Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #moarvm, 2014-05-30

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03:14 TimToady m: say *.foo ~~ Callable
03:14 camelia rakudo-moar 851811: OUTPUT«True␤»
03:14 TimToady [Coke]: ^^
03:15 TimToady WhateverCode does not propagate through ~~
03:16 TimToady (on either side, or you couldn't do $string ~~ *.chars either)
03:17 TimToady the ~~ operator is special; it's really just a very small given/when sort of thing
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12:48 brrt hi #moarvm
12:48 timotimo hey brrt!
12:48 timotimo nice to see you again :)
12:48 brrt :-)
12:49 timotimo i was recently quite surprised to see that the midterm evaluations are almost just around the corner
12:49 brrt i should've been here a bit more, shouldn't i
12:49 brrt really?
12:49 brrt :-o
12:49 brrt ow
12:49 timotimo 4 weeks
12:49 timotimo my perception of time is ... interesting :)
12:49 brrt i've been preoccupied by finishing my 'research course'
12:49 brrt well, 4 weeks is fast, i grant you that
12:49 timotimo that's probably all right
12:51 brrt how's moarvm been?
12:54 [Coke] https://github.com/cosimo/perl6-lwp-simple/issues/30
13:02 brrt oh
13:08 brrt i kind of need to get myself a new computer
13:09 FROGGS famous last words *g*
13:12 brrt well, or continue working on an 2010 eee pc
13:12 timotimo oh, ouch :)
13:14 brrt it works
13:14 brrt acceptably
13:15 brrt but newer would probably be better :-)
13:18 * timotimo hasn't been putting work into moarvm recently :(
13:18 FROGGS heh, that seems like you will be your best user when the JIT is going in :o)
13:18 FROGGS timotimo: me neither
13:18 brrt my personal, non-public aim is: an mp3 player in perl6
13:18 brrt ought to be doable, right?
13:20 brrt /me afk
13:21 timotimo depends on whether or not you want to do the decoding in pure perl6 :)
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18:26 brrt if its not in perl6, why bother :-)
18:32 lizmat feels to me that that would be an excellent JIT opportunity !
18:32 lizmat and if that works, why stick to mp3, why not go mp4 all the way  :-)
18:32 TimToady or mp5 even
18:33 brrt mp5 isn't a thing, is it?
18:33 tadzik in military it is
18:34 lizmat we used to have S5 in the Dutch military
18:34 lizmat it meant you would qualify as a Perl programmer
18:35 brrt seriously? i'm amazed
18:35 TimToady brrt: it isn't a think YET!  you need to invent it...
18:35 brrt the dutch military trained perl programmer?
18:35 brrt s
18:35 TimToady *ing
18:36 brrt :-) the name will be claimed soon enough i think
18:36 brrt maybe for the h265 codec
18:36 lizmat brrt: S1 meant you were mentally very stable...  :-)
18:36 brrt oh i see
18:36 brrt :-D
18:36 brrt weird
18:37 TimToady the ones you put on your nuclear subs, eh?
18:37 brrt the dutch military emphatically does not have nuclear subs
18:37 brrt couldn't pay for it if they wanted, probably
18:37 TimToady yes, but it's still true that all your nuclear subs are staffed by S1
18:38 TimToady s/your/their/ as necessary
18:38 TimToady but you do have a .nl address
18:39 brrt i'm dutch, yes :-)
18:42 brrt TimToady - not according to classic syllogistics, because the term 'all dutch nuclear submarines' is empty :-)
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19:29 brrt question - why are operations like goto, if, unless, etc. in MoarVM gc sync points?
19:35 lizmat because they (can) enter new scopes ?
19:52 brrt i guess
19:53 brrt can i take the moment to show my appreciation for the code quality in moarvm?
19:53 lizmat jnthn would know for sure, but he's on Quality Time with his family, afaik
19:53 brrt well, thats a good idea for everyone, of course :-)
19:53 lizmat glad to hear you like the code quality  :-)
19:54 lizmat .oO( haven't added / changed a single byte in that repo, afaik )
19:54 lizmat looking forward to seeing some high quality code being added :-)
19:54 brrt huh, can't promise high quality on the first run
19:54 brrt :-)
19:59 brrt although one can postpone merging until quality is good enough
19:59 lizmat I think the only way to find out about the quality, is to do it in HEAD
20:00 lizmat only when you increment MOAR_VERSION in nqp, and NQP_VERSION in rakudo, will Perl 6 actually see what you're doing
20:00 lizmat and the sooner we find out about problems, the better
20:01 brrt thats true
20:01 brrt i'm not yet sure about how to represent JIT-ed code and how to explicitly test for it
20:02 brrt short of entering puts("ENTERING JIT...") in every routine
20:05 lizmat macro?
20:06 brrt hmm yes
20:07 brrt i still want to figure out exactly how to access structs with dynasm
20:15 brrt afk, see you tomorrow
20:15 lizmat brrt: sorry, can't help you with that.  maybe nwc10 can?
20:15 brrt i'll ask arround :-)
20:15 brrt thanks
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