Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #metacpan, 2014-09-08

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02:24 metacpan [metacpan-web] oalders pushed 8 new commits to master: http://git.io/2SF7ng
02:24 metacpan metacpan-web/master 61746ae Gabor Szabo: Perlybook integration
02:24 metacpan metacpan-web/master 8ab9d45 Gabor Szabo: switch to link, add icon, add title
02:24 metacpan metacpan-web/master 056ded4 Gabor Szabo: remove one icon
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02:30 metacpan [metacpan-web] oalders pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/Pif6TQ
02:30 metacpan metacpan-web/master f0e064a Gabor Szabo:  use localStorage instead of cookies for show/hide of TOC
02:30 metacpan metacpan-web/master 65f1a53 Olaf Alders: Merge pull request #1330 from szabgab/szabgab/cookie-to-localstorage...
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02:31 metacpan [metacpan-web] oalders pushed 6 new commits to master: http://git.io/jKW1Xg
02:31 metacpan metacpan-web/master 2df6c0f Gabor Szabo: test if html files have <style> or <script> tags inline
02:31 metacpan metacpan-web/master 2b1caf4 Gabor Szabo: use the modules without eval '' and clean up perl-critic
02:31 metacpan metacpan-web/master 467f56b Gabor Szabo: capture <script type=.. as well
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02:33 metacpan [metacpan-web] oalders pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/rng3rg
02:33 metacpan metacpan-web/master 467a286 Gabor Szabo: show/hide right panel
02:33 metacpan metacpan-web/master 586e696 Gabor Szabo: use localStorage instead of cookies
02:33 metacpan metacpan-web/master 2ff4847 Olaf Alders: Merge pull request #1308 from szabgab/hide-right-panel...
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12:01 Farow I can't see any of the modules I have ++'d on my favorites list.
12:09 ranguard Farow: https://metacpan.org/about/faq#whycantilinkmypauseaccount - and https://metacpan.org/about/faq#stillhaveproblemsfavoritesnotdisplayingonauthorpage
12:09 dipsy [ MetaCPAN About - metacpan.org ] [ MetaCPAN About - metacpan.org ]
12:12 Farow I don't even have a pause account.
12:12 ranguard then look at the 2nd bit :)
12:13 ranguard it's usually confustion if you've used github and twitter to login or something like that
12:13 ranguard if none of those help please open a ticket: https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web
12:13 dipsy [ CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
12:16 Farow I looked at the second bit and most of the discussion seems to be about pause and asking for pause ids.
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12:31 ranguard Farow: new ticket then please :)
13:00 haarg i don't really get the motivation for the toggle on the right panel
13:01 haarg in addition to it being really ugly and being implemented badly
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14:21 oalders haarg: if you've disabled the TOC then you don't win too much unless you also hid the panel on the right
14:21 oalders as for the implementation, that can be improved
14:21 oalders anyway, you don't get feedback on this kind of thing unless you deploy it
14:22 oalders then you get a pretty good sense of whether it was a good idea
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14:22 haarg well, the implementation i don't really care much about.  it's more than i can't see a good way to make it not ugly.
14:23 haarg i don't quite get your first point
14:24 oalders well, essentially it gives you a way to declutter the page and get a wider SYNOPSIS
14:24 oalders having it on the right there is maybe not a good place for it
14:24 oalders but it just mimics what was already in place on the left
14:24 oalders so i get that it might be useful to some people
14:25 oalders it's just a matter of getting the UI right
14:25 haarg how useful is that though?  we can already have it be responsive to page width.
14:25 oalders it does look a bit cleaner to me in some cases
14:25 haarg the ui could be hidden in the left sidebar like the toc toggle used to be
14:26 oalders but the real point is that you don't get the most useful feedback on this stuff until you deploy it
14:26 oalders when i ask for comments on tickets, some of them just get ignored
14:26 haarg sure
14:26 oalders when i push something to production i get immediate feedback
14:26 oalders so that's essentially what's happening here
14:26 haarg this is me giving my feedback :)
14:27 oalders see, it works :)
14:27 haarg feedback: i think it is ugly and i would prefer if it went away
14:27 oalders noted!
14:27 oalders you could actually note that on the original issue if you like
14:28 haarg although it does point out that we aren't handling it very well for narrower displays, at least until you get into mobile range
14:29 haarg hiding the right sidebar at 700-800px width would seem reasonable to me
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16:35 metacpan [metacpan-web] haarg pushed 5 new commits to master: http://git.io/iNtXxw
16:35 metacpan metacpan-web/master 04831c0 Graham Knop: don't force contents below right sidebar when too wide
16:35 metacpan metacpan-web/master 372e600 Graham Knop: correct trigger position for fixed sidebar
16:35 metacpan metacpan-web/master 8150935 Graham Knop: use fixed width icons on right sidebar
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16:35 dipsy [ Comparing 2ff484721d8a...9ba83e30a6cb · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
16:56 ether did the download links for distributions (the "Download" link in the left sidebar) just change from http to https?
16:56 ribasushi ether: metacpan has been https for a long time...
16:57 ribasushi if you ask for http:// it auto-redirects
16:57 oalders i think the download links changed a week ago
16:57 ether huh weird, I don't remember App::cpanminus::reporter complaining previously about not being able to send a report after a direct download
16:57 ether it doesn't like the https scheme, but I was sure I was sending reports from ad hoc downloads in the past.
16:57 oalders https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web/pull/1293
16:57 dipsy [ use https for all cpan.metacpan.org links by haarg · Pull Request #1293 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
16:58 * ribasushi stands corrected
16:58 oalders :)
16:59 ether I could have been crazy, but thankfully not this time :)
17:00 * ether files a request with App-cpanminus-reporter.
17:00 ranguard we did change the backend to cpan.metacpan.org on Friday, but sounds unrelated?
17:01 ranguard the certs wouldn't have changed
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17:43 haarg ribasushi: http://i.imgur.com/DbuMpCc.png is this along the lines of what you were thinking?
17:44 ribasushi haarg: yes, but on all pages and follows-scroll
17:45 haarg i'm still not sure about promoting irc over everything else, and i'm not sold on the positioning, since it's kind of positioning in the "site" area of the page
17:45 ribasushi haarg: also oiami was looking into it I think
17:45 ribasushi haarg: well - this is something that needs to be duked out ahead of time (the promotion of IRC)
17:46 ribasushi perhaps the ticket is a better place for this discussion to happen
17:46 ribasushi (I said what I have to say, don't have much to add)
17:46 haarg following scrolling will need js unfortunately instead of being doable in just css
17:46 haarg well, i wanted to make sure i was understanding what you were requesting
17:48 ether what ticket?
17:48 ether IMO I'd just use the link in the left sidebar
17:49 haarg https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web/issues/1235
17:49 dipsy [ Encourage IRC paticipation via "Chat with the maintainers" or somesuch · Issue #1235 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
17:50 ribasushi ether: https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web/issues/1235#issuecomment-54737869
17:50 dipsy [ Encourage IRC paticipation via "Chat with the maintainers" or somesuch · Issue #1235 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
17:50 ribasushi (this particular comment)
17:50 ribasushi this is not a service for the echo-chamber, this is squarely aimed at outsiders who "can't do IRC"
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17:57 metacpan [metacpan-web] haarg pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/8OMP5Q
17:57 metacpan metacpan-web/master 12baed2 Graham Knop: revert part of 372e60 to improve responsive display
17:57 metacpan metacpan-web/master 73bcbad Graham Knop: when done showing toc, return it to dynamic height
17:57 metacpan metacpan-web/master 663747a Graham Knop: don't expand contents box vertically when not needed
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17:57 dipsy [ Comparing 9ba83e30a6cb...663747a91fe1 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
18:00 ether ribasushi: yes, I can't imagine any of us opting for a web irc client in most situations :)
18:00 ether although it could be darned handy when using a tablet or something
18:01 ribasushi aye
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