Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2010-09-30

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00:00 und3f is now known as und3f[A]
01:28 alnewkirk sri?
01:29 sri alnewkirk?
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01:31 GitHub146 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 4d9d5b9 (1 files in 1 dirs): cleanup
01:31 GitHub146 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 4e109ae (2 files in 2 dirs): added nth-child selector to Mojo::DOM
01:31 GitHub146 mojo: master commits d3d0c6c...4e109ae - http://bit.ly/aXkDLl
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01:31 sri wow, this one was really hard
01:32 sri way too many special cases
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02:10 tempire Well, that was easy.  All I had to do was plan on making :nth_child, and someone goes and does it.
02:16 sri i'm in your head!
02:23 tempire I have to finish the obj-c port.
02:24 tempire working with obj-c has really made me realize how wonderful perl is
02:24 sri haha
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02:44 tempire !
02:45 tempire git is distributed with a built in web tool
02:46 crab you mean gitweb?
02:46 crab or git instaweb, or what?
02:47 crab what are you porting to obj-c?
02:47 tempire git instaweb
02:47 tempire Mojo::DOM
03:01 omega sri: have you seen http://howtonode.org/websockets-socketio ?
03:03 omega and perhaps more specifically http://socket.io/
03:07 polvo what is the common way to keep urls being used in templates?
03:09 polvo i mean i could save it somewhere in the app or in a template, but what is the best practice?
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03:21 tempire polvo: urls for existing routes?  or external urls?
03:22 tempire if they're for routes, just use the url_for template helper
03:23 polvo tempire, both. they are almost the same, routes and external urls
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04:00 MojoGuest426 so, next step: flying cocks for IRC?
04:00 MojoGuest426 :P
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05:24 polvo is it possible to add custom method from a perl module to a row?
05:29 polvo never mind
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08:29 kvorg Silly question, before I commit silly mistakes: if I understand correctly, the cache helper runs the code once, caches its result as a string in the compiled template, and just uses the string. Then the life time of the cache is the lifetime of the server - one request for CGI, but much much longer for Daemon-Prefork (ie Hypnotoad), FastCGI and Pluckup/ModPerl? And the cost in the CGI case is negligible. Did I get it right?
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08:32 kvorg Ahh. Silly me. That is what I get for browsing commits instead of up-to-date docs. The caching recipe explains it all in less words I used im my question.
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08:40 marcus_ o/' is it a sin, is it a crime / loving you dear like I do / if it's a crime, then I'm guilty / guilty of loving you / if it's a crime then I'm guilty / guilty of dreaming of you o/'
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09:29 MojoGuest726 Hi
09:29 MojoGuest726 /NAMES
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09:59 viking-3 hi there! i have a problem with Mojolicious::Plugin::TtRenderer, install fails, and after a force install, when i enable it with $self->plugin('tt_renderer') at daemon startup I have segmentation fault
09:59 viking-3 any idea?
10:01 viking-3 it's strange because I saw that reports are good on that version (0.40)
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10:07 vti viking-3: are you trying it with the latest mojo from git?
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10:31 marcus_ hmm
10:31 marcus_ looks like we have some more mojo client trouble
10:31 marcus_ just switched from apache to nginx on our web service
10:31 marcus_ and the mojo client clips an 11k xml document after about 2k
10:31 marcus_ even tho the content-length is rigth
10:31 marcus_ right
10:37 marcus_ it works fine with the catalyst standalone server.
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10:47 marcus_ sri: HALP
10:47 * marcus_ tries to look closer with HTTPScoop
10:53 sri marcus: sounds like a fixed bug
10:53 sri sounds like your production server might be running an older version
10:54 marcus_ sri: reset by peer
10:54 marcus_ according to httpscoop
10:54 marcus_ lemme try with trunk
10:54 sri yes, sounds like the bug
10:56 marcus_ still happens
10:57 sri 2k is just about what fits into the kernel send buffer at a time, thats what makes me so sure
10:57 sri try to make a test case then
10:58 marcus_ curl gets Closed by peer, mojolicious gets reset by pee
10:58 marcus_ peer
10:58 sri test case please
10:58 marcus_ 2712
10:59 marcus_ is the body we get
10:59 marcus_ suggestions for how to test it?
10:59 sri does it happen with "mojo get" too?
10:59 marcus_ happens with perl -Mojo -e'print g("http://ws.tv.startsiden.no/v2/channels?minimal​=1&site=cd-no&channels=TV4&time_zo​ne=Europe/Oslo&day=0&api_key=facb99c2-​88c2-d1d7-a70a-0d2170ad4e51&with_events=1")->body'
11:00 marcus_ sri: yes
11:01 sri works flawless here
11:02 marcus_ right, that's not actually the url
11:02 marcus_ I have a test server in my hosts file
11:02 marcus_ works fine for me too against apache.
11:02 marcus_ I'm getting our sysadmins to get up a public url
11:13 marcus_ sri: mojo get "http://kua.ws.tv.startsiden.no/v2/channels?mini​mal=1&site=cd-no&channels=TV4&time_​zone=Europe/Oslo&day=0&api_key=facb99c2​-88c2-d1d7-a70a-0d2170ad4e51&with_events=1"
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11:20 viking-3 vti: no, latest from CPAN
11:20 marcus_ sri: seeing it?
11:20 sri marcus_: yes on it
11:21 vti viking-3: try git version
11:22 viking-3 i had installed MojoX::Renderer::TT 0.31 before without problems, but that didn't have the Mojolicious plugin
11:29 sri marcus_: oh, might not be ioloop relatec and just a parser bug
11:34 sri oh, it is in fact a parser error
11:34 sri an old error call was still adding a 400 code
11:34 sri so it wouldn't be shown
11:35 sri ah now i see it
11:35 sri mawhere is the 200 message?
11:35 sri *marcus_
11:35 sri HTTP/1.1 200\r\n\r\n
11:35 sri thats what nginx sends
11:36 sri now i have to consult the rfc :)
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11:50 marcus_ sorry, was out getting some snack :)
11:50 marcus_ sri: sounds like fun times.
11:50 marcus_ is nginx fucking with the HTTP spec?
11:51 sri the spec is not very specific there
11:51 sri it seems to imply that there will always be a reason phrase
11:52 sri anyway, we are pragmatic, so we'll support no phrase
11:52 sri already got a unit test
11:56 marcus_ sri++
12:00 marcus_ sri: seems the ruby guys had the same problem :-) http://code.google.com/p/phusion​-passenger/issues/detail?id=278
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12:01 sri marcus_: there ya go
12:03 * sri needs a snack now
12:03 marcus_ sri: cheers
12:03 * marcus_ is snacking on baby carrots
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12:09 sri anyone pleayed with riak yet?
12:09 sri *-e
12:09 marcus_ nope, busy with mongobongo atm
12:10 marcus_ sri: I'm writing Mojolicious::Guides::Testing, btw
12:10 sri the links feature of riak seems quite cool, but it is so hard to get good information
12:10 sri :O
12:11 marcus_ Mostly it's collecting info from your reference documentation.
12:11 sri is it enought to get its own guide?
12:12 marcus_ I think so.
12:12 marcus_ have 243 words so far
12:12 marcus_ think I'll get it up to about 500
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12:12 sri that would indeed be enough
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14:10 sri not sure i like :ntp-child()
14:10 sri it is damn powerful but so easy to get wrong
14:11 sri nobody understands the equations without a cheatsheet
14:12 sri or does anyone here know what div:nth-child(2n+1) means? :)
14:13 sri (googling does not count)
14:13 sri ;p
14:14 omega sri: I'm gonna guess every even child
14:14 sri wrong
14:15 omega err, odd ofc
14:15 omega +1
14:15 sri thats correct
14:15 sri how about -n+3? :)
14:16 omega reverse sorting I presume, possibly skipping first 3 childs?
14:16 sri selecting the first 3 children
14:16 omega nope, don't see that one :p
14:17 sri http://css-tricks.com/how-nth-child-works/
14:17 omega I think my solution made more sense :p
14:17 sri it's quite hard
14:17 sri also the fact that it works for all children is confusing
14:18 sri div:nth-child(odd) doesn't select only odd div elements
14:18 sri it selects div elements that happen to be odd children of the parent
14:19 sri so mixed in <br /> for example changes everything
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14:20 marcus_ write more specific selectors :)
14:21 marcus_ but yeah, it can be hard
14:24 omega hah, 2-1 doesn't work
14:24 omega at least not in this test-page thing
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14:27 marcus_ sri: http://gist.github.com/604658 <- first draft of the testing guide. Will add some more content.
14:28 * marcus_ heads for the subway.
14:29 sri marcus_: good start, would be cool if it explained selectors
14:30 xantus hey hey
14:30 xantus I'm starting a WebDav plugin for mojo
14:30 marcus_ sweet
14:30 xantus http://github.com/xantus/mojo-plugin-webdav  (click watch)  :)
14:31 xantus theres no code upped yet
14:31 * marcus_ obediently clicks
14:31 xantus \o/
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14:44 GitHub109 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 3aea44a (2 files in 2 dirs): added nth-last-child pseudo class - http://bit.ly/9pJ9pY
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14:44 * sri waves
14:44 sri this one was easier to implement but is even harder to grok
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14:52 kvorg sri: u are a genious for the testing guide. I am just writing the tests for my plugin. (But the title still says Rendering.)
14:52 sri it was marcus
14:53 kvorg ups, sorry
14:54 kvorg marcus++
14:54 kvorg so marcus is a genious :-P
14:54 * sri cries
14:54 kvorg come on, evil robot genious would be a mouthufl
14:54 kvorg *mouthful
15:02 sri you're just saying that... :,(
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15:08 GitHub99 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * f5474c1 (2 files in 2 dirs): added nth-child-of-type and nth-last-child-of-type selectors to Mojo::DOM - http://bit.ly/aFdrm7
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15:08 sri yay, done with the nth-* selectors
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15:24 xantus sri: did you click *watch* yet :)
15:25 sri xantus: where?
15:27 xantus http://github.com/xantus/mojo-plugin-webdav
15:27 sri oh
15:27 sri Oo
15:27 sri empty
15:27 sri oO
15:28 xantus I'm starting
15:28 sri cool
15:28 xantus I have my POE webdav server, I'll convert that
15:29 xantus it passes almost all of the litmus tests
15:29 xantus http://www.webdav.org/neon/litmus/
15:29 sri btw. NIN - Ghosts I-IV is great music for hacking
15:32 xantus I have the new nin tracks
15:32 sri ghosts is different, industrial ambient music :)
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15:37 kvorg nifty, webdav will be a nice match for file-based applications and examples
15:38 kvorg writing tests is difficult, every time I think of a corner case for my damn extra tag helpers, I have to fix some corner bug
15:38 * kvorg stomps in corners just to be sure.
15:40 kvorg or typos in examples, damn
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16:06 xantus well, just dropping in
16:07 xantus oh, before I go
16:08 xantus whats the non blocking file io plan for mojo?
16:08 sri can't be done without xs
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16:09 sri there is basically just IO::AIO
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16:09 xantus I was thinking about using my filesys::virtual::async (which uses io::aio)
16:10 sri E + F and E ~ F!
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16:11 sri is there special support needed from our side?
16:11 xantus I'll update filesys::virtual to use io::file or io::aio
16:11 tempire_ Testing guide?
16:11 xantus we'll see
16:12 sri aio uses a fake signal or so,doesn't it?
16:12 xantus yeah, we'll need a read watcher on its fileno trigger
16:13 xantus open( my $fh, "<&=".poll_fileno() ) ...
16:14 xantus like I did in poco aio
16:14 xantus http://search.cpan.org/~xantus​/POE-Component-AIO-1.00/AIO.pm
16:15 sri i see, a simple hack might already work
16:16 xantus yea
16:16 sri $ioloop->connect(socket => $handle) or so
16:16 sri that should give you a read watcher
16:17 kvorg would anyone be interested if I add optional use of a diff module in Test::Mojo when showing faild resulst of content_is() ?
16:17 sri ?
16:18 kvorg so that if the module is installed, you get a diff insteat of got '...' expected '...'
16:18 kvorg (i found looking up differences in long table output quite painful :-) ...)
16:19 sri sounds like much work for little gain
16:19 sri can it be done non core?
16:22 kvorg there is Text::Diff ... and it would simply use it if the module is present
16:22 kvorg *Text:: Diff
16:22 kvorg and even that just in the case of a failure anyway
16:22 sri it still makes maintainance a lot harder
16:23 sri i bet it would be extremely hard to test properly
16:23 sri lots of possible trouble :)
16:23 kvorg sorry, I don't get you. it would not be used for testing, just for displaying the differences in the case of a failure
16:23 sri a feature needs to be tested itself
16:24 sri no matter if it makes the testing process more convenient
16:24 kvorg ahhh. will think about it hard then.
16:24 sri it doesn't sound hard to do non core
16:25 sri then testing is at least not my problem ;)
16:25 kvorg non-core, as in out of the Mojolicious distribution?
16:26 sri right
16:26 sri like a simple Test::Mojo subclass
16:26 kvorg good point there
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16:35 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojo::DOM is really growing up now. :) http://bit.ly/bpJyCR #perl #mojolicious" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/25995608462
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16:35 sri the sibling combinators should be very good for testing
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16:38 vti mojo::dom tests could a good introduction to css selectors :)
16:38 vti *could be
16:38 sri hehe
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16:39 vti with tests you have docs, specs and examples
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16:39 sri TDD is just awesome
16:39 vti still don't get why people don't like tdd
16:40 sri it's the write only code mentality
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16:53 sri looks like riak is getting built in fulltext search
16:54 sri could turn out to be quite cool
16:54 perlrocks Twitter: "Perl. Using Mojolicious-application in a separate script http://ff.im/rmWQ9" (ru) --sharifulin http://twitter.com/sharifulin/status/25997215754
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17:03 perlrocks Twitter: "Anatoly Sharifulin: Perl. Using Mojolicious-application in a separate script http://ff.im/rmYFX" (ru) --planetperlru http://twitter.com/planetperlru/status/25997907412
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17:24 vti 08:40 <@sri> riak doesn't look cool
17:24 sri :O
17:25 sri was that when marcus asked me about riak?
17:25 sri the big problem is that you need to dig deep and uncover a good talk to actually get what is about
17:26 sri *+it
17:26 vti ye, marcus
17:26 vti but the first one who talked about riak on this channel was... me!
17:27 sri the actual design of riak seems so right
17:35 sri oh well, in the end i'll go back to couchdb anyway :)
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18:12 vti sri: if you read sharifulin's port you would understand why he needs a default tx object
18:12 vti *post
18:14 vti use google translate :)
18:27 sri vti: think i added it yesterday
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18:44 vti sri++ # too bad we don't have karma bot
18:44 sri \o/
18:45 vti sri! # factorial!
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18:46 vti hm... long time since i donated beer to mojo project
18:46 * sri blames vti for the beer shortage
18:47 vti give 5 min!
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18:52 perlrocks Twitter: "Just donated $100 to the awesome #Mojolicious project. Sebastian++! Let's support the best #Perl web framework!" --vtivti http://twitter.com/vtivti/status/26005694449
18:53 sri thanks :)
18:54 vti get some beer!
18:54 sri i will!
18:56 vti funny thing that mojo inspired me for creating many good projects, that's a good marketing thing too )
18:57 sri o/' Was wollen wir trinken, 7 Tage lang. Was wollen wir trinken, so ein Durst. o/'
18:58 sri all marketing is good marketing ;)
19:00 vti maybe you should consider the same thing that mst does (shadowcat co) for mojolicious? paid support and stuf
19:01 sri possible, but for now i have a slightly different evil plan ;)
19:01 vti ok :)
19:05 vti will i get help without writing a test being on paid support? :D
19:07 sri lol
19:08 vti anyway, your support is f*cking awesome, which framework delivers the same speed? :)
19:08 sri :D
19:10 sri i just love what i do
19:11 janus 20:58:49 <@sri> all marketing is good marketing ;)
19:11 janus can't agree anymore since yesterday :>
19:11 sri how come?
19:11 janus moose fud :>
19:11 sri ?
19:11 janus ok, mabye doesnt qualify as marketing anymore
19:11 vti fud? what's that?
19:12 sri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki​/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
19:12 sri in the end even rants are good marketing, it puts you on peoples radar
19:12 janus there was a moose fanboy in another channel... who said everything but the important things
19:12 vti ah
19:12 janus more along the lines of ``everyone else is doing it wrong''
19:13 vti janus: it's like you suck? :)
19:13 janus if it was only personal to me i wouldnt have said anything, but i dont like general insults ;)
19:14 vti i like moose for their effort being a better oop for perl, but i don't use it :(
19:14 sri well, irc is not that good for marketing, it's over too quick
19:14 janus heh, true
19:16 janus anything that helps to get a job done is nice... example: mojolicious for webapps :)
19:17 vti mojolicious is just awesome, simply as that :)
19:17 vti you know athat guy who created catalyst :D
19:17 vti *that
19:18 sri did someone accidentally spill aome coolaid on vti? :D
19:18 sri s/a/s/
19:18 sri a/c/k/
19:19 sri argh
19:19 sri s/a/s/
19:19 vti ;D
19:20 janus s/created/invented/ # it went offtopic ages ago imho
19:20 vti hm.. i have to blog something, it's been awhile
19:21 vti janus: founded... :)
19:21 sri am i missing something here?
19:22 vti sri: do you know where he lives? :)
19:22 sri no idea
19:22 vti somewhere in germany
19:22 janus not anymore
19:23 janus anyways, what i mean is that cat went into a strange direction since moose
19:23 vti janus: it was alicedsl the last time you entered
19:24 janus vti: maybe, yet i'm not in germany
19:24 janus about to relocate to .nl
19:24 vti janus: ok, ok :)
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19:25 vti i wonder why so many hosting providers forbid irc bots
19:26 janus because irc is [ae]ffective? ;)
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19:26 sri bandwidth drain?
19:26 janus i guess more fear of attacks
19:27 vti no idea, bandwidth is really small
19:27 sri but constant and adds up
19:28 vti i am trying to find some vpn providers... and looks like it easier :D
19:28 sri ec2?
19:29 sri they have a 14 euro per month instance now
19:29 vti i was thinking about that, but was not sure about their terms
19:29 und3f vti, try burst.net
19:29 und3f vti, ~5$ :P
19:29 vti und3f: :)
19:30 sri well, if you want a real server i suggest hetzner.de
19:30 und3f our dedicated server is also at burst.net
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19:31 vti sri: well, they don'e accept russian (read as crazy) internet transfer accounts :D
19:31 sri oh
19:31 * vti watching great balls of fire
19:32 vti hm... i might want to add it to the twitter :D
19:33 sri think i need to see Monsters http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1470827/
19:33 vti sri: have you read The Day of the Triffids?
19:34 vti d*mn awesome book
19:34 sri nope, just seen the last tv movie
19:34 vti know nothing about the movie
19:35 sri http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1332653/
19:37 vti for me the book is like #1 in sci-f
19:37 vti *sci-fi
19:38 vti revelation type
19:39 vti or branch.. i dont
19:39 vti know
19:39 sri Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is my #1 i think
19:40 sri blade runner is also my favorite movie of all time
19:40 vti sh*t, going to read it
19:41 vti how about asimov? :)
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19:42 sri didn't read asimov yet
19:43 vti a must for a robot :)
19:43 sri need no stinkin rules....
19:45 sri i loved h g wells when i was younger
19:45 stephen I like one of PKD's original titles for "Do Androids Dream": "The Killers Are Among Us, Cried Rick Deckard To The Special Man"
19:46 vti sri: 15? :)
19:46 sri vti: actually yes :D
19:46 * vti feels dumb
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19:53 vti :D
19:54 vti you take black hand, you take white hand, and you get rock-n-roll :D
19:54 * vti shuts up :)
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20:18 sri heh
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20:31 kvorg sri: I actaully was hired to translate Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep into Slovenian. :-P
20:31 sri :D
20:31 kvorg Lem > Asimov
20:31 kvorg stephen: LoL at the original title, did not know that!!
20:32 kvorg sri: About robots: Have you read Lem's Fairy Tales for Robot Children (or some such, the Trurl and Clapacious stories)
20:32 sri nope
20:33 kvorg mucho recommended, especaillay if you like funny side of Lem, such as Ion Ticky's diaries.
20:34 vti i don't lke lem
20:34 kvorg for me, that is a cornerstone of Sci-Fi: every damn idea or concept before the advent of virtuality and networking has been first used in there, then expanded to the impossible and turn into absurd.
20:34 kvorg damn. u don't? :-(
20:34 kvorg well, your loss, it goes well with beer and pot.
20:34 vti too much anti religion thing
20:35 kvorg hmmm. in Ticky? Lemme think.
20:35 kvorg *Tichy.
20:35 stephen I think it's called the Cyberiad out here (Trurl and Claupacious)
20:35 kvorg Yeah, thank you! Could not remember off the top of my hat.
20:36 vti solaris thing
20:37 kvorg I am not sure religion is really mocked off any more than any other human idea or concept, really, at least in the Tichy series.
20:38 vti i am not against or for religion, but it is just everywhere, lem is just about it
20:38 kvorg what about post-PKD? Morgan? Asher? (I need to know if head hunting and crabs are acceptable metaphors for this channel)
20:39 kvorg vti: I disagree. There is not a single bit of religion in the whole Pirx series, in Eden etc. Also, Eden is the only book with no mention of a female character I ever read, so it might have been about not being about the usual things.
20:39 vti post-PKD? wtf?
20:39 kvorg Philip-K-Dick?
20:39 stephen I like Morgan's Kovacs novels.
20:40 kvorg stephen: Takeshi is my man! B-)
20:40 stephen Kind of sorry he stopped writing those, but he had kind of explored the style.
20:40 * kvorg tries to sell stephen a TV series script for Altered Carbon.
20:41 vti i am more about britain sci-fi like Wells and Wyndham
20:41 * stephen buys it for a dollar
20:41 stephen I enjoy both. :)
20:41 vti wells is like everything!!
20:41 * kvorg wields neurachem and jumps circles around the channel.
20:42 kvorg Damn, I do not know Wyndham. How illiterate of me.
20:43 stephen He wrote Midwich Cuckoos, which is the basis for almost every "the children are evil" movie and TV episode since.
20:43 kvorg Having too many, they shuld kill some Wyndhams off: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyndham
20:44 kvorg Ach, The Day of the Triffids! My mind is falling apart I see.
20:44 vti The Day of the Triffids
20:44 vti The Day of the Triffids
20:44 vti !!!!
20:44 kvorg lol
20:44 vti must read
20:44 vti awesome thing
20:45 kvorg yeah, but my rotten mind misplaced the name of the author ... agreed there
20:45 stephen The man did have a LOT of names. John Wyndham Parkes Lucas Beynon Harris.
20:46 stephen I mean, that's not a name, that's a sentence!
20:46 und3f sri, one more question about Mojo::Client
20:47 und3f sri, in Mojolicious->listen server i am make http request with MOjo::Client->singleton->async->get( ... )->start
20:47 und3f sri, and got no problem in that envirenment
20:47 und3f sri, but in tests with mojolicious::lite server it doesn't work
20:47 und3f just got no request
20:48 und3f sri, if i delete async it works again, but i got no async requests :(
20:49 sri wrong ioloop for some reason most likely, all i know is that i have ->async in lite_app.t working
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20:58 und3f sri, i am using client outside of Mojolicious::Lite routers (Mojolicious::Lite just to pass some data for Mojo::Client)
20:58 und3f or it doesn't matter
20:58 und3f ?
20:58 sri thats very important
20:59 sri async requires an external ioloop to be running
21:00 und3f sri, so i need to start ioloop manually and stop it manually too?
21:00 sri exactly
21:00 sri http://github.com/kraih/mojo/bl​ob/master/t/mojo/client.t#L144
21:00 und3f thanks, i'll try
21:02 und3f sri, thanks, works. You slightly changed api for mojo client
21:03 sri ->start?
21:03 und3f yeah :P
21:03 sri ->process still works
21:03 sri just got deprecated
21:03 und3f ok, thanks
21:03 sri start is more in line with the rest of the api
21:05 sri i still wonder if i should just split sync and async client
21:06 sri supporting both is really hard :S
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21:24 vti what/!
21:25 vti process -> start?
21:25 sri ye
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21:26 vti hm.. i missed that
21:27 sri http://github.com/kraih/mojo/blob​/master/lib/Mojo/Client.pm#L1153
21:27 sri more pretty
21:28 vti the name is better, i agree
21:28 sri i'm still looking for ways to make Mojo::Client simpler
21:28 vti i think it is simple enough
21:28 sri but whenever i look at http clients from other languages their APIs are worse :(
21:29 sri i dunno, ->async feels like a bandaid fix
21:29 und3f sri, please check out this code http://pastebin.ca/1952157 is it correct? It suppose to print "fast" before long
21:29 und3f sri, but it doesn't
21:30 sri sleep blocks the whole process
21:30 und3f oh, right, wrong example
21:30 sri you can look at the long polling test
21:31 sri and add a timer to simulate the sleep
21:32 und3f sri, thanks
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22:21 GitHub95 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * e999768 (2 files in 2 dirs): added tests - http://bit.ly/bBft2N
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22:23 sri just noticed under '/foo'; get sub {...}; post sub {...}; just works :)
22:35 ash_ sri, what if you do 2 get sub's in a row?
22:35 ash_ does it tell you your doing it wrong? :P
22:35 sri first wins ;)
22:35 sri fifo
22:35 ash_ ah, interesting, why not the second? just wondering or last?
22:35 ash_ oh, fifo got ya
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22:50 marcus_ sri: crucially was the one who told me riak was cool
22:51 marcus_ aka sky ... http://github.com/crucially/riakfuse
22:56 sri ah
22:57 sri while i like the architecture http://www.basho.com/enterpriseds.html makes me not even try it
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