Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #moarvm, 2014-11-10

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02:47 Topic for #moarvm is now https://github.com/moarvm/moarvm | IRC logs at  http://irclog.perlgeek.de/moarvm/today
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06:20 JimmyZ https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/gkrichar/papers/onward2013-wuerthinger-truffle.pdf # Something about VM optimization, hopes someone  may like it .
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07:27 jnthn timotimo: Which benchmark is it?
07:28 jnthn Having a lot of static frames in the nursery sounds very odd, yes
07:28 jnthn Is that on first collection, though?
07:28 jnthn Or a later one?
07:29 FROGGS morning
07:30 FROGGS jnthn: we really need to do something about 32bit machines :o) - http://testers.perl6.org/dist/NativeCall
07:30 FROGGS (where 'we' really is you *and* me hopefully)
07:31 jnthn cpan - da testers! :D
07:32 FROGGS cpan date sters!
07:32 FROGGS :P
07:32 FROGGS the page even would be fast if I'd precompute more things
07:35 jnthn And yeah, agree...
07:36 FROGGS but... IIRC the NSA will be involved here?
07:36 jnthn No, I don't think it needs to be
07:36 FROGGS cool
07:37 FROGGS I guess it is just a tiny change that'd make x86 work...
07:37 FROGGS but I already tried and failed twice :o)
07:38 jnthn OK. I need to go to do some urgent but boring paperwork at the office...I'll have some tuits later in the day, and can take a look.
07:39 FROGGS ahh, no hurry
07:39 FROGGS just wanted to do some conversation :D
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07:40 jnthn .oO( ♬ A little less conversation, a little moar action please ♬ )
07:40 FROGGS hehe
07:41 jnthn hah, that's the same song that uses the word "satisfactioning" :)
07:42 jnthn NSA is something I plan to dig into soon, though. Hopefully starting this week. :)
07:42 jnthn commute &
08:00 nwc10 jnthn: NSA before NFG?
08:11 TimToady there's some chance NSA will be useful to NFG, and no chance of the reverse
08:11 FROGGS *g*
08:12 FROGGS TimToady: I always imagine you speaking these sentences with a slow dark voice coming from the off :o)
08:12 FROGGS (except when I don't)
10:37 timotimo jnthn: that's the "for native postinc"
10:37 timotimo and that was in one of the later collections
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11:34 jnthn timotimo: hm, wtf...
11:35 timotimo yes, my thoughts exactly :)
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11:46 FROGGS jnthn: before I forget: there is something to review in case you are in the right mood this week: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/compare/sepsh
11:47 FROGGS jnthn: I don't consider it mergeable btw
11:47 FROGGS I just wanna talk about it to get insights
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12:26 timotimo hmm. perhaps the fact that the code got OSR'd is somehow related to the massive build-up of MVMStaticFrames?
12:26 brrt \o
12:26 timotimo perhaps a frame that results from OSRing doesn't get cached? instead it gets recreated each time the osrpoint gets hit?
12:27 brrt that'd be a bug
12:27 timotimo yeah
12:27 timotimo just a theory i made up
12:28 timotimo i don't actually know how the OSR mechanism is implemented exactly
12:28 brrt basicaylly, by sp ops iirc
12:28 brrt which are compiled into labels, iirc
12:28 timotimo well... that's pretty much a no-explanation :P
12:28 JimmyZ I know how it triggers
12:33 brrt i'm sorry timotimo :-)
12:35 timotimo brrt: how about that blog post? :3
12:35 brrt :-$
12:35 timotimo i hope you've been all right
12:35 brrt yes... just incredibly busy and barely finished my last trimester
12:35 timotimo OK
12:36 brrt :-)
12:36 timotimo you want me to mention anything you'd like to do this week?
12:36 brrt (motivation to study is diminishing, though)
12:36 timotimo in the weekly post, i mean
12:36 brrt no, not yet :-)
12:36 timotimo aaw
12:36 brrt there will be enough weeklies
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