Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #metacpan, 2014-09-15

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03:10 metacpan [metacpan-web] haarg pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/LUHL2A
03:10 metacpan metacpan-web/master b98b459 Graham Knop: less pointy stars, closer to older shape/color
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03:10 dipsy [ less pointy stars, closer to older shape/color · b98b459 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
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03:38 metacpan metacpan-developer/master 7f5bd6c Randy Stauner: Use suffixed elasticsearch service if present
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03:38 dipsy [ Use suffixed elasticsearch service if present · 7f5bd6c · CPAN-API/metacpan-developer · GitHub ]
04:13 oiami can we still use /bin/prove t to run the test? I guess we had some changes about these thing recently , right ?
04:13 oiami I got this error https://gist.github.com/oiami/72e2977cd42730a84b7a
04:13 dipsy [ ./bin/prove t error ]
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04:46 rwstauner that's a good question
04:46 rwstauner i just got my new vm going and haven't figured that out yet
04:59 oiami do I have to import new VM too ?
04:59 oiami I heard that we have new VM but haven't used it
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07:04 metacpan [metacpan-web] haarg pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/D9MLmg
07:04 metacpan metacpan-web/master 8280600 Graham Knop: aggressively compress all pngs
07:04 metacpan metacpan-web/master d00fd8d Graham Knop: remove accidentally introduced toc alignment setting
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10:38 ribasushi repeating myself as connection went crazy
10:38 ribasushi <ribasushi> morning
10:38 ribasushi <ribasushi> is there any special handling of AUTHORS or somesuch within metacpan?
10:38 ribasushi <ribasushi> haarg: ^^
10:38 ribasushi <ribasushi> ranguard: ^^
10:38 haarg in what way?
10:39 dipsy in what way are they broken
10:39 ribasushi the way it looks at Changes e.g.
10:39 ribasushi or to rephrase - do we have a definitive list of which files we consider special and treat in some way
10:40 haarg ah, a file
10:40 ribasushi yes sorry
10:46 haarg changes is parsed for the display on the dist page, and there is a list of 'interesting' files that gets shown
10:47 ribasushi haarg: where is said list?
10:47 ribasushi and is Changes the only thing parsed, or are there others?
10:47 haarg https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web/blob/master/lib/MetaCPAN/Web/Model/API/Release.pm#L312
10:48 dipsy [ metacpan-web/Release.pm at master · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
10:49 haarg there isn't anything else that is parsed, at least not like changes is
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12:41 metacpan [metacpan-web] oalders pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/4G9lnQ
12:41 metacpan metacpan-web/master e3f97ca Gabor Szabo: show the lates revision, the same as the /author/  pages does
12:41 metacpan metacpan-web/master 5d5336c Gabor Szabo: show also the unauthorized distributions
12:41 metacpan metacpan-web/master a7f9e1a Olaf Alders: Merge pull request #1350 from szabgab/szabgab/dashboard...
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12:44 metacpan [cpan-api] oalders force-pushed oalders/06perms from 3aec64f to 490b168: http://git.io/TfaCGw
12:44 metacpan cpan-api/oalders/06perms 490b168 Olaf Alders: Adds permissions type for 06perms.
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15:23 ribasushi mcpan.org expired :((((
15:47 oalders ouch
15:47 oalders i thought we were moving that over to TPF
15:47 oalders dpetrov_ ^^^
15:48 BinGOs bumbling amateurs
15:48 oalders oh, wait. we did move it to TPF
15:48 oalders Registry Expiry Date: 2018-10-11T13:21:16Z
15:49 oalders ranguard: any ideas?
15:50 oalders it's pointing at 23.235.33.143
15:51 BinGOs which is fastly
15:51 oalders ah
15:51 BinGOs the unknown domain message is coming from there, presumably because that particular domain has not been configured(?)
15:52 oalders yep. i don't see an entry for it on the configure page
15:53 oalders wait, it's there
15:53 oalders is the issue that there is no hostname?
15:54 oalders http://search.mcpan.org seems fine
15:54 dipsy [ Search the CPAN - metacpan.org ]
15:55 oalders ribasushi: false alarm?
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16:39 ribasushi oalders: ah
16:40 ribasushi oalders: this made me think otherwise, indeed false alarm: http://mcpan.org/
16:40 ribasushi so it's not expired but instead broken
16:40 ribasushi the use case before was: you get to any SCO page say http://search.cpan.org/~ribasushi/DBIx-Class-0.08270/lib/DBIx/Class.pm
16:40 dipsy [ DBIx::Class - search.cpan.org ]
16:40 oalders what's the use case for mcpan.org without a hostname?
16:41 ribasushi one could s/// the  http://search.  part with m, to arrive at mcpan.org/~ribasushi/DBIx-Class-0.08270/lib/DBIx/Class.pm
16:41 oalders ribasushi: s/cpan/mcpan/
16:41 ribasushi this used to work, it doesn't anymore
16:41 oalders i wasn't aware that it worked before without the hostname, actually
16:41 ribasushi oalders: it was less typing before ;)
16:41 oalders inserting one char isn't less typing? :)
16:42 oalders having said that, if we can support both, we should
16:42 ribasushi oalders: grab mouse, click at the dot, drag without care outside the window, type m, type enter
16:42 ribasushi but yes - I didn't know s.mcpan.... worked
16:42 ribasushi so will retrain to use that ;)
16:43 oalders heh
16:43 ribasushi in fact it likely did not work at first when I started using it
16:44 * ilmari just put /etc/hosts entries for search.cpan.org and cpansearch.perl.org
16:44 ilmari hm, 46.43.35.68 is bm-n1.metacpan.org.
16:44 ribasushi why would I do that - I like sco better still
16:44 ilmari mcpan.org resolves to something completely different
16:44 ribasushi metacpan has better linking to share for others though
16:44 ribasushi :)
16:44 ether whoa, major font change
16:45 ether and my author page has many layers of text all on top of each other
16:45 ether broken css?
16:45 oalders haarg ^^
16:45 ilmari ether: looks good to me
16:45 ribasushi https://metacpan.org/author/ETHER <--- this looks just fine here too
16:46 dipsy [ Karen Etheridge (ETHER) - metacpan.org ]
16:46 ilmari ether: try force-reload?
16:46 haarg it looks fine here.  maybe a caching issue?
16:46 ether hmm, /author/ETHER looks ok, but this does not: https://metacpan.org/author/ETHER?sort=[[2,1]]
16:46 dipsy [ Karen Etheridge (ETHER) - metacpan.org ]
16:46 ether I've force-reloaded several times
16:47 ribasushi still looks good here :(
16:47 haarg looks identical
16:47 ilmari looks fine here. check for errors in your browser's console?
16:47 ribasushi ether: which browser?
16:47 ether firefox 28.0
16:48 ether otherwise known as the "the last release before they fucked everything up"
16:48 haarg which everything?
16:48 ether wha.. 10th reload was the charm.
16:48 ether caching indeed.
16:48 ribasushi prolly fastly being a dunce
16:48 ether like some crucial bit of code didn't get loaded until way late
16:49 haarg the css generally shouldn't suffer from caching issues since it's content addressed
16:50 haarg but maybe one of the files was failing to load
16:51 ether the fonts actually look the same as before, except they're now one size larger than before.
16:51 * ether banged on cmd - and things are back to normal
16:55 haarg yeah, there have been a number of minor font size changes
16:57 haarg the fonts should be more consistent between the syntax highlighted parts and other monospace sections, with hopefully a better font selection for linux machines.
17:16 ether haarg: firefox 29 changed how tabs and menu items were displayed, which broke a bunch of extensions that I use (e.g. Tab Mix Plus)
17:16 haarg ah
17:16 haarg i had forgotten which version changed that
17:17 ilmari ether: tree style tab still works :)
17:17 ether I currently have a firefox window with 8 rows of tabs in it.
17:17 ether it looks like a grandmother's botnetted IE
17:17 ether i used to display up to 3 rows, scrolling, but I recently changed the settings to show them all as a way to shame myself to cut back
17:18 haarg the number of times firefox has "fucked everything up" is rather large, i never know which one people are referring to
17:19 ilmari widescreen have more horizontal than vertical real estate, so I prefer tree style tabs on the right
17:19 ilmari s/^\w+/$& monitors/
17:24 ranguard ilmari: search.cpan.org and cpansearch.perl.org you will need to change to our new IP (NOT fastly) once we've got the setup fully
17:25 haarg i just use the default tabs.  eventually i have enough open that navigating becomes painful, so i close all of them and go from there
17:25 ranguard ribasushi: sorry, I didn't know mcpan.org worked, it wasn't documented - will try sort in anycase
17:25 ribasushi ranguard: meh, I never knew search.mcpan... worked so it's a wash
17:26 ribasushi ranguard: the error it gives however is... unsettling (which is why I gave the false alarm originally)
17:26 ribasushi I suspect if I am using it, so is someone else out there ;)
17:27 ranguard ahh, I see, I did point the DNS at fastly (just changed all records), but didn't actually set it up on fastly, just *.mcpan.org
17:29 ranguard ribasushi: yes, though I would appreciate you stop bad mouthing fastly, every issue has related to our servers or my bad config, they have worked 100% of the time as far as I am concerned
17:29 ranguard they have made this migration to new servers VERY easy for the domains we put through them
17:30 ranguard and more importantly, the roll back when it didn't work took 30 seconds
17:30 ranguard http://mcpan.org/~lbrocard/Data-Page-2.02/lib/Data/Page.pm <- now works
17:30 dipsy [ Data::Page - help when paging through sets of results - metacpan.org ]
17:30 ribasushi ranguard: my badmouthing of fastly is squarely about their 80/20 approach to actual requests
17:31 ribasushi just chalk it up to me being a grumpy asshole who likes working things, instead of shiny exciting things, and ignore my ravings ;)
17:31 ranguard ribasushi: fastly do what our config tells them, so again probably my bad configs
17:31 ranguard ok :)
17:32 ribasushi ranguard: serving partial bytestreams (when downloading tarballs) is not something you caused with a config
17:32 ranguard http://www.fastly.com/customers/ <- not just some fad :)
17:32 dipsy [ Customers | Fastly - The Next Gen CDN ]
17:33 * ranguard thinks that was V.V. old nginx not playing nicely, which ultimatly is our end not fastlys, anyway, it's all software - hence it sucks
17:34 ranguard we're now on ngin 1.6.1
17:34 ribasushi ranguard: 80/20 is the new fad itself, which keeps me perpetually grumpy
17:35 ranguard what's 80/20?
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17:36 ribasushi ranguard: "worse is better", reliability taking backseat to usability, things like that
17:37 ranguard ahh, sure
17:38 ribasushi 80/20 in this context referring to "if it works for 80% of the use cases all the time - fuck the fringe users" ;)
17:38 ribasushi and because "worse is better" is giving me a mini-seizure every time I need to type it in full
17:38 ribasushi :D
17:39 ilmari aka the Pareto Principle
17:40 ilmari https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle#In_software
17:40 dipsy [ Pareto principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]
17:40 * ranguard goes back to the JFDI principle and gets on with moving sites around before they turn off the current MC box
17:46 ribasushi rwstauner: poke poke ;)
17:55 rwstauner regarding what?
17:55 rwstauner that irc ribbon pr?
17:56 ribasushi rwstauner: yessir, supposedly blocks on your review
17:56 ribasushi rwstauner: no hurry, you just never chimed in on the discussion, wasn't sure you're reading it
17:56 rwstauner yeah, i saw the email, thanks
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19:03 dp_ there might be something broken with viewing source
19:03 dp_ Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'children' of undefined 960c9fde98621de9a197d76c8c4f5942.js:801
19:04 dp_ and now you can't click on a line number for example https://metacpan.org/source/RIBASUSHI/DBIx-Class-0.08270/lib/DBIx/Class.pm
19:04 dipsy [ lib/DBIx/Class.pm - metacpan.org ]
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19:22 rwstauner we did update the syntaxhighlighter, so there might be some usage we need to adjust
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19:28 rwstauner i wonder if it's just firing too early
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19:53 oalders i had some issues with line numbers today as well, but i just thought the file was too big
19:58 dp_ it happens on small files as well
20:00 dp_ https://metacpan.org/source/IONCACHE/DBIx-Class-AuditLog-0.6.2/lib/DBIx/Class/AuditLog.pm
20:00 dipsy [ lib/DBIx/Class/AuditLog.pm - metacpan.org ]
20:00 dp_ everywhere
20:13 oalders yeah, that's a problem
20:14 oalders dp_: could you open an issue?
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20:35 dp_ oalders: sure
20:36 jnbek seems the 'size' chooser isn't working, I choose 500 on the Recent list and it refreshes, but does not show any more than the default list of 100
20:39 oalders default should have been 20, though
20:48 jnbek oalders: ehh, it's using 100 for me
20:48 jnbek even without the size get arg
20:49 oalders jnbek: it's in your local storage then (the default)
20:49 jnbek hrm, interesting
20:50 oalders i haven't actually counted the results, but when i try 500 it feels like it's returning a lot :)
20:50 oalders oh, wait
20:50 oalders you're talking about recent
20:51 jnbek ya
20:51 oalders i guess gabor didn't touch those results with this change
20:51 oalders jnbek: could you open an issue?
20:51 oalders or fix, if you feel so inclined :)
20:51 jnbek I manage 800 Perl module pkgbuilds for Arch Linux AUR, so I spend A LOT of time on the Recent page. :D
20:51 oalders heh
20:52 jnbek I can open an issue, if i had the time to look, I'd probably take a crack at fixing it
20:52 oalders yeah, that should be an easy fix
20:52 oalders i'm sure we can get it cleared up quickly
20:52 jnbek k, give me a few moments, I'm at work and have a server to fix; then I'll get that issue opened up
20:53 jnbek thanks oalders
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20:53 oalders jnbek++
20:59 jnbek https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web/issues/1356
20:59 dipsy [ The size modifier on the Recent page does not work properly. · Issue #1356 · CPAN-API/metacpan-web · GitHub ]
20:59 oalders jnbek: thanks!
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