Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #moarvm, 2015-04-01

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07:47 brrt \o
07:49 brrt uhm, i have two more questions regarding my hague-grant-application
07:50 brrt one: suppose my requested amount exceeds what is available, that doesn't mean automatic denial, right?
07:51 brrt two: if i ask considerable less than the nominal maximum (which i've seen no-one do in earlier hague grants), does that come off like i don't know what i'm doing?
07:51 brrt i feel like it might
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08:33 nwc10 brrt: I assume that it doesn't mean "automatic denial" because there are other funds. But if so, it would need the TPF board to decide to allocate them
08:33 brrt ok, right.
08:33 nwc10 (if it excedes all of TPF's unassigned money, you are straight out of luck)
08:33 brrt well, the thing is this
08:34 nwc10 I don't know, and you may not want to say this on a logged channel
08:34 brrt i can live with less than the total nominal amount. i did just fine with that last year
08:34 brrt right
08:34 nwc10 you are, however, a student currently, and I assume making student-like trade offs with your cost of living
08:36 nwc10 I hope you're not planning to be a student forever :-)(
08:36 nwc10 I really should give up today
08:37 nwc10 there's something massively wrong with my typing
08:37 * nwc10 goes to the coffee machine
08:37 brrt i will probably be a student only for this and the next academic year
08:42 brrt and next academic year will be spent writing theses :-)
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09:12 brrt btw, i did finally figure out how to deal with jit-to-jit calls
09:12 brrt the inter-jit calls can be very funky
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12:49 timotimo funky
12:49 timotimo so ... i was wondering
12:50 timotimo do we perhaps need some mechanism that waits with speshing frames that refer to other frames so that we have maximum chance of inlining?
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16:33 brrt \o
16:33 brrt if you're going to do that, why not go all the way to tracing
16:34 timotimo hmm, right
16:34 timotimo we've already got that planned anyway
16:36 brrt :-)
16:36 brrt many plans
16:37 timotimo indeed
16:37 timotimo many exciting things on the horizon
16:39 jnthn Drive by comment (heading to dinner very soon), but...
16:40 jnthn We already 1) have small frames (those that are small enough to inline) have the lowest threshold, and 2) we spesh as we return down the call stack, meaning that we'll often have hit the callee and specialized it prior to specializing the inliner.
16:40 jnthn That's why it hangs off exit
16:41 timotimo oh, that's a neat trick
16:41 timotimo i hadn't realized that
16:41 timotimo very cool :)
16:41 jnthn yes, I was happy when I came up with that
16:42 timotimo and now i'm happy, too
16:42 timotimo have a nice dinner! :)
16:48 jnthn Thanks!
16:49 jnthn I did hack up a patch in a spare disconnected moment, but it still need spectest...and ERAVENOUS, so later or tomorrow :)
16:49 jnthn &
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17:04 timotimo and there's also still lots of multithreading/asynchrony stability things to find
17:04 timotimo like searching for easter eggs
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18:07 [Coke] ... easter eggs. I am going to eat sooo many boiled eggs this weekend...
18:08 nwc10 I expect I'm going to eat quite a few yolks. E only really likes the whites
18:19 * TimToady is only allowed to eat the yolks
18:26 * TimToady is also supposedly allergic to the yolks according to the skin test, but doesn't seem to be so when eating them
18:36 [Coke] well, there is a difference between eating them and rolling in them. :)
18:37 * TimToady has never rolled in egg batter, to his knowledge
18:37 FROGGS ... yet
18:38 masak I would advise not doing that if the skin test triggers on it
18:40 TimToady unlikely to be a problem, since the epidermis is largely impermeable to proteins without mechanical assistance
18:41 TimToady and none of my allergies are terribly sensitive
19:01 masak well, go ahead then. roll in egg batter. don't say I didn't warn you.
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21:14 japhb Would rolling the eggs between your skin and the floor be a form of mechanical assistance?
21:15 [Coke] not for very long
21:18 TimToady at least the yolk would not be on me
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