Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2010-09-12

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00:25 perlrocks Twitter: "#Luzy is getting into a state where it's worth it to tell people about http://github.com/esskar/luzy #perl #mojolicious #cms" --esskar http://twitter.com/esskar/status/24238112039
00:29 perlrocks Twitter: "RT @esskar: #Luzy is getting into a state where it's worth it to tell people about http://github.com/esskar/luzy #perl #mojolicious #cms" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/24238373089
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01:15 tempire esskar: I guess it's not quite there yet, since there's no readme.
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06:43 MojoGuest167 From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (65 hits)
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07:31 esskar_ tempire: done ;)
07:34 perlrocks Twitter: "It's interesting RT @kraih Added experimental support for indented perl lines in #mojolicious templates today. :) http://bit.ly/b5eGLF #perl" --sharifulin http://twitter.com/sharifulin/status/24265173288
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11:26 sri xantus: have you looked over the new long polling api, is it ok now or are there any other changes we should make?
11:28 sri http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private # wow, they made an open ec2 alternative
11:52 Alias__ nice
11:52 Alias__ Was bound to happen eventually
12:16 DaTa rakudo: [1..3] <<->> [4..6]
12:16 DaTa rakudo: my @x = [1..3] <<->> [4..6]; say @x.perl
12:17 DaTa damn, wrong window :)
12:19 sri heh
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12:22 sri hmm, i would switch to vim if file navigation wasn't so horrible
12:37 DaTa sri: https://wincent.com/products/command-t :)
12:42 sri DaTa: it's not just opening files, also working on multiple files at the same time
12:43 vti you can open files in buffers and issue commands on every buffer
12:43 sri i know
12:43 sri i just don't like it
12:55 janus i'm happy with minibufexplorer, just like tabs for buffers
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14:00 sri might give it a try anyway
14:01 sri maybe worth getting the peepcode screencasts about vim :)
14:03 sri my vim knowledge is basically limted to vi
14:05 sri https://peepcode.com/products/smash-into-vim-ii
14:05 * sri wonders if mojo.vim is up to date
14:06 * sri prepares the whip in case syntax highlighting is not perfect
14:06 vti i am afraid 'begin' and 'end' blocks are not supported
14:06 vti but i could be wrong
14:08 sri :O
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15:06 maettu may I ask again: my qooxdoo-dispatcher, shouldn't it be put in MojoX instead Plugins (as sri suggested some days ago)?
15:07 sri possibly both
15:08 maettu my choice?
15:08 sri yes and no ;p
15:09 sri mojox is for reusable parts, plugin for convenient wrappers around these parts
15:09 maettu sri: please decide
15:10 sri mojox module would contain the raw dispatcher, the plugin would connect the dispatcher with mojolicious plugin hooks
15:11 sri here's a thing i love about macvim...fullscreen mode!
15:12 maettu o.k.
15:15 sri vti: mojo.vim is full of typos :S
15:18 sri vti: btw. begin/end doesn't need special support since it looks like perl code
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15:22 vti sri: could be
15:22 vti patches welcome! ;p
15:22 sri i'm gonna rewrite everything for latest mojolicious :o
15:22 vti oO
15:23 vti vim script pro? :)
15:23 sri need to learn vim scripting anyway now
15:23 vti sri: hm, where did you find mojo.vim?
15:23 vti it's now epl.vim
15:24 sri it's as mojo.vim on vim.org
15:24 sri but contains epl.vim
15:24 vti ah, ok
15:28 tempire are peepcode screencasts really worth it?
15:28 sri yes
15:29 tempire hmm, guess so.  I've been using vim for years and already learned something in the vim free preview
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15:43 sri already got a custom theme :D
15:49 vti where is it?
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15:55 sri ok, made epl.vim work with all latest changes, now on to the data syntax :S
15:55 sri looks like it uses magic i don't understand yet though
15:55 sri vti: it's not finished
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15:57 sri if !exists("b:current_syntax")
15:57 sri that seems to always trigger
16:00 sri actually i can't get it to work at all
16:02 sri vti: is there a trick for defining the autocmd or so?
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16:06 vti sri: autocmd?
16:06 sri the stuff i need to add to my .vimrc to get DATA syntax highlighting
16:08 sri because the b:current_syntax check always triggers for me
16:08 vti you can put it into ftdetect
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16:10 sri vti: doesn't change a thing though
16:10 sri autocmd FileType perl syn include @perlDATA syntax/data_epl.vim
16:11 sri if !exists("b:current_syntax") # and thats the first line of data_epl.vim which always triggers
16:12 sri vim 7.3
16:13 vti and if you add it manually it doesn't work still?
16:13 sri lets see
16:14 sri works flawless manually
16:16 vti it doesn't work here automatically too :D
16:16 sri -.-
16:16 sri but i want it automatic!
16:17 sri all my updates for data_epl.vim seem to work too
16:17 sri now make it automatic!
16:27 sri HAH!
16:27 sri vti: got it working ;p
16:27 vti tell me!
16:27 sri NEVER!
16:28 vti bastard
16:28 vti sri: please!
16:29 sri http://pastie.org/1153971
16:30 sri there might be side effects though
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16:31 sri oh right exists is better
16:31 vti looks hacky
16:33 sri http://pastie.org/1153978 # this is better
16:33 sri no sideeffects as far as i can see
16:34 sri hey, i just learned vim today... don't expect perfect code from me yet ;p
16:34 vti i don't know vim scripts either :)
16:34 sri -.-
16:35 vti you can use perl, python or ruby these days
16:35 sri indented perl line support is easy too just add a few \s*
16:36 sri i've also removed everything i didn't understand :D
16:37 vti that's usually good :D
16:37 sri looks ok still though
16:37 vti i consider vim scripts as magic
16:38 vti i would want some essential plugins too
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16:49 sri vti: how do i enabe a second bar above the command bar showing me the current file name and position?
16:50 sri *enable
16:52 sri ah, set laststatus
16:54 vti sri: https://gist.github.com/2d76807f6737d5ef75cb
16:55 sri thanks already got it, theming now :)
16:57 sri starts to look really nice
17:00 vti post a screenshot :)
17:02 vti sri: http://core.org.ua/~vti/tmp/shot.png
17:02 vti here is mine
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17:05 sri ouch, overloaded!
17:17 sri making a screenshot now
17:17 sri it's unfinished though
17:22 perlrocks Twitter: "Here's a screenshot of my current #macvim setup with a custom theme i'm still working on. #mojolicious #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/24301265105
17:23 sri ops, forgot screenshot -.-
17:23 perlrocks Twitter: "Here's a screenshot of my current #macvim setup with a custom theme i'm still working on. http://bit.ly/cmCuUo #mojolicious #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/24301333949
17:24 sri now :)
17:25 sri http://twitpic.com/2nte2k/full
17:26 sri i would like to have the statusline right bound i think
17:30 DaTa sri: what's the name of this font?
17:31 sri menlo
17:32 sri think i'll start using vim without plugins for now to learn more
17:37 sri maybe the colors should be a bit darker
17:42 DaTa i like the fu-theme very much
17:43 DaTa http://www.vim.org/scripts​/script.php?script_id=3117
17:46 sri i prefer pastel colors
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17:52 sri does anyone want to take over the mojolicious tmbundle?
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18:07 sri i'm pretty confident about the vim switch, so i give up maintaining the tmbundle
18:08 DaTa sri: welcome to the dark side :)
18:08 sri :D
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18:57 sri hmm, think i'll go more minimalistic with the theme
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19:17 sri http://twitpic.com/2nuchf/full # more minimalistic
19:19 perlrocks Twitter: "Think i'll go with a more minimalistic #vim theme. http://twitpic.com/2nuchf/full #mojolicious #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/24309413233
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20:28 esskar_ sri, when --reload is set? is this an environement setting then?
20:28 sri yes
20:29 esskar_ which one?
20:29 sri MOJO_RELOAD
20:30 esskar_ nice
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20:47 sri also getting the vi/vim book i guess :)
20:54 sri the things i actually dislike most are not what i expected
20:54 sri i really miss smooth scrolling
20:55 sri vim scrolling is not very pleasant for my eyes
20:56 sri full screen mode rocks totally though
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21:17 tempire I did the http://twitpic.com/2nuchf/full theme.  Did you download it?
21:18 tempire (sri)
21:19 sri Oo
21:19 sri actually i cut and pasted from all over the web and picked colors myself
21:21 sri it is based on textmate twilight
21:22 tempire I've enjoyed ir_black, but I'm ready for a change.
21:22 sri where is the theme you made?
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21:24 Rhaen_ sorry!
21:25 Rhaen_ ah, good evening, tho :)
21:25 * sri waves
21:26 Rhaen_ holy! This eclipse egit thing seems to be a full flavoured horrorshow
21:28 tempire I didn't make it, downloaded it.  http://blog.infinitered.com​/entry_files/8/ir_black.vim
21:28 tempire shot: http://twitpic.com/2nvjhp
21:29 Rhaen_ hm, looks cool :)
21:30 sri "[23:17] tempire: I did the http://twitpic.com/2nuchf/full theme.  Did you download it?"
21:30 tempire Ah
21:30 tempire s/did/dig/
21:31 sri lol
21:31 sri not 100% happy with the colors yet, think i'll go a little bit darker
21:32 Rhaen_ sri: don't blame for the last pull request. I am trying to learn eclipse and egit.
21:33 sri ok, i'm not gonna merge from that branch though, just copypasta ;p
21:33 sri but actually i think wget is dead
21:34 Rhaen_ hm, true. Skip it then :)
21:34 sri it became unmaintained
21:34 Rhaen_ but change the "' thing.
21:35 sri well, i don't mind practice pull requests, just make a note and i'll discard
21:36 Rhaen_ hm, I thought it might be easier for you
21:37 Rhaen_ so I've send one :)
21:44 Rhaen_ err. sent one :)
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