Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #moarvm, 2014-10-21

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13:52 jnthn Earlier today, the machine hosting moarvm.org was victim of an attack that drew it into a botnet, and so was promptly taken offline. Typical that it happens while I'm on vacation. On the upside, it happened on an afternoon that was rainy and miserable enough that I was indoors anyway :)
13:53 nwc10 this is also why your IRC client went away?
13:53 jnthn Yup.
13:53 nwc10 suck.
13:53 jnthn Anyway, that + moarvm.org are now running off a nice new thingy.
13:54 nwc10 excellent
13:54 jnthn Modulo DNS migration.
13:54 nwc10 with a pony?
13:54 jnthn (Didn't actually have to change name servers, just records.)
13:56 brrt wow man, that sucks
13:59 * jnthn just remembered there's a moarvm.com too, and re-poined that :)
13:59 jnthn uh, pointed
14:04 jnthn Other thing is that I'd had a "re-do all this infrastructure" plan figured out and waiting on free time.
14:05 jnthn Guess part of it happens early...
14:06 moritz jnthn: in the long run, IWBN if you weren't the only one who can upload moarvm releases
14:06 moritz jnthn: bus factor and all that
14:07 jnthn moritz: Yeah...crossing the road here in .my is a little hair-raising...
14:08 jnthn ;)
14:08 jnthn but yeah, I'll set something up "in the long run"
14:08 jnthn (Hopefully not so long.)
14:09 nwc10 jnthn: I thought it was bad enough in Salzburg when the trolleybus swooshed by
14:09 nwc10 (just when I was thinking of crossing the road, and hadn't looked)
14:09 moritz has anybody tried the new github releases thingy?
14:09 moritz (not so new anymore, I guess...)
14:11 [Coke] TROLL BUS
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15:46 timotimo moritz: you mean the thing that constantly sends users our way with tarballs that don't work? :)
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16:04 moritz timotimo: no, that's downloading tarballs for a tag
16:04 moritz timotimo: releases are also tied to a tag, but allow uploading of other binaries, iirc
16:06 timotimo oh
16:06 timotimo that wouldn't be too bad
16:44 [Coke] lots of moar failures on today's run, differences between jit and not
16:46 * timotimo updates his 8 months old local checkout of roast-data
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17:37 hoelzro is there any possiblity of reverting that lazy deserialization stuff?
17:37 hoelzro at least until it's determined what the problem is and it can be fixed?
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18:25 timotimo it's probably possible
18:27 timotimo it might be easier to just put a "'lazily' deserialize everything right at the beginning" in, though
18:27 brrt :-o [Coke] that's worrisome
18:28 hoelzro timotimo: I, in my Moar ignorance, tried that, and made it segfault =/
18:28 hoelzro but someone moar experienced with the inner workings of Moar (and in particular serialization) may have better luck with that
18:28 timotimo oh, huh
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20:36 timotimo brrt: ISTR you said something about potentially building a set-removal kind of thing based upon PHI?
20:36 timotimo that was quite some time ago, though
20:36 brrt let me think
20:38 timotimo that might really be worth something
20:39 timotimo especially if it just relies on what the phi ops do already
20:39 timotimo like, after a set, two registers are "merged", kind of like what a PHI signifies
20:40 timotimo but i'm not sure if spesh can already handle PHI that are not at the beginning of a BB
20:40 brrt phi's are always at the beginning of a bb :-)
20:42 timotimo at the moment, sure
20:42 timotimo but if we replace set instructions with phis, they may no longer be.
20:43 timotimo except if we just add more sources to the phi ops that belong to blocks we jump to from the block we're doing the set-removal in at that moment
20:51 brrt okay, the truth of it is, i don't know if we can do that yet :-) that problem seems hairier to me now than it did then
20:51 brrt but that may just be an indication of my head being a bit removed from it
20:57 timotimo OK
20:57 timotimo hey
20:57 timotimo so now that we can enter jitted code easily on moarvm
20:57 timotimo ...
20:57 timotimo Inline::ASM? :D
20:59 timotimo especially with NSA that could be cool
21:00 lizmat ah, the days I could just hex code into a buffer and have it execute by just doing "asmcall" on it
21:00 timotimo :D
21:04 [Coke] I remember the days when I'd key in a dozen pages of hex code from a magazine to get a crappy C64 game.
21:04 timotimo :D
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21:07 brrt sleep well #moarvm
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