Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #metacpan, 2016-03-05

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01:56 metacpan [metacpan-web] oalders pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v2buy
01:56 metacpan metacpan-web/master 305c115 Olaf Alders: Merge pull request #1654 from CPAN-API/oalders/upgrade-catalyst...
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02:24 metacpan [cpan-api] oalders created oalders/upgrade-catalyst (+2 new commits): https://git.io/v2b2n
02:24 metacpan cpan-api/oalders/upgrade-catalyst 7e72e59 Olaf Alders: Upgrade Catalyst from 5.90011 to 5.90103
02:24 metacpan cpan-api/oalders/upgrade-catalyst 114caef Olaf Alders: There is no longer a stash() accessor.
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02:30 metacpan [cpan-api] oalders pushed 2 new commits to oalders/upgrade-catalyst: https://git.io/v2baG
02:30 metacpan cpan-api/oalders/upgrade-catalyst 28472b2 Olaf Alders: Make Devel::Confess available when running tests.
02:30 metacpan cpan-api/oalders/upgrade-catalyst 766150a Olaf Alders: Don't try to stash undef values.
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09:01 ranguard oalders++
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14:11 ranguard neilb: I forgot to mention the 50 or so 'wishlist' items here: https://github.com/CPAN-API/cpan-api/wiki/Wishlist
14:13 ribasushi ranguard: risking to start an argument (which I really am not aiming for) the way you bulk-close things *explicitly* filed as wishlist is... offputting
14:14 ribasushi the reporter already thought through something, and put the effort to write it up in a non-cryptic manner
14:14 ribasushi closing things with "if you want to see this - redo the work elsewhere" serves nothing but to deter me from engaging with metacpan in the future
14:15 ribasushi I am not saying this reaction is universal, just adding the data point
14:25 ranguard ribasushi: Don't mean to put you or anyone off, I'll add a link to the ticket from the wishlist for you
14:28 ribasushi ranguard: the exact wording in my mailbox was "No action has happened, do add to the wishlist if you want it still listed as something that could be worked on", which implied "this is it"
14:28 ribasushi if that's just miscommunication - I retract my complaint ;)
14:32 ranguard ribasushi: to be honest I didn't understand how the ticket could be fixed from haarg's comment, it didn't seem a "simple improvment" and so didn't know how important it was, was going on the premis that if you cared (which you obviusly do) you'd add it to the wish list
14:34 * ranguard is trying to balance having a good place for discussions (tickets) but also keeping the list managable... which was why we wrote https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md - but then don't want to get draconian about enforcing that, as discussions are better in issues
14:35 ranguard if we had active contributers that were fixing this sort of thing it would be very different
14:35 ribasushi ranguard: perhaps peruse the new githiub templating functionality to add a header "did you search in the wishlist" when one navigates to https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web/issues
14:36 ranguard ribasushi: woo, nice idea
14:36 ribasushi ranguard: CONTRIBUTING.md only shows a reminder when one is to do a PR
14:36 ribasushi extra datapoint - I had no idea there was a "wishlist" link in CONTRIBUTING
14:36 ranguard https://github.com/CPAN-API/metacpan-web/issues/new (it's linked at the top, but I get people miss it)
14:37 ribasushi that's actually relatively new, but anyway - it being visible on the "issue list" will be an improvement: most reporters I know do search for "prior stuff"
14:39 * ranguard agrees
16:49 xdg FWIW, there are issue templates on GH now.  Good place to note "Don't file wishlist issues; put them [url]"
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17:26 ranguard xdg: that was ribasushi's suggestion - i'll sort tonight
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18:54 haarg ranguard: fwiw i've never been a fan of closing issues in an attempt to keep things managable
18:56 haarg i'd rather tag them appropriately and leave them open
19:08 ranguard haarg: the main issue is no one ever cleans them out, even when they are fixed or not relevant
19:10 ranguard for this project, being clear something needs fixing (rather than wishlist) is more important than anything else (sonwhen we do get someone offering to help it is easy to see what needs doing)
19:11 ranguard at lease IMHO
19:12 ranguard at least closing them gets people thinking about fixing them ;)
19:13 ranguard even if we have to re-open (which i am all for when it is needed)
19:30 haarg really seems like something better handled by tags
20:26 ranguard haarg: ok, I'll leave to others to do that
20:28 leont github's tracker really lacks a priority field :-/
20:28 ilmari you can fake it with labels, I guess
20:30 leont Barely
20:30 leont Things like "sort by priority" can be really useful
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