Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2010-07-03

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00:24 sri lol... "we will only use your framework if you promise us free commercial grade support!"
00:24 sri "you obviously lack the business skills it takes to lead a successful open source project."
00:24 sri insurgent software
00:36 sri Zzz
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02:16 esskar_ sri: vti: when using JSON:XS you should use ->convert_blessed or make it optional through $ENV maybe
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08:30 namedrisk I was going thru the documents and everything and was wondering if there is a instruction for creating dropdown boxes like we have for creating input's form... <select.. then we have the inner options
08:32 namedrisk <%= input 'test', type => 'text' %> but instead for select and options within the select
08:50 yko i think, there's no instructions of creating <select> because there's no appropriate helper to create <select> :p
08:51 namedrisk yko thanks for the answer i toguht so ... but just wanted to confirm since i saw somewhere the docs were still being worked out ;)
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08:52 yko no, i checked code, there's no appropriate helper yet
08:52 yko you can use helper 'tag' and some loop to create 'select' and 'option' tags, but the best way is to write own helper that creates 'select' tag and publish it, so it can be implemented in mojolicious :D
08:53 namedrisk mmmm sounds interesting i will take a look at it :)
08:53 namedrisk thx
08:54 yko perhaps, you whant to look at native helper's code (input, etc) at http://github.com/kraih/mojo/blob/master/​lib/Mojolicious/Plugin/TagHelpers.pm#L34
08:54 garfield [ lib/Mojolicious/Plugin/TagHelpers.pm at master from kraih's mojo - GitHub ]
08:54 garfield http://xrl.us/bhqoit
08:54 yko *want
08:55 yko damn, i really should go to school :'(
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08:56 namedrisk ahahha :P just say something like it is late and your keyboard is playing tricks on you
08:56 yko haha :D usually i do so
08:57 yko Speacing foreign lang, which you actually don't know and looking very clever isn't easy
08:57 * yko hates english.
08:58 yko s/c/k/ :'(
08:59 namedrisk hehe i am not english so i dont worry too much with it
09:00 namedrisk well :( my own language is harder so i would rather had it as my first language perhaps lol
09:00 namedrisk well i'ma hit the sack thanks a bunch for the link it helped at lot will see if i can get something towards what i want for simplicity
09:02 yko great to hear such summary
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10:43 * sri yawns
10:44 sri patches for more helpers welcome! :)
10:51 yko sri++
10:52 sri http://kraih.com/perl-clean-sri.png # btw
10:56 marcus hai
10:56 marcus hmm
10:56 marcus wonder if it would be feasible to write a http log analytics tool with couchdb and mojolicious
10:57 sri impossible!
10:58 marcus I've no idea why there are no modern http log analytics tools
10:59 marcus seems like people still use awstats and analog
10:59 sri yea
10:59 marcus which are like 10 years old
11:00 marcus chris nehren must die.
11:11 * sri needs ice
11:13 marcus can haz ice
11:28 sri
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13:15 sri hilarious how all features *planned* for dancer are based on mojolicious xD
13:15 sri you can even compare their issue tracker with my tweets to see the direct connection
13:16 sri lol
13:33 sri http://twitter.com/kraih # the gloces are off! :D
13:33 garfield [ Sebastian Riedel (kraih) on Twitter ]
13:33 sri *gloves
13:53 sri this should be fun!
13:56 sri now cold beer and soccer :)
14:10 marcus sri: his post is from 2009
14:10 sri i know, but i've only recently become aware of it
14:11 sri and now is the right time to have some fun
14:11 sri ;p
14:12 marcus you mean while everybody are on vacation
14:12 marcus I find it amusing that he's pissed off that someone ripped of his *port* of a ruby framework
14:12 sri yea
14:12 sri you are not on vacation ;p
14:12 marcus I am
14:12 marcus bbquing at my parents terrace right now
14:12 sri :o
14:12 marcus with my daughter on my lap
14:13 sri wondeful new everywhere internet world
14:13 sri *+r
14:14 sri once i'm finished with the documentation i'm going to market mojolicious a little more aggressive
14:15 sri so it's the right time to start poking around a bit
14:17 marcus it's a good idea
14:17 marcus sri: did you see this nugget from #perl ?
14:17 marcus 06:02 < erikh> you're killing my mojo
14:17 marcus 06:02 <@apeiron> good, mojo sucks
14:17 marcus 06:02 <@apeiron> so does mojomojo
14:17 marcus 06:02 <@apeiron> death to mojo*!
14:18 sri having the superior technology means nothing if you fail at making people aware of it ;)
14:18 sri apeiron secretly likes me i think
14:19 sri always trying to get my attention
14:19 marcus he works for webgui
14:19 marcus http://www.webgui.org/webgui/​campaigns/people/chris-nehren
14:19 garfield [ WebGUI - Chris Nehren - Content Management System Website - CMS - Open Source Content Management System Website - Website System - Content Management System (CMS) | Open Source Content Management Software | Application Framework | WebGUI - Content Management System Website | CMS | WebGUI | Open Source Content Management System Website | Website System ]
14:19 sri ah
14:19 garfield http://xrl.us/bhqoze
14:19 sri thats the guy that needs to die?
14:20 marcus well, not really, but yeah.
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14:21 marcus http://www.sukria.net/fr/archives/201​0/07/03/perl-dancer-meeting-1-report/
14:21 garfield [ Perl Dancer meeting #1 reportSukria.net | Sukria.net ]
14:21 garfield http://xrl.us/bhqozg
14:22 marcus you should be careful with dancer, he might throw fish at you
14:22 sri Oo
14:23 sri websockets in a micro framework is a mojolicious exclusive atm.
14:23 sri we are the only ones doing it that way
14:24 sri http://github.com/sukria/Dancer/issues#issue/82 # another glorious ripoff
14:24 garfield [ Issues - sukria/Dancer - GitHub ]
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14:24 sri think we are the only ones doing it that way too
14:27 sri they are making it so easy for me
14:27 marcus they need a massive rewrite to support app embedding :)
14:27 sri like shooting fish in a barrel
14:28 sri more beer!
14:29 sri the cultural differences between perl5 and perl6 folks are interesting
14:30 sri perl5 people usually enjoy a good flamewar
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14:32 sri while perl6 people try isolating the problem and look for solutions
14:33 sri maybe perl5 makes people bitter? :)
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14:55 ashleydev is there something comparable to rvm in the perl world?  I want to install modules to a local git project directory, and when I `cd` into that dir my env auto knows to use the locally installed modules in that dir...
14:59 yko perl -I./dirwithyourmodules yourscript.pl || use lib './dirwithyourmodules'
15:00 ashleydev yeah... I know about the manual way
15:01 ashleydev it just nice to be able to do something like `cpanm --install=./here/ --remember_when_im_here=./`
15:01 sri http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23perl # holy retweet recursion batman :o
15:01 garfield [ Twitter ]
15:02 yko at least mojolicious projects always use lib 'FindBin::Bin/lib'
15:02 yko so when i deploy some work under cgi, i put all deps into lib
15:04 yko ashleydev: mb try cpanm -l~/project/lib Module::To::Be::Installed
15:04 yko or you want cpanm to remember where to install modules, when you are at some dir?
15:06 ashleydev nice, i guess rtfm helps there (didn't know about `cpanm -l`)
15:06 ashleydev but i guess I was going for one more...
15:06 ashleydev rvm makes you put something at the end of your .<shell>rc file
15:06 ashleydev (for me .bashrc)
15:07 ashleydev and then when you are in your project dir, it knows about the local::lib install kind of thing (it also knows which ruby you wanna use too)
15:08 ashleydev cpanm -l and cpanm -L seem to get you most of the way there, which is Great to know...
15:12 yko something like that
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15:22 * yko didn't know about cpanm -l also
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16:00 sri twitter over capacity :)
16:15 sri i guess an irc bot that can be controlled from a web site would be a nice cookbook recipe
16:16 sri to demonstrate how to use POE in mojolicious
16:23 yko yes
16:24 * yko waiting somebody to write it.
16:24 yko :))
16:24 yko Why there's only 24h in a day :(
16:25 yko actually i want to try to write it by myself, but i think, when ill do that, romantic apocalypse story became truth
16:35 sri oO
16:36 marcus http://www.sinfest.net/arc​hive_page.php?comicID=3587
16:36 garfield [ Sinfest ]
16:36 garfield http://xrl.us/bhqo99
16:37 sri lol
16:37 marcus sinfest is pretty awesome
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21:04 GitHub152 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 516cfe0 (3 files in 2 dirs): improved CGI detection - http://bit.ly/dBNZD0
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21:08 yko yay!!! :D
21:08 yko thank you sri!
21:08 sri hope that helps :)
21:08 yko shure! :D
21:09 yko some people are so lazy.... you know ;)
21:09 sri indeed
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22:23 GitHub153 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 31fb9ea (2 files in 2 dirs): more marketing - http://bit.ly/aQPhkK
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