Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #metacpan, 2014-05-12

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06:07 metacpan [metacpan-client] mickeyn created mickey/raw_output_mode (+1 new commit): http://git.io/wO7E7g
06:07 metacpan metacpan-client/mickey/raw_output_mode 30c4165 mickey: add support for raw output mode
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06:08 dipsy [ add support for raw output mode · 30c4165 · CPAN-API/metacpan-client · GitHub ]
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13:15 metacpan [metacpan-web] oalders created talina/619 (+23 new commits): http://git.io/RgQwrQ
13:15 metacpan metacpan-web/talina/619 d0466b1 Talina06: Add ElasticSearch::Transport and ElasticSearch::Transport::Curl
13:15 metacpan metacpan-web/talina/619 a767f2e Talina06: Add plussers logic in the pod controller
13:15 metacpan metacpan-web/talina/619 62d7112 Talina06: Add plussers logic to the release controller.
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13:17 metacpan [metacpan-web] oalders pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/U-YhZg
13:17 metacpan metacpan-web/master fbc844c Jeffrey Ryan Thalhammer: Added dependency graph widget (via Stratopan) GH #1168
13:17 metacpan metacpan-web/master c75dedb Jeffrey Ryan Thalhammer: Simpler layout does not require dimensions....
13:17 metacpan metacpan-web/master cef1924 Olaf Alders: Merge pull request #1171 from Stratopan/master...
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15:50 metacpan [metacpan-client] mickeyn pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/-C_Hbw
15:50 metacpan metacpan-client/master f159133 mickey: fix method name in doc
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16:14 metacpan [metacpan-web] oalders force-pushed talina/619 from e0fccbb to 20ee9ed: http://git.io/ATwL1g
16:14 metacpan metacpan-web/talina/619 9353dd6 Andy Jones: Turn `use base $module` into a link to the module
16:14 metacpan metacpan-web/talina/619 65102bf Randy Stauner: Change source urls to use /pod and add comment
16:14 metacpan metacpan-web/talina/619 be2b119 Randy Stauner: Remove old, unnecessary comment about js loading...
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19:37 lifeofguenter has anyone tried creating a debian repo for CPAN - automatically?
19:40 ranguard lifeofguenter: many people :)
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19:42 ranguard lifeofguenter: https://metacpan.org/pod/CPANPLUS::Dist::Deb
19:42 dipsy [ CPANPLUS::Dist::Deb - metacpan.org ]
19:44 ranguard it's actually a hard problem
19:45 ranguard e.g. some packages have the same module so debian wouldn't let you install both
19:53 lifeofguenter thanks ranguard. I played around with dh-make-perl - it is actually already pretty smart as it knows if it can make a arch independent package or not
19:54 leont Dashboard asks for «List all dependencies of a distribution.», but wants you to enter a module name…
19:55 lifeofguenter the only difficulty I had, was that if a package requires a dependency which is not in debian but you would be able to provide over your repository, you will have to do some inversion of dependency
19:55 lifeofguenter and push them all first in your repo before building the next one, so dh-make-perl will be able to work
19:55 lifeofguenter so in short, a little more complicated to fully automatize
19:57 ranguard lifeofguenter: all possible, just time to setup, and crutually deal with each issue... e.g. is it a build issue or a module issue or just env issue
19:57 lifeofguenter I'm guessing http://debian.pkgs.cpan.org/debian is not real?
19:58 ranguard it _was_ in 2009
19:58 lifeofguenter ah ok
19:58 ranguard actually think it was much before that
19:59 ranguard https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=50156 :)
19:59 dipsy [ Bug #50156 for CPANPLUS-Dist-Deb: debian.pkgs.cpan.org not maintained anymore? ]
19:59 lifeofguenter I think it would be interesting
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20:26 leont It's a good idea, but maintaining it after it has been set up is tricky
20:29 lifeofguenter http://perlmaven.com/how-to-fetch-the-cpan-dependency-tree-of-a-perl-module would solve one of the problem.. but true maintaining should be hell.. the problem you couldn't just release every new version, as the new version might break something
20:29 dipsy [ How to fetch the CPAN dependency tree of a Perl module? ]
20:34 leont Dependencies are not a tree
20:35 leont They're a graph, and any reasonable way of thinking about them start with acknowledging that.
20:35 leont Not that I have any idea how to usably present that to an end-user
20:37 lifeofguenter thats true, I don't need it for display, but I would then most probably be able to get an inversion, e.g. start with modules that do not have dependencies and go on
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21:30 ilmari uh, why is there an invisible div+iframe overlaying the middle top of metacpan pages?
21:30 ilmari <div id="dependencies-graph" class="modal fade" style="width:720px; margin-left:-360px">
21:31 oalders that goes along with the dependency graph link, which doesn't seem to be working now
21:43 haarg it doesn't work because it's using http
22:07 oalders haarg++
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22:27 metacpan [metacpan-web] oalders pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/jIZSsA
22:27 metacpan metacpan-web/master 36bff5d Jeffrey Ryan Thalhammer: Use "protocol relative url"....
22:27 metacpan metacpan-web/master 9cb0831 Olaf Alders: Merge pull request #1174 from Stratopan/master...
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22:27 dipsy [ Comparing cef1924b30cb...9cb0831336b9 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
22:29 oalders dependency graphs look good now
23:41 * ilmari is getting the invisible iframe on top of everything else
23:41 ilmari ff (well, iceweasel, because debian) 24.5.0

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