Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #moarvm, 2014-02-27

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00:48 Topic for #moarvm is now https://github.com/moarvm/moarvm | IRC logs at  http://irclog.perlgeek.de/moarvm/today
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10:05 dalek MoarVM/string_pressure: 421d5fd | (Timo Paulssen)++ | src/ (6 files):
10:05 dalek MoarVM/string_pressure: allocating lots of string buffers can now cause GC
10:05 dalek MoarVM/string_pressure: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/421d5fd8ea
10:05 dalek MoarVM/string_pressure: 6463edb | (Timo Paulssen)++ | src/gc/ (2 files):
10:05 dalek MoarVM/string_pressure: relieve pressure in the gc instead of allocated_string
10:05 dalek MoarVM/string_pressure: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/6463edbdae
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16:39 jnthn rurban: Was it you who suggested me as a mentor on http://wiki.enlightenedperl.org/gsoc2014/ideas for "Fix NQPLexPad for parrot threads"?
16:40 jnthn Either way, anybody whose registered there, plesae remove me.
16:40 jnthn Woulda been polite for whoever did it to ask.
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16:59 rurban sorry
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17:03 rurban yes it was me. you are the only one I could think of as you wrote this part
17:04 rurban And it would be beneficial, because you still fail to see why lock-less parrot threads scale better than locking moarvm threads
17:11 jnthn Your ignorance is utterly astounding. :/
17:11 jnthn station &
17:12 timotimo rurban: fwiw, forcing (or "encouraging", depending on your interpretation of what you did) jnthn to mentor a project for that won't necessarily make him change his mind in your favor either way
17:21 rurban I just wrote: Possible mentor
17:21 rurban Because I cannot think of anyone else.
17:21 rurban But I forgot to ask, yes
17:22 timotimo ah, i think possible mentor is more like "a student can choose from these mentors"
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17:42 [Coke] At this point, we're at "people who are willing to mentor a student"
17:44 [Coke] Looks like it's been removed. Danke.
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17:53 [Coke] regarding the actual work of getting rakudo-parrot to implement the concurrency stuff, I think there's enough in place now for someone to try it out - we have a working set of code running on rakudo-jvm, so we have a good idea of what we want it to look like from that end. someone "just" needs to wire the rakudo end into the parrot end.
17:53 [Coke] I believe that work has already started on moarvm.
17:54 timotimo we've already started parallelism stuff on moar, aye
18:10 rurban so who is willing to mentor for nqp-p?
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18:17 FROGGS rurban: you are talking about "Fix NQPLexPad for parrot threads" ?
18:19 rurban yes
18:20 rurban this is really a perl6 issue, not parrot
18:22 [Coke] You'll get a slightly better response in #perl6 rather than #moarvm
18:31 TimToady Mebbe.  I gave up predicting what people would do a long time ago...  :)
18:34 [Coke] looking at https://github.com/perl6/nqp/issues/67 and at the nqplexpad class in nqp, I have no idea what needs to be done.
18:35 [Coke] (which only tells me I ain't the guy to work on this, at least right now)
18:51 rurban that's why I said only jnthn could help, realistically
18:51 FROGGS rurban: I would like to mentor it, but at the same time I fear I'm unable to do so
19:15 TimToady rurban: the pragmatics problem here (quite apart from the technical issues) is that you gave the /appearance/ of trying to guilt-trip jnthn into helping with something that is *way* down on his list of priorities, and most of the jnthns I know don't respond well to that sort of approach
19:16 TimToady and you kinda ignored the fact that this particular jnthn has developed a bit of an allergy for parrots, so has to avoid 'em, or he starts to sneeze
19:17 TimToady so realistically, no, jnthn can't help
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20:48 masak rurban: some tips for next time you are interested in getting someone's help: saying "because you still fail to see why [I'm right about something and you are wrong]" hasn't been known to make someone *more* eager to pitch in, ever.
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20:49 masak rurban: it would have antagonized jnthn to helping you if he, you know, wanted to in the first place.
20:51 masak rurban: it's nice to see you here on this channel, but it tends not to be full of people convinced of Parrot's superiority in the threading department. ;)
21:30 rurban hey, I wanted to attract help for you. I don't really care for rakudo nor nqp that much
21:31 rurban well, I decided to stay quiet on diakopters famous claims when he made them. It was just too off. the parrots threads author should have defended it
21:32 rurban but, in summary, it's nonsense.
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