Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #metacpan, 2017-08-16

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15:53 mst hey, you can't generate mibbit links from IRC metadata, they made dickheads of themselves over on freenode so half the channels won't work
15:53 mst needs to either generate a freenode webchat link for freenode, or maybe switch entirely to kiwiirc
15:54 mst ... ok, apparently it does use freenode and I just got a mis-report
15:54 mst kiwiirc is really nice though
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15:54 haarg web irc links can also be specified in metadata
15:55 oliver haarg: see the IRC spec in https://github.com/netdisco/netdisco/blob/master/Build.PL
15:55 mst this is bork
15:55 mst "x_IRC" : "irc://irc.freenode.org/#netdisco",
15:55 mst but https://metacpan.org/pod/App::Netdisco links https://chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23netdisco&server=irc.freenode.org
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15:58 metacpan [metacpan-web] haarg created haarg/freenode-irc-tld (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v7Nz2
15:58 metacpan metacpan-web/haarg/freenode-irc-tld 328217f Graham Knop: also check freenode.com and freenode.org when generating irc links
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15:58 Grinnz aha
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15:58 metacpan [metacpan-web] haarg merged haarg/freenode-irc-tld into haarg/use-future: https://git.io/v7NzV
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15:59 haarg hrm.  got my remote config messed up.
15:59 oliver haarg: thanks :-)
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15:59 metacpan [metacpan-web] haarg merged haarg/freenode-irc-tld into master: https://git.io/v7NzQ
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16:00 metacpan [metacpan-web] haarg deleted haarg/use-future at 328217f: https://git.io/v7NzA
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16:00 metacpan [metacpan-web] haarg deleted haarg/freenode-irc-tld at 328217f: https://git.io/v7NzA
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16:03 haarg https://metacpan.org/about/metadata#irc for how we use x_IRC
16:04 haarg if there is a better client we could use, we could certainly change it.  mibbit was the commonly used one at the time i wrote the code.
16:04 oliver haarg: oh okay, thanks. it's not clear why I'm using IRC and not x_IRC, but the implication is that I should switch to x_IRC.
16:05 oliver perhaps something to do with Module::Build
16:05 Grinnz oliver: correct, the key is x_IRC
16:05 Grinnz oliver: it looks like M::B is changing it to x_IRC anyway
16:05 oliver Grinnz: okay
16:05 Grinnz https://github.com/netdisco/netdisco/blob/master/META.json#L658
16:05 haarg it gets converted to x_IRC by the meta 1.4 -> 2 upgrade
16:06 oliver magic
16:06 Grinnz ahh, it was IRC in 1.4
16:06 Grinnz that makes more sense than M::B magically gaining features
16:06 haarg https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/CPAN-Meta/lib/CPAN/Meta/History/Meta_1_4.pod#resources
16:07 oliver haarg: mst suggested kiwiirc instead of mibbit, which I may use anyway now I know I can specify a web url myself.
16:07 haarg it was upper case for custom fields in resources in 1.4
16:08 haarg 1.4 didn't have a generic way to add custom bits like x_ in meta 2, although in practice x_ works fine in meta 1.4 at least at the top level
16:08 Grinnz https://kiwiirc.com/embedding
16:09 Grinnz looks like you can make a kiwiirc link as https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.server.net/#channel
16:13 haarg is freenode on any other TLDs?
16:14 oliver yeah, I should've been using .net anyway acording to the freenode docs :-/
16:14 oliver https://freenode.net/kb/answer/chat
16:14 Grinnz it certainly doesn't advertise any others, so i think .com and .org are enough to cover accidents
16:14 ilmari .com redirects to .net, but .org doesn't
16:14 ilmari (on https)
16:14 Grinnz ilmari: it does for me
16:15 ilmari Grinnz: huh, it does for me too now
16:15 ilmari odd
16:15 Grinnz flaky dns maybe

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