Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #moarvm, 2015-10-06

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10:50 dalek MoarVM: 41d75f1 | jnthn++ | src/strings/utf8.c:
10:50 dalek MoarVM: Fix indento.
10:50 dalek MoarVM: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/41d75f1a8e
10:50 dalek MoarVM: f09c782 | jnthn++ | src/strings/ (3 files):
10:50 dalek MoarVM: Strip UTF-8 BOM when decoding.
10:50 dalek MoarVM: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/f09c7826a6
10:54 nwc10 jnthn: error in
10:54 nwc10 static MVMint32 its_the_bom(const char *utf8) {
10:54 nwc10 needs to be unsigned char
10:54 jnthn error?
10:54 nwc10 IIRC, and from inspection
10:55 nwc10 it's a bug
10:55 nwc10 uns_utf8[0] == 0xEF && uns_utf8[1] == 0xBB && uns_utf8[2] == 0xBF
10:55 jnthn In *both* cases, the things we pass to it are char *
10:55 nwc10 will not be true if char is signed
10:55 jnthn Uh
10:55 nwc10 cannot be true if char is signed
10:55 jnthn You missed a line
10:55 nwc10 that's more what I meant
10:55 nwc10 oh
10:55 nwc10 you are corerct
10:55 nwc10 I missed a line
10:56 jnthn phew :)
10:56 nwc10 in which case, sorry
10:56 jnthn np
10:57 jnthn Would much rather than code review with occasional false positives than no code review. :)
10:57 jnthn s:1st/than/have/
10:59 nwc10 I'm twitchy because it look me a long time previously to find that bug
10:59 nwc10 code had that bug in it, so the BOM-ness never triggered
10:59 nwc10 until I built on ARM
10:59 nwc10 obviously the code wasn't *meant* to trigger
10:59 nwc10 but the bug had been concealed
11:00 jnthn urgh
11:00 jnthn Yeah
11:01 nwc10 I'm suspicious that I shouldn't have any more coffee today
11:04 * jnthn only had the one today
11:05 nwc10 but it was a pint?
11:05 jnthn Normalish size cup :)
11:06 masak but it was a double espresso?
11:06 jnthn Well, it had that much worth of coffee in, I suspect :)
11:06 nwc10 the Internet fails me. I can't find an image of a Maß filled with coffee
11:06 nwc10 (or perhaps, more visually approrpiately, cappochino)
11:07 jnthn hah...that has to be done!
11:07 nwc10 I am thinking this too
11:07 jnthn Would be such a fitting image for hacktoberfest
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11:07 travis-ci MoarVM build errored. jnthn 'Strip UTF-8 BOM when decoding.'
11:07 travis-ci https://travis-ci.org/MoarVM/MoarVM/builds/83865609 https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/compare/5075f5b1a59e...f09c7826a6ce
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11:08 jnthn Oh?
11:08 jnthn ah
11:08 nwc10 I don't have a Maß, and I don't know anyone from whom I could blag a loan.
11:08 jnthn The command "sudo apt-get update -qq" failed and exited with 100 during .
11:08 jnthn Pretty sure that's not my fault :)
11:10 nwc10 also, mmm, going to be hard to make a drinkable cappuccino in a heavy glass without either breaking the glass, or having coffee that is lukewarm at best, and cold soon after
11:10 nwc10 and not sure if any microwave I have access to is large enough to pre-warm the glass to avoid this
11:11 nwc10 but these things can be worked round, if a glass can be procured
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11:13 jnthn I suspect putting warm water into the glass first to warm it would help
11:13 nwc10 I was thinking exactly that. And incrementally raising the temperature of the water
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12:22 domidumont Hello. To optimize rakudo debian packages, I need to know if the moar files produced when building rakudo are the same whatever the architecture (i.e amd64, or arm ...) ? Can anyone confirm ?
12:22 nwc10 they are identical
12:22 nwc10 (or it's a bug)
12:22 nwc10 they have to be - NQP bootstraps using a copy of the file from git
12:23 nwc10 which is the same file on all architectures
12:23 domidumont nwc10: ok. thanks. Then I'll need to split rakudo package on Debian: one for the shared lib and one for all other files
12:46 jnthn Yes, .moarvm files are architecture-independent
12:46 jnthn And architecture-unoptimized
13:18 nwc10 domidumont: would that be easier if Makefiles had 2 install targets? For architecture independent things, and arhcietecture dependent things? (and the ability to configure them to point to different places, keeping the defaults as they currently are?)
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13:29 domidumont nwc10: 2 install targets: no. because the whole package is built at once and files are then picked to be moved in one or another package
13:30 nwc10 aha right. thanks for that clarification
13:30 domidumont nwc10: on the other hand, rakudo lacks the ability to specify where to install the shared lib (I had to patch Makefile-moar.in)
13:30 domidumont nwc10: so the configuration parameter would help
13:31 domidumont On a unix system, a shared lib (a .so file) should never land in /usr/share
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17:55 FROGGS o/
17:57 nwc10 \o
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19:58 brrt good * #moarvm
20:02 brrt re: the coffee discussion, why not preheat the glass in an oven?
20:02 brrt can be as slow as you like
20:02 brrt easy to do, too
20:02 brrt (heating water to heat a porcelain or glass cup is about as inefficient as can be due to water's huge heat coefficient)
20:06 lizmat brrt: it was more about not cooling down so fast
20:06 brrt well, then a thick glass should do the trick, shouldn't it?
20:09 brrt although you have these ehm, 'vacuum' hole glasses nowadays
20:09 brrt those are better still
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20:23 * FROGGS .oO( Schroedingers cup... is it cold inside or hot? - Yes )
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