Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #metacpan, 2014-06-25

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11:36 ilmari is there a delay in metacpan picking up new authors?
11:37 ilmari the author link in https://metacpan.org/release/REZNIKOV/Async-Chain-0.04 is broken (no <a> content, href 404s)
11:37 dipsy [ Async-Chain-0.04 - The right way to convert nested callback in plain struct or just - metacpan.org ]
11:37 ilmari 11:52  * GumbyPAN welcomes REZNIKOV - Антон Резников to CPAN!
11:37 ilmari 12:32  * GumbyPAN CPAN Upload: Async-Chain-0.04 by REZNIKOV
11:39 ilmari all of the authors welcomed by gumbypan at 11:52 (UTC+1) 404 on metacpan
11:39 ilmari REZNIKOV, FLOBOG, GURISUGI
11:49 ranguard ilmari: https://metacpan.org/recent/log might help (you have to wait a moment for it to load)
11:49 dipsy [ Indexer Log - metacpan.org ]
11:51 ranguard ilmari: I think one of the scripts runs every 30 mins (has been discussion of it being more often) so maybe wait an hour
11:56 ranguard does seem a bit dodgy though, never seen this happen, but guess we don't get new authors THAT often either
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12:45 ranguard oalders: ^^ ?
12:45 ranguard rwstauner: ^^ ?
12:46 oalders i saw this recently with another author
12:47 oalders i'm re-indexing the authors right now. we'll see if that helps
12:48 oalders nope
12:50 oalders ok. so none of the above authors are in authors/00whois.xml
12:50 oalders how often does that file get updated?
13:27 oalders ilmari: looks like the author info is only updated daily by PAUSE (via conversation with BinGOs)
13:27 ranguard ick
13:28 oalders so, maybe the PAUSE folks can run that cron a little more often
13:32 oalders i've opened an issue https://github.com/andk/pause/issues/123
13:32 dipsy [ Updating authors/00whois.xml more frequently · Issue #123 · andk/pause · GitHub ]
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14:10 trs alternatively, when we see an upload by an author we don't know about, we can create a stub author document with just the name and fill it in later.
14:11 oalders that's a good stopgap
14:11 oalders and maybe necessary even if the cron runs more frequently
14:11 trs there will always be a race condition
14:11 oalders ideally that file would just get updated when the author is added
14:11 oalders yeah, if it's a cron there will always be a race condition
14:12 trs does 00whois.xml get triggered from metacpan watcher or something else?
14:13 trs I suppose we could do that, but author runs are fairly expensive as they currently stand, I'd bet.
14:13 oalders i did an author run this morning and it felt like maybe a minute that it ran
14:13 trs a stub + fill in later is easier and simpler than queueing the tarball for later.
14:13 trs ahh, ok.
14:13 oalders yeah, we don't want to queue the tarball
14:13 oalders we're all about speed :)
14:14 trs so I'd say a) author stub or b) do an author run on 00whois.xml change from rrr-client.
14:17 oalders well, we still probably need both
14:17 oalders unless PAUSE moved from a cron to an immediate update for that file
14:17 trs ah, right.
14:17 trs I guess I was assuming immediate update for rrr to work.
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14:36 rwstauner wow, shutterstock is well represented at yapc
14:38 rwstauner wow, and they use a lot of languages
14:39 rwstauner wow, that statement was ambiguous
14:39 rwstauner all of their talks have been about internationalization and localization, but i meant their job openings, which include node, java, perl, php, ruby
14:40 haarg rwstauner: are you at yapc?
14:41 rwstauner youtube.com/user/yapc
14:41 haarg ah
14:41 rwstauner na
14:42 * rwstauner tries again, actually copy/pasting this time: youtube.com/user/yapcna
14:45 jibsheet speaking of author info and timeliness, the question of module versions on rt.cpan.org showed up and I realized I might be able to watch metacpan for 'new release' faster than we get it in 02packages
14:47 ether jibsheet: if you're interested in a user-oriented feed of new releases, there is the #cpantesters channel that announces them all
14:49 jibsheet ether: in this case, I want a programmatic feed I can pump into rt.cpan.org
14:49 jibsheet an irc channel is not really what I want
14:50 ranguard jibsheet: https://metacpan.org/pod/MetaCPAN::Client#recent maybe of use
14:50 dipsy [ MetaCPAN::Client - A comprehensive, DWIM-featured client to the MetaCPAN API - metacpan.org ]
14:51 * ether wonders what is powering the Gumbynet announcements on irc
14:51 jibsheet ether: I assume most people parse the pause incoming dir listing or something, which was something else I considered
14:52 jibsheet ranguard: that looks potentially very interesting, thanks for the pointer
15:19 trs jibsheet: metacpan watches an rrr-client, which is a ~realtime rsync
15:20 trs it looks for tarballs and doesn't wait for 02packages.
15:20 trs but importantly doesn't authorize anything until 02packages.
15:21 jibsheet *nod*
15:21 trs there's also a ~realtime pubsub feed somewhere.
15:21 trs that various services use.
15:21 jibsheet is the pubsub feed authed?
15:21 trs nope
15:21 jibsheet ok
15:22 trs http://friendfeed.com/cpan
15:22 dipsy [ CPAN - FriendFeed ]
15:22 trs used by twitter.com/cpan_new
15:22 trs https://github.com/punytan/cpan_new
15:22 dipsy [ punytan/cpan_new · GitHub ]
15:22 trs also only uploads, not an indicator of authorized release.
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