Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2010-10-03

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01:26 GitHub47 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 212a5a4 (4 files in 3 dirs): added upload progress test - http://bit.ly/cD4Izb
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10:24 mvuets Hurray \o/
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10:26 mvuets Nice idea from competitors: Dancer::Plugin::SiteMap
10:29 marcus_ mvuets: I was just reading that blog post as well :D
10:29 marcus_ as well as the catalyst plugin
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10:31 mvuets marcus_: he-he, yea (:
10:32 marcus_ it seems kind of primitive tho
10:32 marcus_ (the dancer version)
10:33 marcus_ wonder if it actually generates a useful sitemap for a complex app
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10:44 mvuets I'm sure some enhancements may be devised.
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11:31 perlrocks Twitter: "@marcusramberg I only wonder if installing Mojo ends up being bigger than LWP + all non core deps, given that it pull Mojolicious too" --pedromelo http://twitter.com/pedromelo/status/26258930470
11:48 perlrocks Twitter: "@ Pedromelo Mojo SLOC - 10.951, LWP SLOC (without any deps) # mojolicious 9.172" (pl) --marcusramberg http://twitter.com/marcusr​amberg/status/26259820003
13:04 marcus_ wow, the irclog search thing is sloow
13:08 sri hmm, the sitemap thing is very underwhelming
13:09 marcus_ perl -Mojo -e 'b("B!#$%!#$^!")->url_escape->say'
13:09 sri see "mojo routes" for a mojolicious example
13:09 marcus_ sri: that does not actually generate an xml sitemap tho. =)
13:10 sri damn!
13:11 * marcus_ wonders what STDOUT_TOP is in the output from that url_escape oneliner
13:11 sri $^
13:12 sri :)
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13:13 marcus_ so I found a bug by randomly punching my keyboard?
13:13 sri i found a bug in yout oneliner ;p
13:13 sri *your
13:14 sri perl -e 'print "$^"' same thing
13:14 marcus_ ah, yes
13:14 marcus_ silly
13:15 marcus_ I'm doing another Mojo talk for Oslo.pm on wednesday. 'Mojo as a HTTP Client'
13:15 sri neat
13:15 sri and you've proven again that one can roll his face around the keyboard and write actual working perl code
13:16 marcus_ I guess I'll submit a Mojo talk to London perl workshop as well.
13:16 sri :o
13:16 marcus_ Olga's friend has moved to London by then, so she can take her shopping
13:17 marcus_ unless someone else plans to do it ;)
13:18 sri don't think we have many friends in london ;p
13:20 marcus_ well, ben came from london to Oslo, and he uses Mojolicious
13:21 sri hmm
13:21 marcus_ but some people might be influenced by matthew's opinions.
13:21 marcus_ still, I doubt they'd reject my talk.
13:24 sri http://github.com/kraih/mojo/blob/mast​er/t/mojolicious/upload_lite_app.t#L25 # someone should turn this test into a plugin
13:24 marcus_ Submitted talks: 2
13:24 marcus_ Accepted talks: 0
13:24 marcus_ we were second.
13:25 perlrocks Twitter: "Just submitted a #Mojolicious presentation to London Perl Workshop 2010. http://conferences.yapceurope.org/lpw2010/" --marcusramberg http://twitter.com/marcusr​amberg/status/26265889153
13:25 perlrocks Twitter: "RT @marcusramberg: Just submitted a #Mojolicious presentation to London #Perl Workshop 2010. http://conferences.yapceurope.org/lpw2010/" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/26265941157
13:26 marcus_ heard any news about perl6 socket support? :/
13:27 sri nope
13:27 sri actually have not heard any perl6 news
13:28 marcus_ http://rakudo.org/announce/rakudo-star/2010.09
13:29 sri oh non blocking io
13:30 marcus_ it's on the list before they call it 1.0
13:30 sri oh
13:31 sri alnewkirk: btw. when you asked me why mojolicious has no prereqs did i mention perl6 at all?
13:32 sri i prolly was too sleepy ;p
13:32 sri a failed catalyst port a few years ago started the whole idea
13:33 marcus_ oh, that's useful for my talk
13:33 marcus_ I blamed the php developers
13:34 sri i often forget to mention it, even though it's one of the first rules in the coding guide :S
13:34 sri "Code should be written with a Perl6 port in mind."
13:35 sri when the time comes i want a painless porting process
13:38 alnewkirk sri, no, but wow, why isnt anybody else thinking that way (alnewkirk: btw. when you asked me why mojolicious has no prereqs did i mention perl6 at all?)
13:38 alnewkirk ^^goodness
13:40 jawnsy I still don't think Perl6 is gonna happen in my lifetime :P
13:40 alnewkirk Perl6, codename DukeNukem
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13:44 alnewkirk sri, very cool
13:48 alnewkirk I too am embarking on something uber cool, IMO, https://gist.github.com/b020f18bcfb780964a09
13:48 dotan sri, apropos history, where did the idea of using attributes in catalyst come from?
13:51 dotan alnewkirk: sweet.
13:51 alnewkirk dotan, thanks
13:52 alnewkirk actually that paste was a mistype
13:52 alnewkirk to only spider blogs.perl.org you have to do
13:52 alnewkirk 'a' => sub { queue $_[0]->{href} if $_[0]->{href} =~ $url }
13:53 alnewkirk but you get the idea
13:54 vti sri: do you celebrate reunification day? happy day, anyway :)
14:01 dotan alnewkirk: I went sweet for Scrappy in general rather than the specific gist.
14:09 alnewkirk oh, thanx
14:09 alnewkirk :}
14:32 sri vti: nope, in the west half of germany we don't celebrate it ;p
14:37 sri dotan: from rubys attr_accessor
14:39 sri dotan: ops
14:39 sri misread question
14:39 dotan sri: seriously? I thought that was just a macro for generating getters/setters, not a way to annotate methods with things like routes.
14:39 sri nono
14:40 sri that idea started with Maypole
14:40 sri it used sub foo : Export {}
14:41 sri that was when we discovered the attributes api
14:43 sri catalyst started with a more declarative route generator though
14:43 sri took quite a few releases until we moved back
14:45 sri think the main reason for doing it was that nobody else tried it before :)
14:45 dotan Was Attribute::Handlers around then? "perldoc attributes" is pretty obfuscated documentation
14:45 dotan :)
14:45 sri don't think any attribute module was around back then
14:49 dotan so this was about being 133t.
14:49 sri it always is :)
14:50 alnewkirk sri, can I add that bit about writing for Perl6 compatibility to my article?
14:50 sri alnewkirk: of course
14:50 alnewkirk ok, i'll update it in a bit
14:51 sri alnewkirk: btw. you still didn't give us anything to retweet ;)
14:51 alnewkirk oh, im leaving for my office, be back online in about 30min, i gotcha
14:52 sri pizzatime
14:53 vti sri: don't forget beer!
14:53 sri right!
14:54 vti my flat is empty, my fridge is empty, nothing left to drink :(
14:55 sri :(
14:55 vti only the whisky bottle :D
14:56 sri thats not nothing ;p
14:59 vti sri: do you pay taxes for donations?
15:00 sri sadly yes
15:00 vti oO
15:01 vti i hope it's no 50% :D
15:01 vti *not
15:02 sri don't think it is much, but i don't handle that stuff myself
15:07 sri could also be below some tax exempt amount
15:08 sri actually i'm not sure, could ask if you really want to know :)
15:10 vti not that important, just keeping the conversation :D
15:16 sri ;p
15:20 sri hmm, seems i need to see the facebook film
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15:27 jawnsy lol
15:27 jawnsy sri: why? it sounds absolutely awful
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16:22 sri reviews are all good as far as i can see
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17:00 marcus_ I agree, I want to see it too
17:00 marcus_ but first I want to see scott pilgrim vs the world.
17:00 marcus_ sri: http://gist.github.com/608721
17:00 marcus_ .$mode. support for JsonConfig, with tests.
17:12 marcus_ (I needed it to write tests for my mongodb app)
17:12 marcus_ btw, git rebase -i is too awesome.
17:12 vti will old configs still work?
17:13 marcus_ sure
17:13 marcus_ it will merge myapp.test.json on a per key basis with myapp.json if myapp.test.json exists
17:14 marcus_ so you can use it override just one setting, for instance.
17:14 vti nice
17:14 marcus_ to keep separate dsns for test, production development
17:23 sri really nice
17:23 sri QUOTE GOES HERE
17:24 sri lol, slacker!
17:24 marcus_ btw, do these tests really need sockets?
17:24 sri they do
17:24 marcus_ ok, good thing I didn't remove that then.
17:24 sri real daemon runs inside the process
17:25 sri i've never seen the socket test fail though
17:25 sri might be overkill
17:25 marcus_ better safe than face full of egg.
17:27 * jawnsy pies marcus_
17:27 marcus_ yumm, pie
17:32 jawnsy :)
17:32 jawnsy boo, I was just trying to update Moose's Debian package
17:33 jawnsy and the Debian mirrors seem to be temporarily crapping out
17:33 marcus_ I just heard that current Moose will make any Catalyst older than today warn.
17:33 marcus_ Yay for dependencies.
17:34 jawnsy hmm
17:34 jawnsy I guess that's technically not worthy of a Breaks:
17:34 jawnsy presumably while people are updating Moose, they will also update Catalyst
17:34 jawnsy I had just updated Catalyst earlier, as well as Plack
17:35 jawnsy Debian unstable will have Catalyst 5.80028 -- is that new enough to not get the warning?
17:35 marcus_ no, you'll need 29, but I don't think the moose that breaks catalyst is released yet either.
17:37 marcus_ 18:41  * GumbyNET5 CPAN Upload: Catalyst-Runtime-5.80029 by BOBTFISH
17:39 jawnsy feh
17:39 jawnsy gosh darnit.
17:39 jawnsy :P
17:43 jawnsy serves me r ight for not watching the ftp://pause.cpan.org/pub/PAUSE​/modules/01modules.mtime.html file like I usually do
17:44 marcus_ murphy's
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17:50 sri we need a new futurama quote
17:50 marcus_ Bender: Who are you, and why should I care?
17:52 sri Ahhh, what an awful dream. Ones and zeroes everywhere... and I thought I saw a two.
17:53 marcus_ good one
17:53 marcus_ http://www.flickr.com/photo​s/27753451@N02/4406086877/
17:53 marcus_ Fry: Don't worry, Bender: there's no such thing as two.
17:56 sri Everybody's a jerk. You, me, this jerk.
17:59 marcus_ (waving hands around) Ohohohohoh!!! Let's see how crazy I am now Nixon! The correct answer is, "Very".
17:59 marcus_ I liked that one
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19:35 janus not that i had the time, but a Mojolicious Plat_Forms 2011 team could be a nice thing
19:53 crab now i must learn how file uploads work with mojolicious
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20:14 Rhaen hep
20:14 Rhaen moin
20:15 Rhaen bbl - :) just wanted to join real fast
20:15 Rhaen cya later
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20:31 und3f crab, $self->req->upload('filename')
20:31 und3f *filename => input' name
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22:14 perlrocks Twitter: "Another Perl update on my Mac. Switched to Perlbrew & now installing Moose, DBI, DBIx::Class, & Mojolicious on Perl 5.12.2" --paulhenrich http://twitter.com/paulhenrich/status/26305557828
23:26 tempire Just saw the social network
23:26 tempire fantastic
23:26 tempire mark zuckerburg doesn't come across so bad.  make some iffy decisions, but not so bad
23:27 tempire mostly, the movie made me wonder why I'm wasting my time working for someone else.
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