs it's a sign of not-getting-shit-right-the-first-time
18:44 ether BinGOs: release early, release often? :)
18:45 BinGOs I was being disingenuous
18:45 ether I'll be sure to throw some bar peanuts at you in Lyon then :)
18:45 BinGOs You better be able to throw far.
18:45 ether not coming? :(
18:45 * BinGOs will not be there
18:46 ether :'(
18:46 BinGOs I have no annual leave left.
18:46 trs https://metacpan.org/pod/CPAN::ReleaseHistory is pretty neat
18:47 dipsy [ CPAN::ReleaseHistory - information about all files ever released to CPAN - metacpan.org ]
18:47 BinGOs aka 'holidays' aka 'vacation days'
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18:48 BinGOs I work for teh government, so holiday is called 'leave' and I have 'officer' in my job title.
19:01 * ether salutes
19:18 BinGOs as you were, soldier.
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21:01 metacpan [metacpan-web01] ranguard pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/AWtMlw
21:01 metacpan metacpan-web/master 4c07a82 Leo Lapworth: Add links to Mirrors back
21:01 metacpan metacpan-web/master 33f5e71 Leo Lapworth: Make 'lab' look nicer
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21:01 dipsy [ Comparing a2ae4ea0ab62...33f5e712f729 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
21:15 ether uh oh, getting 502 bad gateway errors
21:17 jnbek I got a 504: Gateway Time-out
21:17 * ranguard is restarting
21:17 jnbek and a refresh threw the 502
21:17 jnbek :)
21:17 ranguard (service rather than machine)
21:19 ranguard back
21:20 oalders ranguard++
21:22 jnbek I'm still having 504s
21:23 ranguard investigating
21:24 BinGOs I see HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway
21:37 ranguard being looked at... update when we have more
21:53 ranguard site back, but might be temporary
22:21 ether still/again 502
22:31 oalders yeah, still trying to figure out what's going on
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23:43 punter metacpan.org doesn't seem to be working
23:43 punter at all
23:43 punter Bad gateway
23:43 haarg it's being worked on
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