Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #moarvm, 2016-02-02

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10:45 * brrt finally probably understands how to deal with register allocation
10:52 timotimo hey!
10:53 timotimo i saw a tweet about your session
10:53 timotimo seems like it was well visited
10:58 brrt yeah, it was busy enough :-)
10:58 brrt if you care, slides are here -> https://github.com/bdw/slides/raw/master/fosdem-2016.pdf
11:00 jnthn ooh, yay, brrt++ slides :)
11:02 brrt :-)
11:02 brrt timotimo: what tweet? i'm curious
11:02 tadzik oh nice :)
11:10 timotimo gimme a sec
11:10 timotimo https://twitter.com/nxadm/status/693790497408688128
11:12 timotimo oh, a wild tadzik appears
11:12 * timotimo throws perl-a-ball
11:12 * timotimo afk for a bunch of hours
11:16 brrt thanks :-)
11:16 brrt fwiw, zo ancient en cracked zijn die centrales nou ook weer niet
11:16 brrt oh, sorry, dutch
11:33 jnthn So ancient and cracked!
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12:03 timotimo now i wonderif "cracked" is just the typical dutch way to say "b0rked"
12:03 timotimo i find it amusing, that the german "kaputt" sometimes crops up in english as "kaput" or similar
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13:06 tony-o_ timotimo: isnt kaput the proper spelling?
13:15 jnthn Only if your spelling is kaput :P
13:15 [Coke] in english, kaput is proper, I think.
13:15 jnthn :)
13:16 jnthn Yeah, list most English borrowings, we give the spelling a good screwing up along the way :)
13:16 jnthn *like most
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13:41 geekosaur we can't even spell our own words correctly, much less yours :p
13:46 jnthn win 12
13:46 jnthn oops
13:51 * flussence would like to get this small fix into moar (and rakudo) sometime, but has no idea how to keep Windows(/Mac?) happy: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/issues/320#issuecomment-167796142
13:59 geekosaur yeh, that won't fly on either windows or mac
14:13 flussence Maybe I'm worrying about nothing, does --has-libffi even make sense to support on those? I thought the whole point it was added was to be able to run nativecall on esoteric systems, which wouldn't have either OS anyway
14:15 geekosaur macs have libffi
14:15 geekosaur includes are in /usr/include/ffi
14:15 geekosaur but macs don't have pkg-config
14:26 tony-o_ libffi is installable via brew
14:27 tony-o_ re:kaputt - didn't know that, when i took german they spelled it with only the one 't'
14:27 arnsholt A propos the previous discussion, one possible explanation of "kaput" vs. "kaputt" is that the German spelling was with a single t when it was borrowed into English
14:27 arnsholt And then changed at some later point
14:28 tony-o_ did we take that word prior to ww2?
14:28 arnsholt Prior to roughly the 1800s (IIRC), spelling was very variable
14:29 tony-o_ seems like a second 't' would change the pronunciation
14:30 arnsholt Thing is, people were a lot less picky about that kind of thing up until relatively recently =)
14:31 geekosaur only if there's a stable orthography. english didn't even pretend to have one before noah webster, and it's still not very reliable
14:31 geekosaur I have no clue about thehistory of German orthography
14:31 moritz it was also variable :-)
14:31 moritz old texts use y where we use i now a lot
14:31 moritz "seyn" instead of "sein" (to be)
14:32 tony-o_ maybe they just had poor hand writing
14:32 tony-o_ (joke)
14:33 tony-o_ now i'm going to be reading about orthography for half of today.
14:33 geekosaur what letters/combinations map to what sounds, more or less
14:36 geekosaur English has one, sort of, but it's honored in the breach more than the keeping (cf. the "ghoti" joke)
14:36 tony-o_ the ol' fish joke
14:37 geekosaur (although imo that one only really proves that the orthography is complex and context-dependent)
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16:28 dalek MoarVM: 1679aec | coke++ | ports/macports/README.md:
16:28 dalek MoarVM: fix typo
16:28 dalek MoarVM:
16:28 dalek MoarVM: mojca++
16:28 dalek MoarVM: review: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/1679aec2dd
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