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hey |
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xantus[] |
sri: thanks for fixing that bug |
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xantus[] |
my downloads are working ok now btw, they aren't timing out while xfering |
| 04:53 |
Alias_ |
So, how do I get a bug fixed that is small enough I don't really think it's worth a full bug report |
| 04:53 |
* Alias_ |
wants the Mojo version echoed into Mojolicious::Lite |
| 04:53 |
Alias_ |
It's already echoed into Mojolicious itself, but not into ::Lite |
| 04:53 |
Alias_ |
So I can't do "use Mojolicious::Lite 0.1234" |
| 04:55 |
xantus[] |
just ping sri and he'll do it |
| 04:58 |
xantus[] |
you can gist your diff I suppose |
| 05:00 |
Alias_ |
gist? |
| 05:00 |
Alias_ |
I still have a few problems in the diff area |
| 05:00 |
Alias_ |
1. No way to make them |
| 05:00 |
Alias_ |
2. No git client worth a damn |
| 05:01 |
Alias_ |
Eventually I'll get my own implementation working in Padre |
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| 05:04 |
Alias_ |
oh dear, current release FAIL for me :( |
| 05:05 |
Alias_ |
oh I see, dead entirely on Windows |
| 05:05 |
* Alias_ |
notes that that sucks |
| 05:06 |
Alias_ |
gah, and he's deleted all the older versions off CPAN |
| 05:06 |
Alias_ |
sigh |
| 05:07 |
Alias_ |
Bug duly filed |
| 05:08 |
Alias_ |
https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=61229 |
| 05:08 |
crab |
hi Alias. |
| 05:08 |
Alias_ |
hiya |
| 05:08 |
crab |
i assume you mean windows git clients when you say there are none worth a damn? |
| 05:08 |
* Alias_ |
reverts to testing with 0.9003 |
| 05:08 |
Alias_ |
crab: Of course |
| 05:09 |
Alias_ |
The MSys client is starting to get usable |
| 05:09 |
crab |
i don't use windows, so i don't know their current state, but these days i hear "everything works fine". i take it the msysgit thing doesn't work well enough? |
| 05:09 |
Alias_ |
But really, version control on Windows with command line feels unnatural |
| 05:09 |
crab |
ah. |
| 05:10 |
Alias_ |
Now it works well enough to start learning, I do plan to investigate it though |
| 05:10 |
crab |
there was some tortoisegit project to make a gui client, but i think it got abandoned. |
| 05:10 |
Alias_ |
Plus, the gui integration version control really isn't very fun |
| 05:10 |
Alias_ |
I hated TurtleCVS and TortoisSVN and whatever |
| 05:10 |
Alias_ |
You lose the overall view of projects |
| 05:20 |
xantus[] |
ah, you're not the Alias I know |
| 05:23 |
xantus[] |
btw, http://gist.github.com/ |
| 05:24 |
xantus[] |
its like nopaste |
| 05:25 |
Alias_ |
? |
| 05:26 |
Alias_ |
oh, weird |
| 05:26 |
Alias_ |
ok |
| 05:26 |
omega |
except every paste is it own git repo, can be forked and changed :p |
| 05:26 |
xantus[] |
yea |
| 05:26 |
Alias_ |
ok, so question |
| 05:27 |
Alias_ |
If I have a Mojolicious::Lite app |
| 05:27 |
Alias_ |
And I want some common bit of functionality |
| 05:27 |
xantus[] |
plugin |
| 05:27 |
Alias_ |
I mean, like 5 lines of code |
| 05:27 |
xantus[] |
which are |
| 05:27 |
Alias_ |
To be shared across a half a dozen get handlers |
| 05:27 |
Alias_ |
Do I just use plain functions? |
| 05:27 |
xantus[] |
like what |
| 05:28 |
xantus[] |
you may just need a ladder |
| 05:28 |
xantus[] |
where a function gets called for every route below the ladder |
| 05:28 |
Alias_ |
http://svn.ali.as/cpan/trunk/Top100-Mojo/top100.pl |
| 05:29 |
Alias_ |
Note: I'm not a big fan of magic declarative stuff |
| 05:29 |
xantus[] |
like you don't want to dupe that one sub right |
| 05:29 |
Alias_ |
But then that doesn't help you much |
| 05:29 |
xantus[] |
then breat it out into sub graph { and use \&graph |
| 05:29 |
Alias_ |
Assume there will have a half dozen other route variants |
| 05:30 |
xantus[] |
ah, but slightly different for each one? |
| 05:30 |
Alias_ |
more or less |
| 05:30 |
xantus[] |
you may just be setting one or two things right |
| 05:30 |
Alias_ |
Different routes to prepare the complicate graph params, all feeding into one thing that generates the graph and returns it |
| 05:30 |
xantus[] |
you can have that as part of the route |
| 05:30 |
Alias_ |
More like 5 or 6 things |
| 05:30 |
xantus[] |
with stash vars predefined |
| 05:31 |
Alias_ |
Anyways |
| 05:31 |
Alias_ |
Lets stick to the X :) |
| 05:31 |
xantus[] |
lets see all the code, we can break it down |
| 05:31 |
Alias_ |
That is all the code |
| 05:31 |
xantus[] |
ah |
| 05:31 |
Alias_ |
I've set myself the rule for the moment of putting the entire site in one script |
| 05:31 |
Alias_ |
We'll see how long that lasts... |
| 05:32 |
xantus[] |
k |
| 05:32 |
xantus[] |
whats the site |
| 05:32 |
Alias_ |
But you should assume dependency_graphviz(%param) takes up to 7 or 8 optional params, and I'll be feeding it in a wide variety of different ways |
| 05:32 |
Alias_ |
http://ali.as/top100 |
| 05:32 |
Alias_ |
I'm doing a competition to rewrite it to be dynamic |
| 05:33 |
Alias_ |
Implementing exactly the same thing in both Mojo and Dancer |
| 05:33 |
Alias_ |
To see which one I like more |
| 05:33 |
xantus[] |
wait, you are the alias on cpan...ok |
| 05:33 |
Alias_ |
Yes |
| 05:33 |
xantus[] |
I do know you then..thought you were someone else |
| 05:33 |
Alias_ |
Unlikely to be other Alias' on irc.perl.org |
| 05:33 |
Alias_ |
Maybe on freenode |
| 05:33 |
xantus[] |
yea |
| 05:34 |
Alias_ |
Anyways, the code in that file assumed I could do $self->anything |
| 05:34 |
xantus[] |
I used to hang out in #poe |
| 05:34 |
Alias_ |
And that's not true |
| 05:34 |
Alias_ |
So what's the recommended alternative |
| 05:34 |
Alias_ |
Solving JUST the code you see there |
| 05:34 |
Alias_ |
Do a plain function call, passing self? |
| 05:34 |
xantus[] |
a helper |
| 05:35 |
Alias_ |
Example? |
| 05:35 |
Alias_ |
Actually, wait |
| 05:35 |
Alias_ |
I'm supposed to be pretending to be a newbie |
| 05:35 |
Alias_ |
So let me go look for ladder |
| 05:35 |
xantus[] |
its app->helper(graph => \&graph); |
| 05:36 |
xantus[] |
and $self->graph calls your fn |
| 05:36 |
xantus[] |
you get $self without looking funky: graph( $self ... ); |
| 05:38 |
xantus[] |
I'm hacking on a file fetcher + websocket sample app |
| 05:40 |
xantus[] |
couchdb for the list of urls + watcher to live update the browser, download progress, etc via websocket |
| 05:40 |
Alias_ |
That helper declaration looks almost as funky |
| 05:41 |
Alias_ |
But hey, moving onto |
| 05:43 |
Alias_ |
Can't locate object method "helper" via package "Mojolicious::Lite" at top100.pl line 48. |
| 05:46 |
Alias_ |
for new I'll give up and go the funky way |
| 05:50 |
xantus[] |
this is latest github version, not cpan |
| 05:50 |
Alias_ |
I'm using 0.9003 |
| 05:50 |
Alias_ |
CPAN version doesn't install |
| 05:52 |
xantus[] |
Mojo/0.999930 is latest |
| 05:52 |
Alias_ |
Like I said, it's uninstallable |
| 05:52 |
Alias_ |
100% FAIL on Windows |
| 05:52 |
xantus[] |
you meant github version then |
| 05:52 |
Alias_ |
hrm? |
| 05:52 |
Alias_ |
I'm don't use development software |
| 05:52 |
Alias_ |
I don't |
| 05:53 |
xantus[] |
ok |
| 05:53 |
Alias_ |
Cause I'm (notionally) a newbie here |
| 05:53 |
xantus[] |
ok, good luck with that assumption |
| 05:53 |
Alias_ |
It's a condition of the competition |
| 05:53 |
xantus[] |
I see.. |
| 05:53 |
Alias_ |
That I would try to act somewhat like the main market for both Dancer and Mojo |
| 05:57 |
xantus[] |
I suggest the docs: http://search.cpan.org/~kraih/Mojolicious-0.999929/lib/Mojolicious/Lite.pm |
| 05:57 |
xantus[] |
and the mojolicio.us site |
| 05:57 |
xantus[] |
cya tomorrow....its 1am here |
| 05:58 |
xantus[] |
I'm in the st louis area doing some contract |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Just had a successful pull request on #mojolicious on some documentation stuff. Great! Motivation for the next one. #perl" --rabenfeder http://twitter.com/rabenfeder/status/24083567169 |
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maettu |
the qooxdoo dispatcher I talked about some days ago, shouldn't it be better put into MojoX instead of Plugins? |
| 06:55 |
perlrocks |
Twitter: "@rabenfeder Welcome to the club! Have some pie. You'll be a #perl #mojolicious guru in no time." --tempiretech http://twitter.com/tempiretech/status/24083928082 |
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esskar |
moin |
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esskar |
is there a GIT protocol spec somewhere? |
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ptomli |
gitscm.org somewhere i guess, can't see it off hand though |
| 08:16 |
esskar |
maybe i have to wait until their wiki is up again |
| 08:17 |
ptomli |
maybe http://peepcode.com/products/git-internals-pdf |
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sri |
Alias_: please no more rt tickets, we are on github |
| 09:12 |
sri |
Alias_: we are not competing with dancer, thats almost an insult, we are competing with catalyst |
| 09:12 |
sri |
Alias_: the bugs you reported are fixed on github |
| 09:13 |
vti |
sri: how about 'why mojo will not kill catalyst' post? ;p |
| 09:13 |
sri |
that offer has been declined |
| 09:14 |
sri |
now we are going to eat their lunch |
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sri |
:) |
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sri |
i hate rt :S |
| 09:15 |
sri |
nothing better than rt tickets to ruin my morning |
| 09:16 |
sri |
and then he's even spamming me with them |
| 09:16 |
vti |
i think you can replace rt with your issues link on cpan |
| 09:17 |
vti |
and release often! |
| 09:17 |
sri |
how? |
| 09:17 |
arpadszasz |
sri: what's then the prefered way to send patches? github issues or by email to the mailing-list? |
| 09:17 |
sri |
github |
| 09:18 |
sri |
fork and send pull request |
| 09:18 |
ysyrota |
vti: is there some sample of using moggregator? |
| 09:18 |
arpadszasz |
ok, noted |
| 09:18 |
vti |
sri: i just heard, never tried |
| 09:18 |
vti |
sri: let me check :) |
| 09:18 |
vti |
ysyrota: it's old and not complete, don't use it |
| 09:19 |
vti |
i am not sure if you even can start it, because mojo changed singificantly |
| 09:20 |
ysyrota |
vti: what was the idea? |
| 09:20 |
sri |
Alias_: and i want to get rid of the version number in the Mojo package, it is deprecated |
| 09:21 |
sri |
Alias_: whats the point of adding a version to Mojolicious::Lite? |
| 09:21 |
vti |
ysyrota: same as plagger or perlanet |
| 09:22 |
sri |
sri: btw. i think your newbie review of mojolicious is entirely flawed, so i'm not going to support it in any way |
| 09:22 |
sri |
umm |
| 09:22 |
sri |
Alias |
| 09:22 |
vti |
talking to yourself? ;p |
| 09:22 |
sri |
sri: you are awesome! |
| 09:23 |
sri |
\o/ |
| 09:23 |
vti |
sri: where is it? |
| 09:23 |
sri |
it was on use.perl some months ago |
| 09:31 |
vti |
sri: http://search.cpan.org/~plaven/Padre-0.70/lib/Padre.pm |
| 09:31 |
vti |
they have trac link, not RT |
| 09:31 |
arpadszasz |
vti: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/40292 and http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/40312 |
| 09:32 |
vti |
arpadszasz: thanks :) |
| 09:32 |
arpadszasz |
these articles got me interested in Mojolicious |
| 09:32 |
arpadszasz |
so thanks Alias_ ! :) |
| 09:33 |
vti |
sri: i guess it is simply as adding "bugtracker 'http://padre.perlide.org/trac/';" to Makefile.PL |
| 09:33 |
vti |
*as simple as |
| 09:33 |
sri |
vti: lets see |
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GitHub8 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 37f967d (3 files in 2 dirs): changed bugtracker - http://bit.ly/9jONQG |
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| 09:36 |
sri |
ooh, iterm2 |
| 09:36 |
sri |
how is it? |
| 09:36 |
omega |
its ok |
| 09:36 |
vti |
looks the same :) |
| 09:37 |
omega |
but bookmarks is a bit more confusing for now |
| 09:37 |
vti |
except preferences window |
| 09:37 |
omega |
and some annoyances, like not able to close bookmark window from keyboard easily |
| 09:44 |
perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @rabenfeder: Just had a successful pull request on #mojolicious on some documentation stuff. Great! Motivation for the next one. #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/24091210211 |
| 09:45 |
sri |
Alias_: btw. the windows breakage goes pretty deep, we had to deactivate UNIX performance hacks for which windows was simply too weak, stuff that needs to be tested on github first |
| 09:47 |
sri |
especially since i have found no real information why the kernel send buffer behaves so different on windows |
| 09:48 |
esskar |
sri, --reload still does not reload templates in /templates |
| 09:48 |
sri |
as in throwing exceptions if someone tries to write directly |
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sri |
esskar: confirmed |
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GitHub61 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * d8ab87a (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed automatic reloading for external templates - http://bit.ly/bOervw |
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| 10:00 |
sri |
esskar: fixed |
| 10:04 |
esskar |
http://perlpunks.de/paste/show/4c8a02c2.66f.2ad |
| 10:05 |
esskar |
sri: but reload works now. thanks |
| 10:06 |
sri |
Oo |
| 10:06 |
sri |
are you sure you have the latest version? |
| 10:06 |
esskar |
just pulled it |
| 10:06 |
sri |
(of everything) |
| 10:07 |
esskar |
git pull |
| 10:07 |
sri |
the broken test could point at a serious windows flaw again |
| 10:08 |
sri |
is IO::Poll broken in your perl? |
| 10:08 |
esskar |
no clue. got strawberry here |
| 10:08 |
sri |
hmm |
| 10:08 |
sri |
Alias_: broken? |
| 10:09 |
sri |
we might have to disable the test on windows :S |
| 10:09 |
esskar |
IO::Poll is up to date (0.07). |
| 10:09 |
sri |
if it can't support the safety net |
| 10:09 |
esskar |
what does test actually |
| 10:10 |
sri |
corrupted connection |
| 10:10 |
sri |
http://github.com/kraih/mojo/blob/master/lib/Mojo/IOLoop.pm#L536 |
| 10:10 |
sri |
thats the code |
| 10:10 |
sri |
test obviously returns true when it should return false |
| 10:11 |
sri |
(which would trigger the trashing of the old connection in favor of a new one) |
| 10:11 |
sri |
oh shit |
| 10:11 |
sri |
i know |
| 10:11 |
sri |
argh |
| 10:12 |
sri |
my fault |
| 10:12 |
esskar |
always ;) |
| 10:12 |
esskar |
ehhh |
| 10:12 |
esskar |
never |
| 10:12 |
sri |
windows flaw |
| 10:12 |
sri |
windows can't write directly, and never taints the connection |
| 10:15 |
sri |
i hate windows with a passion |
| 10:15 |
sri |
so many workarounds |
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GitHub62 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 477c18d (1 files in 1 dirs): fixed windows test - http://bit.ly/936X7s |
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| 10:15 |
sri |
esskar: ok should be fixed |
| 10:16 |
crab |
i'm so glad i don't even have to pretend to support windows |
| 10:17 |
sri |
it's a miracle we can support so much on windows |
| 10:17 |
esskar |
sri, nope |
| 10:17 |
sri |
but every small unix optimization usually means total breakage on windows |
| 10:18 |
sri |
huh? |
| 10:18 |
esskar |
same error |
| 10:18 |
sri |
ops |
| 10:18 |
sri |
typo |
| 10:18 |
esskar |
:D |
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GitHub81 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 0e8f0db (1 files in 1 dirs): fixed typo - http://bit.ly/cgwZaN |
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sri |
esskar: now ;p |
| 10:20 |
esskar |
looks great and clean again |
| 10:20 |
sri |
\o/ |
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marcus |
sri: been working hard at breaking windows support today? :) |
| 10:22 |
sri |
every chance i get |
| 10:22 |
sri |
http://www.horriblelogos.com/ # lol! |
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esskar |
can you add base to URI which returns scheme://host[:port] ? |
| 10:25 |
sri |
? |
| 10:26 |
esskar |
s/URI/URL/ |
| 10:26 |
sri |
i don't get the question |
| 10:28 |
esskar |
$req->url->base could return scheme://host:[port] |
| 10:29 |
sri |
true |
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spleenjack |
hmm. if i create mojo::lite application and using plugin that was register themself already on hook would running in reverse order - my plugin will be run first and it's look like it won't do anything. for example, powered_by plugin. look at the test: http://pastebin.com/92Za6ffA . test passed if uncomment line 12. |
| 10:38 |
ysyrota |
vti: uh, Plagger requires half of cpan to install |
| 10:38 |
vti |
ysyrota: that's why i tried to write moggregator ;p |
| 10:38 |
vti |
ysyrota: try perlanet |
| 10:39 |
ysyrota |
vti: I noticed that plagger has ability grab whole page, it's is interesting feature for me, I want to see |
| 10:40 |
ysyrota |
vti: however plagger last release was in 2006, I wonder is it useful yet |
| 10:41 |
vti |
ysyrota: what do you mean by 'whole page'? do you mean that you need grabbing a full article, not just rss summary? moggregator does it.. i think perlanet too |
| 10:42 |
ysyrota |
vti: yes, I want to grab full article |
| 10:42 |
ysyrota |
vti: so, I will look to perlanet then |
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sri |
spleenjack: oh thats correct |
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sri |
spleenjack: the hook needs to be renamed |
| 11:14 |
sri |
and run in normal order |
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sri |
how about before_request? |
| 11:44 |
sri |
weird, the whole documentation for the hook is out of line |
| 11:45 |
spleenjack |
but the list of hook listeners still contains two listeners with the same name. is that right? may be each plugin must have unique handler in within identical hook? |
| 11:46 |
sri |
that would never work |
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* ptomli |
whistles |
| 11:47 |
sri |
make a real proposal if you have a better idea |
| 11:48 |
ptomli |
yeah, i know. over the w/e i expect i'll look closer at how it all get plumbed together |
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spleenjack |
no, create new plugins instance and fill it with required plugins - it's much simpler for me) |
| 11:50 |
sri |
PoweredBy is not even a good example |
| 11:50 |
sri |
that code has only been put into a plugin as an example |
| 11:50 |
sri |
normally it would just go into Mojolicious.pm and you would be expected to redefine the header |
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sri |
(so don't use it in a proposal, i want a *real* example) :) |
| 11:51 |
sri |
after_build_tx is totally broken though |
| 11:52 |
sri |
gonna go with before_request |
| 11:53 |
vti |
before_the_earth_was_created |
| 11:53 |
sri |
you fool! |
| 11:53 |
sri |
timemachines only work forward in time! |
| 11:53 |
sri |
have you learned nothing from futurama? |
| 11:53 |
vti |
forgive me, master! |
| 11:54 |
sri |
just this one time |
| 11:56 |
sri |
damn, someone might be using the hook already |
| 11:56 |
sri |
no renaming, just changing the plugin hook philosophy |
| 11:57 |
sri |
is anyone using the hook? |
| 11:57 |
vti |
since when you care about users? ;p |
| 11:57 |
sri |
since always? |
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GitHub135 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 2e5f55e (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed after_build_tx plugin hook callback order - http://bit.ly/bbJoyC |
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sri |
vti: if you think a change i did was wrong just speak up, i'm sure we can sort it out |
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vti |
sri: me? i don't use after_build_tx plugin :) |
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* sri |
goes back to finishing hypnotoad |
| 12:27 |
sri |
please test the current github version, i want to release soon! |
| 12:28 |
sri |
(especially on windows) |
| 12:28 |
sri |
next release might even be worthy of a new codename, considering the massive improvements |
| 12:29 |
sri |
marcus: what were your suggestions again recently? |
| 12:29 |
sri |
i only remember snowflake for the christmas release :0 |
| 12:29 |
sri |
:) |
| 12:30 |
sri |
or maybe someone else has a fun sugegstion? |
| 12:30 |
sri |
next release needs a codename! |
| 12:31 |
ptomli |
what's the focus of the improvements been |
| 12:32 |
sri |
no focus really, we'll have a whole new production server, template block syntax and helper system |
| 12:32 |
sri |
basically stuff that gets end users really excited |
| 12:32 |
ptomli |
orgasmo ? |
| 12:32 |
sri |
or.... stuff that gets me excited :D |
| 12:32 |
ptomli |
:D |
| 12:32 |
sri |
it has to be a unicode symbol |
| 12:33 |
sri |
thats our codename theme |
| 12:33 |
sri |
i tend towards Heart (see topic) |
| 12:34 |
sri |
ah, "BLACK HEART SUIT" thats the real name |
| 12:34 |
marcus |
sri: black pawn? |
| 12:34 |
sri |
not bad |
| 12:35 |
sri |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscellaneous_symbols_(Unicode_block) # here are a few |
| 12:35 |
marcus |
did you use U+2601 yet? |
| 12:35 |
sri |
nope |
| 12:36 |
marcus |
I guess it's an obvious mojo release, but maybe for the version that autodeploys to ec2 ;) |
| 12:36 |
sri |
hehe |
| 12:36 |
ptomli |
2615 |
| 12:37 |
ptomli |
HOT BEVERAGE |
| 12:37 |
marcus |
ooh, good one |
| 12:37 |
sri |
:D |
| 12:37 |
marcus |
looks like java tho |
| 12:37 |
ptomli |
you could go with the austin powers theme.... |
| 12:37 |
ptomli |
26A3 |
| 12:38 |
ptomli |
DOUBLED MALE SIGN |
| 12:38 |
marcus |
2668 is even more like java :) |
| 12:38 |
marcus |
HOT TUB TIME MACHINE |
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sri |
number? Oo |
| 12:39 |
marcus |
was kidding. 2668 is hot spring |
| 12:39 |
sri |
after the emoticon addition i believe basically everything... |
| 12:39 |
ptomli |
2619 REVERSED ROTATED FLORAL HEART BULLET |
| 12:39 |
marcus |
Looking forward to Mojolicious RECYCLING SYMBOL FOR TYPE-5 PLASTICS |
| 12:39 |
sri |
http://unicode.org/Public/6.0.0/charts/versioned/U1F600.pdf # seriously |
| 12:40 |
sri |
SMILING CAT FACE WITH HEART-SHAPED EYES |
| 12:40 |
ptomli |
lol |
| 12:40 |
marcus |
or DIE FACE-1 |
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marcus |
sri: those are pretty awesome |
| 12:41 |
ptomli |
2699 GEAR |
| 12:41 |
sri |
so far we've only had Snowman and Comet |
| 12:41 |
marcus |
Gear++ |
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marcus |
or 2690 WHITE FLAG |
| 12:42 |
marcus |
:) |
| 12:43 |
marcus |
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2692/index.htm # WTH, SHOULDNT IT BE HAMMER AND SICKLE? |
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marcus |
sri: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/26a3/index.htm # Mojolicious Gay |
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spleenjack |
1F68E TROLLEYBUS |
| 12:45 |
sri |
lol |
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sri |
marcus: thats a mining sign |
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marcus |
spleenjack: I think Oncoming bus would be better. |
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marcus |
sri: kinky |
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sri |
the first xD |
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sri |
argh |
| 12:46 |
marcus |
aha :) |
| 12:46 |
marcus |
too much unicode goodness |
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spleenjack |
marcus: or police car |
| 12:46 |
sri |
HOT BEVERAGE is my favorite |
| 12:47 |
marcus |
it's good |
| 12:47 |
ptomli |
++ |
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ptomli |
where does the URI blah-blah -> Blah::Blah conversion happen? |
| 12:50 |
sri |
Mojo::ByteStream::decamelize |
| 12:50 |
sri |
or camelize actually |
| 12:50 |
sri |
which gets called from MojoX::Dispatcher::Routes i think |
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ptomli |
yeah, _generate_class |
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ptomli |
was just looking if it was possible to config that handling |
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GitHub198 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * cd382dc (0 files in 0 dirs): removed deprecated file - http://bit.ly/dgSSG8 |
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ptomli |
/account/credit-history Unknown command |
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ptomli |
/account/credit-history -> Account::CreditHistory |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "The next #mojolicious release will be called "Hot Beverage". :) http://bit.ly/dcEXX1 #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/24101960890 |
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sri |
Cloud, Umbrella, Star, Lightning, Thunderstorm...all good names |
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sri |
marcus: here's your Hammer and Sickle ☭ |
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marcus |
nice |
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marcus |
good revolutionary symbol |
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marcus |
I have the T-shirt :) |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: The next #mojolicious release will be called "Hot Beverage". :) http://bit.ly/dcEXX1 #perl" --esskar http://twitter.com/esskar/status/24103425719 |
| 13:18 |
sri |
esskar: i don't see the point of load_plugin_direct |
| 13:19 |
esskar |
i want write package Foo; use base 'Mojolicious::Plugin::Cms'; ... 1; |
| 13:19 |
sri |
esskar: we talked about that exact topic yesterday actually |
| 13:19 |
esskar |
and load plugin 'foo'; |
| 13:20 |
sri |
app->plugin('Foo') would work just as well |
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ptomli |
lol |
| 13:20 |
esskar |
why? |
| 13:21 |
sri |
we just need to check the first char for uppercase to detect a module name |
| 13:21 |
esskar |
wll, ok |
| 13:21 |
esskar |
+e |
| 13:22 |
esskar |
if you want to do that instead ... |
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sri |
it would be the cleaner solution, but i actually don't want it at all yet ;p |
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esskar |
daim it ;) |
| 13:23 |
sri |
why would anyone name a plugin Foo? |
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marcus |
why would anyone name a framework Mojo? |
| 13:24 |
sri |
because it deserves a root namespace? |
| 13:25 |
esskar |
sri Foo was just a "placeholder" ;) |
| 13:25 |
sri |
we've been playing around with MyApp::Plugin::* yesterday |
| 13:25 |
sri |
thats already possible |
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esskar |
i just read it |
| 13:26 |
esskar |
but then you are forced to use Mojolicous without ::Lite |
| 13:26 |
sri |
nono |
| 13:26 |
sri |
we've stepped back and allow people to add namespaces |
| 13:27 |
sri |
http://github.com/kraih/mojo/blob/master/t/mojolicious/lib/MojoliciousTest.pm#L22 |
| 13:27 |
sri |
there's an example |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: The next #mojolicious release will be called "Hot Beverage". :) http://bit.ly/dcEXX1 #perl" --marcusramberg http://twitter.com/marcusramberg/status/24104109331 |
| 13:28 |
sri |
i'm very much interested in making plugins more fun to use, but this specific topic is quite complicated and i think we might need to gather more experience before we can move forward again |
| 13:29 |
esskar |
hmm |
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sri |
allowing ->plugin('Foo::Bar') might be acceptable though |
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sri |
thoughts? |
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ptomli |
is Foo::Bar in that example the full package name? :) |
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sri |
it is |
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esskar |
i would like it |
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xantus[] |
it is?! |
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xantus[] |
;) |
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ptomli |
i want to look at the plugins in more detail, no comment at this point ;) |
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ptomli |
is it going to be possible for me to add condition/controller/action to the my-app routes output? |
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sri |
not sure what you mean |
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ptomli |
when you run script/my-app routes it prints out the path and regex, i would like to see conditions and controller/action too |
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sri |
no thats not possible |
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sri |
i think yko was working on a more verbose version of the command |
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ptomli |
but vti set the kgb on him, now we're lost... lost i tell you |
| 13:51 |
sri |
indeed :/ |
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esskar |
should Mojo::DOM->text not return the charset encoded text? |
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sri |
no |
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GitHub155 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 873be4d (5 files in 5 dirs): added experimental support for loading of plugins by full module name - http://bit.ly/99HJ7D |
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esskar |
\o/ |
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GitHub186 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * faa5e9c (1 files in 1 dirs): cleanup - http://bit.ly/b1Off6 |
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Rhaen |
puuuh! Just finished building a crappy xml ant based toolchain for work. |
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Rhaen |
time for some fun, hand over that mojolicious sources. |
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* ptomli |
thinks it Friday evening, fun == bears & vodka |
| 14:56 |
sri |
right, vti promised us a plugin! |
| 14:56 |
Rhaen |
ptomli: true. |
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Rhaen |
vti: where is it? We need it _NOW_! |
| 14:57 |
Rhaen |
:) |
| 14:58 |
ptomli |
i had to check, but he didn't promise per se, merely mentioned that he had to write one |
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sri |
sneaky vti |
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vti |
no time today, i have to refactor some bad written C code :( |
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* ptomli |
suggests h2xs |
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MojoGuest743 |
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MojoGuest743 |
test |
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ptomli |
boots: check, helmet: check; cash: .... |
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ptomli |
laters all |
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Rhaen |
is there any usable interface to couch db in perl or do you use it "plain" from mojolicous? |
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vti |
Rhaen: http://github.com/vti/mojox-common/blob/master/lib/MojoX/CouchDB.pm |
| 15:05 |
vti |
no docs, sorry :D |
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Rhaen |
hm, ok :) |
| 15:05 |
Rhaen |
I will look into it. However, time to go home for me. I'll start idling, see you later! |
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sri |
bbq time |
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xantus[] |
hi hi |
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marcus |
hmm |
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marcus |
Am I the only one having some trouble with google's dns servers today? |
| 16:00 |
marcus |
xantus[]: isn't it early for you to be online here? :) |
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xantus[] |
its like 11am here |
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xantus[] |
I'm in St Louis at mastercard |
| 16:08 |
marcus |
xantus[]: lucky you |
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ysyrota |
xantus[]: what is the value of sizeof(xantus)? :) |
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marcus |
xantus[]: their firewalls allow ssh/irc? |
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xantus[] |
marcus: no, we have to use 3G so I can get to corp email @ gmail |
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xantus[] |
and corp irc chan on freenode |
| 16:20 |
marcus |
xantus[]: the joys of enterprise consulting. |
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xantus[] |
yay... |
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xantus[] |
ysyrota: 0 |
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xantus[] |
so I have to work on their windoes pc too |
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xantus[] |
*GAG* |
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xantus[] |
can't connect unapproved hardware to their network too |
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xantus[] |
lol |
| 16:23 |
marcus |
xantus[]: why do they want you to be there at all? |
| 16:23 |
sri |
decoration? |
| 16:23 |
xantus[] |
lol |
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marcus |
it's like hiring a contractor and tell him he's not allowed to use any tools. |
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marcus |
"Yes, I want you to hit those nails with your bare hands. No cheating!" |
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* xantus[] |
nods |
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sri |
nobody ever got fired for not allowing something |
| 16:25 |
xantus[] |
very limiting |
| 16:25 |
xantus[] |
but what can you do? |
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sri |
it all comes down to that in the enterprise world |
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sri |
one of the things that sets apple apart, they take risks like a startup |
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marcus |
xantus[]: work for a startup? :) |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Did i mention how much i love the new #mojolicious helper system? :) #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/24119139062 |
| 16:38 |
esskar |
sri, what crap i'm able to do now: http://github.com/esskar/luzy/blob/master/lib/Luzy.pm |
| 16:38 |
esskar |
+see |
| 16:38 |
sri |
X_x |
| 16:40 |
esskar |
http://github.com/esskar/luzy/blob/master/lib/Luzy/Plugin/Iso639.pm and http://github.com/esskar/luzy/blob/master/luzy.pl |
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sri |
actually interesting |
| 16:42 |
esskar |
i know |
| 16:42 |
esskar |
ok, "partyevening" now ;) |
| 16:42 |
sri |
pluggable apps with plugins |
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sri |
you sir have redefined the term evil |
| 16:43 |
esskar |
]:) |
| 16:43 |
tab |
hi |
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marcus |
tab: ho |
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* sri |
waves |
| 16:44 |
sri |
these pluggable application experiments will be very very interesting to watch and learn from |
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esskar |
first i had Mojolicious::Plugin::Cms::Plugin::Iso639 in mind |
| 16:46 |
esskar |
but that just looked ugly |
| 16:46 |
sri |
indeed |
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marcus |
I love Luzy? |
| 16:47 |
esskar |
marcus, not yet, wait until i'm done with her |
| 16:47 |
esskar |
ok got to go. the other girl is waiting |
| 16:48 |
marcus |
esskar: you dog. |
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tab |
i´ve got an encoding problem. until now everything worked well: umlauts were displayed correctly when they came from the mysql database. |
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tab |
but now they are displayed as these stranged question marks |
| 16:48 |
tab |
do you have any idea where i should search? |
| 16:49 |
marcus |
tab: did you turn on utf8 in DBD::mysql? |
| 16:50 |
tab |
no, i´m using DBIx::Class |
| 16:50 |
tab |
i will look there |
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marcus |
tab you probably need mysql_enable_utf8 in connect_info |
| 16:54 |
tab |
yes, thanks. |
| 16:54 |
tab |
i´ve added it :-) |
| 16:54 |
tab |
i only wonder why this work so long without this option ... |
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janus |
autodetection was it for me |
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janus |
only a few days back i realized being an utf8nazi can have it's merits ;) |
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GitHub167 |
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sri |
isn't it pretty? :) |
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sri |
*crickets* |
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* sri |
cries |
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* marcus |
gives sri an atomic wedgie. |
| 17:16 |
marcus |
Now you really have something to cry about. |
| 17:16 |
marcus |
also, my internet is borkbork, so I cannot connect to github atm |
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sri |
IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD! |
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sri |
<- getting a little crazier every day |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "@kraih Mojolicious doesnt handle parallell fetching in Mojo:Client + keep-alive? #Mojolicious" --farnejoppa http://twitter.com/farnejoppa/status/24124438753 |
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xantus[] |
HOT COFFEE |
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marcus |
sri: is that true? |
| 18:52 |
sri |
marcus: what? |
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marcus |
what farnejoppa said |
| 18:53 |
sri |
of course not |
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marcus |
but if you are doing paralell requests to the same host? |
| 18:53 |
marcus |
will it start parallel requests? |
| 18:53 |
sri |
it will |
| 18:53 |
marcus |
or use the same keepalive |
| 18:53 |
marcus |
ok |
| 18:54 |
sri |
fetching stuff sequential you can do yourself, wouldn't be much of a point doing that internally |
| 18:55 |
marcus |
sri: guess he's just referring to the keep-alive issue you fixed yesterday. |
| 18:56 |
sri |
no point guessing |
| 18:56 |
sri |
if he wants to be understood he needs to be more specific ;p |
| 18:56 |
marcus |
sri: it's the sysadmin from startsiden. |
| 18:56 |
marcus |
so I'm pretty sure that is what he means |
| 18:56 |
sri |
ah |
| 18:58 |
marcus |
ooh, hypnotoad is in trunk now. |
| 18:58 |
marcus |
didn't notice |
| 18:58 |
sri |
it's not |
| 18:59 |
marcus |
it's in changes |
| 18:59 |
sri |
still messing with making it easier |
| 18:59 |
sri |
the changes lie :) |
| 18:59 |
marcus |
is it cake? |
| 18:59 |
* marcus |
is drinking port |
| 18:59 |
sri |
Oo |
| 19:00 |
marcus |
cake+port == win |
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xantus[] |
port 22 |
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marcus |
port wine |
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xantus[] |
;P |
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xantus[] |
NO, PORT 22 |
| 19:00 |
marcus |
NO, IT'S ONLY 10 YEARS OLD |
| 19:00 |
marcus |
and it won't get a lot older |
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xantus[] |
nothing is on port 10 |
| 19:01 |
marcus |
Unassigned is |
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xantus[] |
lol, port 9 is discard |
| 19:01 |
marcus |
don't discard the port! |
| 19:01 |
marcus |
drink it instead. |
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sri |
good wine is older than SMTP? |
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xantus[] |
:) |
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marcus |
sri: I tried a glass of 75 year old port during YAPC::EU a few years back |
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marcus |
was totally worth the 18 euros I paid for it. |
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sri |
i don't like wine at all |
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sri |
having a thing for cuban cigars though |
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marcus |
I don't like red wine |
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marcus |
port isn't the same thing tho |
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marcus |
it's more like sweet cognac. |
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Rhaen_ |
hep. |
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Rhaen_ |
vti: I've checked all the repos! Have you finished the vodka plugin already? |
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sri: begin and end is pretty :) |
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marcus |
huh, so couchdbx is rebranded as couchone now |
| 19:46 |
marcus |
interesting |
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marcus |
vti: t/mojox/couchdb/00setup.t .......................... 1/3 Fri Sep 10 21:54:53 2010 error Mojo::Client:762 [76395]: Event "read" failed for connection "IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0x100af7ac0)": Can't locate object method "has_error" via package "Mojo::Transaction::HTTP" at /Users/marcus/Source/mojox-common/lib/MojoX/CouchDB/Base.pm line 133. |
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marcus |
did Mojo::Transaction::HTTP changed? |
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marcus |
-D |
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marcus |
NEED MOAR PORT |
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chansen |
bier++ |
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esskar_ |
agreed |
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esskar_ |
$c->param does not read anything from stash, does it? |
| 20:03 |
esskar_ |
oh, it does |
| 20:03 |
esskar_ |
thats evil |
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marcus |
$c? |
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esskar_ |
$c as in $self |
| 20:04 |
esskar_ |
as in controller |
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marcus |
$celf |
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esskar_ |
i thought it's just s shortcut to $self->req->param |
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xantus[] |
wait, $c->param reads from the stash? |
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marcus |
my $params = $self->stash->{'mojo.params'} || $self->req->params; |
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marcus |
so that routes can add to them, apparently |
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esskar_ |
whats {'mojo.params'}? |
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marcus |
it's a clone of the params |
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marcus |
my $p = $c->stash->{'mojo.params'} ||= $c->tx->req->params->clone; |
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xantus[] |
HIDE YOUR KIDS, HIDE YOUR WIFE |
| 21:21 |
xantus[] |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y54yESyq6Io |
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xantus[] |
then watch this one |
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xantus[] |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw&NR=1 |
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sri |
esskar: not the whole stash |
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sri |
$self->param is $self->req->param + route captures |
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sri |
only captured values, not the whole stash |
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sri |
marcus: still says couchdbx here |
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sri |
you americans are weird |
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sri |
i'll never click on a youtube link again |
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GitHub177 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 98f478d (1 files in 1 dirs): cleanup - http://bit.ly/cwynER |
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vti |
whiskey! |
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sri |
! |
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tempire |
americans++ ! |
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tempire |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI |
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