Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #metacpan, 2014-02-11

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05:52 metacpan [metacpan-web01] monken pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/DsU5vQ
05:52 metacpan metacpan-web/master dd6474d Graham Knop: format <code> blocks as normal monospace text
05:52 metacpan metacpan-web/master f93fcf2 Moritz Onken: Merge pull request #1095 from haarg/boring-code...
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05:52 dipsy [ Comparing 3ada15beaadc...f93fcf2ae90f · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
05:52 kentnl bah. route to irc.perl.org vanished and irssi pegged itself somehow afterwards :(
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06:02 metacpan [cpan-api01] rwstauner created not-readme-pod (+5 new commits): http://git.io/u9i05w
06:02 metacpan cpan-api/not-readme-pod f648d49 Randy Stauner: Tweak perltidy to drastically reduce my annoyance level
06:02 metacpan cpan-api/not-readme-pod 9be3a95 Randy Stauner: Add files/modules attributes to release test class
06:02 metacpan cpan-api/not-readme-pod 86ce4c8 Randy Stauner: Create a dist to test that README.pod doesn't override...
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06:02 dipsy [ Comparing f648d49fa987^...52c2b054453b · CPAN-API/cpan-api · GitHub ]
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06:02 metacpan [cpan-api01] rwstauner fast-forwarded master from 34a0de4 to 9be3a95: http://git.io/wkvH5Q
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06:02 dipsy [ Comparing 34a0de41784f...9be3a9579717 · CPAN-API/cpan-api · GitHub ]
06:04 haarg rwstauner++ # that's been bothering me for a while
06:05 rwstauner then please comment on https://github.com/CPAN-API/cpan-api/pull/297
06:05 dipsy [ Put /^README.pod$/ at the end of the preference list for associated_pod by rwstauner · Pull Request #297 · CPAN-API/cpan-api · GitHub ]
06:05 rwstauner :-)
06:05 * rwstauner goes to bed
06:10 haarg it seems like giving priority to files with a matching filename could be helpful there.  might fix some other cases like #974.
06:11 haarg like a +5 to rank maybe if the filenames (minus the extensions) match
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13:46 rwstauner yeah i thought something similar (and there is a code comment to that effect)
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13:48 metacpan [cpan-api01] rwstauner pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/9gZNQg
13:48 metacpan cpan-api/master 0580651 Randy Stauner: Bump Test::More prereq to get subtest headings
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13:48 dipsy [ Bump Test::More prereq to get subtest headings · 0580651 · CPAN-API/cpan-api · GitHub ]
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19:54 kentnl see, this is why Changes files should not be written by humans: https://metacpan.org/source/JIPIPAYO/App-Dependencio-0.03/Changes
19:54 dipsy [ Changes - metacpan.org ]
19:55 ribasushi kentnl: not all humans are created equal :D
19:55 kentnl wait till you see 0.04
19:55 kentnl https://metacpan.org/source/JIPIPAYO/App-Dependencio-0.04/Changes
19:55 dipsy [ Changes - metacpan.org ]
19:55 jibsheet some humans are more human than human
19:56 kentnl 2 bugs good, 4 bugs bad.
19:57 kentnl I think he's using dzil style NextRelease .... but entirely missunderstanding how it works
19:58 kentnl ie: has a {{$NEXT}} token which is at the top, ... and then writing the changelog manually after thaat
19:58 ilmari "generated_by" : "Minilla/v0.11.0",
19:58 kentnl https://github.com/jipipayo/Dependencio/blob/master/Changes # Yup
19:58 dipsy [ Dependencio/Changes at master · jipipayo/Dependencio · GitHub ]
19:59 ether Minilla--  # adding more Module::Build to the world, and badly too!
20:00 kentnl Minilla: Cargo Culting made easy :D
20:00 ribasushi must... resist... urge...
20:01 * kentnl 's doge' sense is very much wany tingles. wow
20:01 ribasushi kentnl++
20:01 kentnl how ... how did I write 'wany' instead of 'many'. I don't even.
20:02 avenj http://search.cpan.org/~jipipayo/0.02/
20:02 dipsy [ Daniel Remeseiro / 0.02 - search.cpan.org ]
20:02 kentnl ^ if there's something minilla should have prevented, thats one such thing.
20:02 avenj you would think so
20:11 ether minilla should have generated a Changes file with a <insert your changes information here> line
20:12 ether or even just "Initial release." to start, to demonstrate how it should be used
20:12 ether but really, of all the things wrong with Minilla, this is a minor one :)
20:12 * ether is pretty annoyed about bringing more MB into the world
20:13 ether miyagawa's Dist::Milla is much nicer
20:13 ether as a "default set of configs for Dist::Zilla that doesn't mangle your dist very much and is easy to use if you don't intend to tweak everything obsessively"
20:13 ether <-- obsessive tweaker, so Dist::Zilla works great for me
20:14 ether er, not *that* meaning of tweaker though... ;)
20:14 grantm don't worry, I read it as "obsessive twerker"
20:14 kentnl MooseX::Meth::Od::Heisenberg ?
20:18 * trs likes Milla a lot
20:20 ether :'(
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20:21 kentnl [x] Good Musical Talent [x] Good acting skills [ ] Good distrubtion shipping utility
20:22 ether someone among us has musical talent?
20:22 * ether used to be pretty good at a few instruments (after all music is just math in another form) ;) but cannot sing to save her life
20:23 kentnl pop culture dereferencing error.
20:24 kentnl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milla_Jovovich#Music_career
20:24 dipsy [ Milla Jovovich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]
20:25 kentnl Its extra relevant when you realise .... she did a track with Crystal Method. Heisenberg References x2
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20:51 trs kentnl: no likely milla?
20:51 trs the distribution shipping utility that is
20:56 kentnl being a dzil user, no, not really. I prefer to customize ALL THE THINGS! :D
21:04 ether Milla might be okay if it didn't use Module::Build
21:04 ether er *Minilla*
21:04 ether Dist::Milla is miyagawa's pluginbundle and it's good (and uses MBT)
21:06 trs ether: I actually switch out Milla's default use of MBT for MakeMaker, since it's core.
21:06 ether trs++ # ok, you're forgiven then! :)
21:07 trs note Milla, not Minilla
21:07 trs but milla makes using dzil so much less annoying for someone who doesn't need all that power
21:07 ether ah, so you're using miyagawa's then
21:07 trs and still makes it possible to switch to dzil later relatively painlessly.
21:07 trs yeah
21:08 trs Milla vs. Minilla is so confusing.
21:08 ether *nod, milla just uses Dist::Zilla underneath, making reasonable default choices for you
21:08 trs yup
21:08 trs plus I like that it keeps a Makefile.PL around so installing from git Just Works
21:08 ether that reminds me I need to write a blog post about [Breaks] and [Test::CheckBreaks]
21:09 kentnl I don't crave the power, the power craves me.
21:09 trs that sounds like an in soviet russia joke.
21:10 kentnl Paraphrasing Maralyn Manson on Drugs ;)
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21:18 mst I don't crave the power, it's just really useful for ruthlessly crushing my enemies with
21:35 oalders http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Smirnoff#Russian_reversal
21:35 dipsy [ Yakov Smirnoff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]
21:37 rwstauner oalders is hittin' the sauce
21:37 rwstauner i could use a bit myself
21:37 oalders :)
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21:45 trs oalders: yeah, I've read that page. :)
21:55 * mst has beer
21:58 * trs has no beer :(
21:58 mst it's the last beer in the office
21:59 mst then I'll just have half a litre of vodka left
22:00 trs but I assume a pub is close at hand.
22:01 jibsheet I was about to ask if it was a CAMRA pub, but I have no idea if CAMRA has jumped the shark
22:01 trs I guess the vodka is close at hand and the pub close by foot.
22:04 mst right
22:04 mst once I finish this beer it'll be pub time
22:05 mst the vodka's mostly a metabolism suppressant on all-nighters
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22:24 ether mst++ # pre-beer before beer
22:25 ether another piece of wisdom that I picked up from ActiveState: beer before liquor and you'll never be sicker; liquor before beer and you're in the clear
22:27 mst IME that's because after several beers you overestimate how much liquor you can handle
22:29 * trs has heard s/ and you're in the clear/, never fear/
22:32 mst I tend to find "if you drink spirits without extra liquid, they will hit your bloodstream in blocks" and "there is such a thing as 'too much' alcohol, but sadly once you reach 'enough' you probably won't actually believe that anymore" are the important ones
22:33 jibsheet but that doesn't rhyme
22:34 mst given a choice of priorities between
22:34 mst (1) avoiding waking up in a pool of my own slowly cooling urine
22:34 mst (2) rhyming
22:34 mst I shall take the free verse option, thank you very much
22:40 * ilmari likes a whisky nightcap
22:59 kentnl apparently mythbusters tested that one, but I didn't pay any attention to their poorly concluded outcome that didn't seem very thorough or scientific.

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