Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #metacpan, 2014-09-09

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00:51 jnbek any metacpan devs present?
01:02 ether probably sleeping
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01:15 haarg jnbek: depends on what you are asking about
01:16 jnbek well, I'm curious about the ++ feature, I have a PAUSE account, but when I click on ++ it adds my like to the non-pause user section. I've given my PAUSE id, and stuff, though I have no modules/distributions uploaded, yet...
01:18 haarg did you link your pause account to your metacpan account?
01:18 jnbek yes
01:18 jnbek well, I think so
01:19 haarg https://metacpan.org/about/faq#whycantilinkmypauseaccount this may be helpful
01:19 dipsy [ MetaCPAN About - metacpan.org ]
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01:37 jnbek haarg: ahh, there we go
01:37 jnbek thanks
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14:18 osfameron on the "chat with maintainers" thing, where does the metadata for that come from?
14:18 osfameron e.g. which nick / chatroom to point them to
14:18 ribasushi osfameron: per dist
14:18 ribasushi http://grep.cpan.me/?q=file%3AMETA.json+%28%3Fi%3Ax_irc%29
14:19 dipsy [ file:META.json (?i:x_irc) · CPAN->grep ]
14:19 ribasushi osfameron: that's also why it doesn't render on all dists (not all have the meta)
14:20 osfameron ah.  so it doesn't come from POD
14:20 * osfameron has to look at his authoring setup at some point...
14:21 ribasushi osfameron: anything coming from POD would be at best a shitty heuristic ;)
14:21 osfameron doesn't look like  Module::Install has a way to set an irc field
14:22 ribasushi orly? https://metacpan.org/source/RIBASUSHI/DBIx-Class-0.08270/Makefile.PL#L19
14:22 dipsy [ Makefile.PL - metacpan.org ]
14:23 ranguard so 90 distributions (currently) would get this 'chat'
14:30 osfameron ribasushi: ok, it's not documented how to do that on https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Module-Install/lib/Module/Install.pod
14:30 dipsy [ Module::Install - Standalone, extensible Perl module installer - metacpan.org ]
14:36 haarg https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Module-Install/lib/Module/Install/API.pod#resources-Module::Install::Metadata
14:36 dipsy [ Module::Install::API - Command Reference for Module::Install - metacpan.org ]
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15:41 miyagawa https://gist.github.com/miyagawa/6d1eadf7d08725723e06
15:41 dipsy [ gist:6d1eadf7d08725723e06 ]
15:41 miyagawa it seems either module.authorized doesn't do what i mean
15:41 miyagawa or indexer doesn't take 06perms seriously
15:42 miyagawa given that https://metacpan.org/release/GMARLER/App-cpanminus-1.7006 shows unauthorized, the latter is unlikely to me
15:42 dipsy [ App-cpanminus-1.7006 - get, unpack, build and install modules from CPAN - metacpan.org ]
15:45 miyagawa hrm nevermind, the search is working fine, but it returns "App-cpanminus-1.7006" as a release key, and then /release/ API doesn't take authority into considerations
15:45 miyagawa known issue i guess.
15:46 miyagawa http://api.metacpan.org/v0/release/_search?source=%7B%22filter%22%3A%7B%22term%22%3A%7B%22release.name%22%3A%22App-cpanminus-1.7006%22%7D%7D%2C%22fields%22%3A%5B%22download_url%22%2C%22stat%22%2C%22status%22%5D%7D
15:47 dipsy urgh. long url. Try http://tinyurl.com/op94psn
15:49 oalders hmmm. is that a known issue?
15:50 oalders rwstauner: ring any bells?
15:54 miyagawa i think it's a known issue on metacpan in general
15:54 miyagawa where the release key doesn't include author ID
15:57 oalders miyagawa: not sure i understand. release.author is not what you need?
15:59 miyagawa maybe
16:04 miyagawa oalders: https://github.com/miyagawa/cpanminus/issues/405
16:04 dipsy [ PAUSE author being ignored when to look for specific version on MetaCPAN · Issue #405 · miyagawa/cpanminus · GitHub ]
16:04 miyagawa like this? https://github.com/miyagawa/cpanminus/commit/503e1339acc76b0c223dd208b29bbeffe6a43c8f
16:04 dipsy [ use module.author to search for release.author when to look for releases... · 503e133 · miyagawa/cpanminus · GitHub ]
16:13 rwstauner oh interesting.  so not something that happens a lot (two authors uploading the same tarball) but that makes sense
16:14 miyagawa yeah
16:14 miyagawa oalders: is the patch what you mean by release.author?
16:17 oalders miyagawa: right
16:18 miyagawa is it a fair assumption where module.author and release.author are always the same value?
16:18 oalders yes
16:18 miyagawa kk
16:18 oalders they're just included in both cases to avoid the extra lookup
16:19 miyagawa it needs the lookup still
16:19 miyagawa because i don't know if it is .tar.gz
16:20 miyagawa (i mean, to build the distfile path)
16:22 oalders yeah, i just meant that if all you needed was author it saves the extra lookup in other cases
16:22 oalders denormalization
19:02 Mithaldu haarg: JS is not needed to get a follow element: http://codepo8.github.io/css-fork-on-github-ribbon/
19:02 dipsy [ Pure CSS responsive "Fork me on GitHub" ribbon ]
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22:20 haarg Mithaldu: it can't be all the way at the top
22:20 haarg it needs to be mixed fixed/absolute like the left sidefbar
22:21 Mithaldu at the risk of being stupid, ribasushi, haarg: what do you think about the lower right corner?
22:22 Mithaldu the end goal here is not to occupy a specific corner, but to make it unmissable
22:22 ribasushi never seen it done before, dunno why, so can't comment what it'd look
22:28 haarg http://i.imgur.com/7yeZZCr.png
22:29 Mithaldu maybe not black as that makes it kind of look like a funeral thing, but i'd say that's acceptable :)
22:31 haarg i'm not much of a designer - suggest a color and i can try it out
22:31 haarg or hell, play with it yourself: https://github.com/haarg/metacpan-web/tree/irc-ribbon
22:31 dipsy [ haarg/metacpan-web at irc-ribbon · GitHub ]
22:32 Mithaldu gimme a sec
22:33 haarg it's based on that link you gave, so it turns red on hover right now since that was the default
22:34 Mithaldu haarg: #3366CC
22:34 Mithaldu that's the metacpan link color
22:35 Mithaldu and that fits in fine to my eye
22:37 ribasushi I think its annoying at the bottom, as it hides a lot of info away (there seems to almost always be empty real estate on top)
22:38 ribasushi oiami's banner-type thing as opposed to a ribbon may be a better choice to fit above the gravatar...
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22:38 Mithaldu ribasushi: then you'll need to play with things, as that will probably require js
22:39 ribasushi I am just braindumping given what I've seen on the "bottom mockup"
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