Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #metacpan, 2017-09-02

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05:39 kentnl haarg: Mithaldu, I'm just gonna me-too on that Opera-Fail, I use it periodically when I just want to not have a bloated browser turning my CPU fan into a screaming banshee for a single-page instead of my usual 100 page sessions. But alas, can't use metacpan today.
05:39 Mithaldu kentnl: enable tls 1.2
05:39 kentnl I have :/
05:40 Mithaldu restart the browser?
05:40 Mithaldu it works for me
05:40 Mithaldu or check that you have all the ciphers enabled under details too
05:40 kentnl oh, even the Anonymous and 0-bit ones?
05:41 Mithaldu although i did observe one time that a page refused to load for no discernable reason, maybe some unreliability
05:41 Mithaldu kentnl: i did not look at specifics, all i know is i have checkmarks everywhere
05:41 kentnl hm, yeah, seems anon/0-bit were required
05:42 Mithaldu or it required some uncaching
05:42 Mithaldu only thing i don't have on is ssl3
05:42 Mithaldu and i see no anonymous or 0-bit ciphers in the list
05:42 Mithaldu are you on linux?
05:43 kentnl yes.
05:43 Mithaldu that might be the difference then
05:55 kentnl ugh. Since last time I used travis on opera, its stopped working entirely.
05:56 Mithaldu travis is not a website, it's an app :)
05:57 kentnl I have a few other choice descriptors I could use. :)
05:57 Mithaldu app is derogatory :D
05:58 kentnl "Single Page Bloat Factory"
06:00 Mithaldu kentnl: did i show you the "open current page in other browser" buttons?
06:00 kentnl probably, but that's not something that interests me right now. The reason I used opera is because I don't actually want the "other browser" open right now :/
06:01 Mithaldu alright
06:01 kentnl unless I find myself yet-another-browser that I can use instead. Gonna have to go bush to find something useful.
06:02 kentnl Irony: on alternativeto.net ... looking for "alternatives to opera" in opera. There's an Ad.
06:02 kentnl For Opera.
06:02 Mithaldu you mean chromera
06:02 kentnl Yeah. But still.
06:03 Mithaldu i know, it is silly :)
06:04 Mithaldu i just refuse to call a chrome clone with a differnt coat of paint, that belongs to a chinese malware company, "opera"
06:04 kentnl its not till you have no ad block that you realise how scummy ads are. Reasonably popular software website. Literally a half a dozen fake "Download" buttons that are actually ads.
06:04 Mithaldu opera has fine adblock tho :)
06:04 Mithaldu and yes
06:04 Mithaldu the web is a tragedy
06:08 kentnl its shit like this that just makes me want to go and do anything else. But like, its like saying I'm going to breathe something other than oxygen because somebody made it have >10ppm sulphur dioxide
06:15 * Mithaldu shrugs
06:15 Mithaldu you got your gas masks
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09:07 nicomen did you guys check out Vivaldi?
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10:02 Mithaldu vivaldi is the chrome core with a gui written in javascript on top
10:02 Mithaldu it can't handle any sort performance intensive tasks, like closing tabs quickly or switching between tabs quickly
10:13 nicomen never noticed that
10:13 nicomen closing a tab is instance, so is switching between those
10:13 nicomen *instant
10:13 nicomen my 70+ tabs seems to work ok
10:14 nicomen but of course nothing beat Presto-Opera in that sense ;)
10:14 Mithaldu last time i tried: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqvSc3_RZTo
10:15 nicomen that's Opera
10:15 Mithaldu yes, read the title
10:15 nicomen wow it was really slow
10:16 nicomen two years ago?
10:16 nicomen did they even finish the final version at that time?
10:17 nicomen for me the video is either run on a really slow computer, or the vivaldi version must be an early beta
10:17 Mithaldu holding down ctrl+t still freezes the gui
10:17 Mithaldu Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2760QM CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2401 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
10:17 nicomen lol, true
10:17 nicomen good thing that's something noone needs
10:18 Mithaldu and closing tabs also takes at least a full second
10:18 nicomen closing a tab here is done instantly
10:18 Mithaldu and switching between tabs is with right-click + scroll is also still slow
10:18 nicomen both middle-mouse or via menu
10:19 Mithaldu anyhow, i don't really care, if it's fast enough for you, yay
10:19 Mithaldu for me it's unusably slow
10:19 Mithaldu and if i'm gonna use chrome, i might just as well use the real thing
10:21 nicomen What do you use that is faster?
10:21 nicomen Firefox halts on over 5 tabs open
10:21 Mithaldu opera 12 for anything good, and chrome for shitty sites like twitter
10:21 nicomen ah ok, yeah I stuck around with opera 12 for a long time too
10:22 Mithaldu since i have buttons to open any page in another browser there's no reason to use another one as my core browser
10:22 nicomen sure
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15:09 omega nicomen: I've had 250+ tabs open in firefox with 0 problems, so I'm not sure how you can have problems with 5...
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21:53 ether I have hundreds of tabs open across several firefox windows
21:53 ether occasionally there is a redraw issue with a plugin I use to make tabs span multiple rows, but no performance issues
21:54 ether I used to have a memory leak on my work machine with OSX 10.8 which made me restart firefox every day to reclaim swap, but I upgraded to 10.12 and that went away
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