Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #moarvm, 2013-06-14

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00:07 kbenson diakopter: re perl5 to build, I was in here a while back talking about this (not that you should consider that as a reason to listen to me), and my main thought was what if someone wants moarvm to get a p6 and p5 at the same time, through use v5.
00:07 kbenson diakopter: then it's a chicken/egg type problem
00:08 kbenson diakopter: but I wasn't thinking of libperl embedding, which is a good point, especially if that's considered the "best" way to access p5 from p6.
00:09 kbenson diakopter: If prelbrew worked in windows, that would be simple and awesome.
00:37 tokuhirom hmm. i got a "Makefile:345: *** missing separator.  Stop." again.
00:38 sorear tab/space confusion?
00:38 tokuhirom maybe.
00:38 tokuhirom ah, it's my mistake.
00:38 tokuhirom sorry.
01:02 diakopter kbenson: yep, libperl is the plan
01:03 diakopter for truly awesome DWIM, we'll also use FROGGS' use v5 grammar as part of that
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05:41 Jimmy__ jnthn: ping, plz take a look at https://gist.github.com/zhuomingliang/5779687, thanks :P
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06:50 FROGGS r: say "".IO.^methods
06:51 FROGGS nvm :o)
06:51 FROGGS morning btw
06:53 sorear o/
06:57 Jimmy__ afernoon :P
06:58 FROGGS :o)
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08:33 dalek MoarVM/container: 15a1e63 | jimmy++ | src/core/coerce.c:
08:33 dalek MoarVM/container: small refactor in coerce.c
08:33 dalek MoarVM/container: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/15a1e63c0c
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11:30 JimmyZ good evening, #moarvm
11:31 lizmat good afternoon, JimmyZ !
11:32 JimmyZ lizmat: good afternoon :P
11:33 sorear o/
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11:43 sorear o/ colomon
11:43 colomon \o
11:44 colomon just realized I hadn't set this channel up to auto-load when I start my IRC client.  :)
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11:48 lizmat welcome colomon!
11:50 colomon o/, lizmat
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14:16 dalek MoarVM/container: 72e2b13 | jimmy++ | src/6model/containers. (2 files):
14:16 dalek MoarVM/container: complete container config
14:16 dalek MoarVM/container: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/72e2b13798
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16:11 dalek MoarVM/container: f075035 | jimmy++ | src/core/hll.c:
16:11 dalek MoarVM/container: remove reduplicative type checking
16:11 dalek MoarVM/container: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/f075035622
16:14 dalek MoarVM/container: 80305d7 | jimmy++ | src/core/hll.c:
16:14 dalek MoarVM/container: better msg in hll.c
16:14 dalek MoarVM/container: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/80305d7cfc
16:40 diakopter BinGOs: ping
16:48 BinGOs diakopter: ?
16:54 diakopter BinGOs: hi. wanted to ask you (or anyone suitable) if you could help me out with a moarvm branch I'll be pushing sometime in the next couple weeks
16:54 diakopter specifically, it's configured to link against libperl in a very specific configuration only - activeperl on a specific path
16:54 diakopter (because I haven't researched how to do it cross-platform)
16:55 diakopter so, it'll need a couple things:
16:55 diakopter 1. make it able to link to libperl on the other platforms currently "supported" - *bsd/darwin, linux
16:56 diakopter 2. configure script should set it up to link to libperl by default if it finds it, but also expose a command line flag to disable that if someone wants.
16:58 diakopter 3. if the configure script doesn't find an appropriate perl installation, provide instructions (or even automation!) to download/install an appropriate one for the platform, or prompt to do it itself if it detects it's running as root on a platform on which it knows how to use a system package manager.
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16:59 diakopter BinGOs: so basically I'm just asking if anyone thinks they would like to and be able to do that sometime in the next month or two
16:59 BinGOs I don't tend to (knowingly) build with a shared libperl
17:00 BinGOs I also don't claim any competence in these matters.
17:00 diakopter ok. I wasn't looking for commitment to do it, just possible expectations. :)  thanks though
17:01 BinGOs I can test on my smörgåsbord of virtual machines
17:02 BinGOs http://paste.scsys.co.uk/255367
17:02 diakopter oh, I might as well mention the other related-ish things I want to hopefully farm out this summer
17:02 diakopter wow.. lots.
17:03 diakopter I can't remember - did someone make the configure handle solaris?
17:04 diakopter anyway, the other things:
17:05 diakopter er, brb
17:05 BinGOs I had a look at the configuration for solaris with the sun cc last night.
17:06 BinGOs My knowledge of the correct compiler switches is limited, but I cargo-culted something that produced a 'moarvm' that exploded with an illegal instruction error when I ran it.
17:07 diakopter hee
17:07 diakopter at least it didn't format your partition
17:07 * diakopter hopes
17:07 benabik Huh.  I think I have access to some Solaris machines.
17:07 BinGOs and then I turned off the vm
17:07 BinGOs because "if at first you don't succeed. give up"
17:08 benabik Okay, technically I have access to a Sun Java Enterprise System
17:08 BinGOs I powered on the OmniOS vm, but then promptly forgot why I had, and ended up just updating the modules in my smoker perl on that box
17:09 BinGOs I have to ship a new version of ExtUtil::MakeMaker this evening.
17:09 benabik Urg, but it has so few tools available.  I'd have to start by building git.
17:10 BinGOs I'm provisioning a FreeBSD-10.0-CURRENT (amd64) vm at the moment.
17:10 diakopter does github have a 'tarball of latest master' option?
17:11 BinGOs I thought they only did that for tags
17:11 diakopter oh
17:12 BinGOs but those crazy hipsters may have come up with something else since I last looked.
17:15 BinGOs https://www.kernel.org/pub/softwa​re/scm/git/docs/git-archive.html # might help
17:16 * benabik supposes he could git-archive Parrot, NQP, and Moar.
17:16 benabik If I get spare time, I might try.  Have family stuff this weekend.
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