Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2010-10-16

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00:07 alnewkirk marcus, Mongrel is my MongoDB monstrosity
00:08 alnewkirk i'm needing to take a break though
00:08 marcus alnewkirk: confusing. Mongrel is also a ruby database
00:08 marcus alnewkirk: I'm using rafl's MongoDB at the moment
00:09 alnewkirk marcus, Mongrel is rafl's MongoDB with data validation and constraints
00:09 marcus alnewkirk: neat
00:09 alnewkirk thankx
00:11 alnewkirk i was just introduced to Message Queues, im smitten
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08:19 sri moin
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08:44 vti moin, perl rocks again!
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09:51 chansen finally, Unicode 6 has got a U+1F42B BACTRIAN CAMEL
09:59 gabb the world is once again saved and the universe in balance
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14:14 perlrocks Twitter: "[Perl] [mojolicious] / Mojolicious:: Lite Samples - Getting Started with Perl code samples http://htn.to/9iS22C" (ja) --kshimo69 http://twitter.com/kshimo69/status/27543857143
14:40 perlrocks Twitter: "RT! Kshimo69: [perl] [mojolicious] / Mojolicious:: Lite Samples - Getting Started with Perl code samples http://htn.to/9iS22C" (ja) --perlism http://twitter.com/perlism/status/27545999326
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16:56 marcus ITZY BITZY SPIDER
17:19 stephan48 vti: did you got the patch to apply?
17:19 vti stephan48: i didn't apply your patch, but i fixed it as you wanted :)
17:19 vti i hope
17:20 stephan48 :)+
17:20 vti working on pingbacks btw
17:20 stephan48 :)
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17:40 vti stephan48: pull!
17:49 stephan48 i love git, just fucked up my local repo ;) from now on i will give you pull requests
17:51 stephan48 nice :)
17:53 marcus vti: When will bootylicious support mongodb backend? NEED WEB SCALE?
17:54 stephan48 http://blog.stejau.de/ <- connected via mod_proxy
17:54 stephan48 marcus: when you write it? :)
17:55 vti marcus: after 1m downloads :)
18:00 vti sri: if i write a test with subrequests that you have in lite_app.t for example but use absolute urls, mojo freezes for awhile and finishes a request with a strange result, is this by design?
18:06 * marcus ponders watching machete
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18:48 gabb marcus: watch RED instead
18:49 marcus gabb: watched RED yesterday
18:49 marcus it was good
18:52 rhaen hm.
18:52 rhaen I need a blog software which works
18:52 rhaen is this booty* thing usable already?
18:53 marcus vti's blog is running on it
18:53 rhaen hm. ok.
18:53 marcus sri seems to be using posterous for some reason
18:55 rhaen maybe I should checkout this booty* thing
18:55 marcus yeah, check out that booty
18:57 * gabb doesnt like file-based blog software or one that has no comment functionality
18:58 marcus gabb: I don't like comments
18:58 gabb most people probably dont even need comments, but without at least the option we're back to pushing information out with no interaction whatsoever
18:58 rhaen hm, I am indifferent about comments
18:59 gabb then you may just as well use a cms instead of a blog engine
18:59 rhaen they are totally 2.0
18:59 rhaen I mean - they are web scale.
19:00 * gabb stabs rhaen
19:00 rhaen :)
19:00 rhaen ok, so movabletype then?
19:01 rhaen oh oh oh - wait, I can't decide. Let me play sc2 for an hour
19:01 rhaen that might help!
19:02 marcus gabb: so daring fireball isn't a proper blog in your eyes?
19:03 marcus given that it doesn't allow people to publish their inane opinions on the site..
19:03 gabb oh, it is a blog, but it has no advantage over a cms :)
19:03 marcus if people have something to say about my blog posts, they can post it in their own damn blogs
19:04 chansen heh
19:04 marcus and use trackback to let me link back to them.
19:04 gabb does bootylicious have pingback/trackback support ?
19:05 marcus gabb: trackback support it coming RSN
19:05 marcus pingback even
19:05 marcus 19:19 <@vti> working on pingbacks btw
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19:05 gabb oh well than that would be probably the one feature where you can distinct it from a cms
19:06 marcus but yeah, I'm not sure the file system is the best backend
19:06 gabb i'm not dissing bootylicious, but its just not a fully functional blog engine for me
19:06 marcus gabb: what about the xml-rpc support? :)
19:06 marcus and the rss feeds?
19:06 gabb because its not really designed to be one, its designed to be a well-packaged/self-contained example app
19:07 marcus and the link posts, and the cut feature?
19:07 * vti cries in the corner
19:07 marcus gabb: if you want comments, just use one of the javascript based services out there
19:08 marcus vti: you're such a sensitive soul.
19:08 gabb lol vti - sorry, I was looking for a blog engine myself thats nicely integratable into whatever apps I got running and was a bit disheartened by booty
19:08 marcus if I were to cry every time someone slagged mojomojo I'd be all out of tears
19:08 gabb I smirk everytime I randomly stumble across a mojomojo installation :)
19:08 gabb there are remarkably many of them
19:09 marcus gabb: we've removed your artwork for political reasons
19:09 gabb sometimes thou only identifiable by the mm favicon they forget to exchange
19:09 gabb what artwork? :S
19:09 marcus people said we wouldn't be taken seriously in the enterprise with it.
19:10 gabb I don't think I ever did anything for it
19:10 marcus the voodoo guy
19:10 gabb oh lol
19:10 gabb I forgot about him
19:10 marcus he was on our 404 page until like last year
19:10 gabb haha, ye np, was gimmicky
19:11 gabb marcus: did you mentioned recently that you use couchdb?
19:11 gabb it may have been sri
19:12 marcus gabb: no, I've been trying to, but not really comfortable
19:12 marcus but I use mongodb on a json backend for a new iphone project we're doing
19:12 marcus because of the geospatial index support
19:12 gabb :>
19:12 gabb GeoCouch
19:12 marcus yeah, if it was in the main distro I'd have used geocouch
19:13 marcus I actually started in that direction, then said 'fuck it, we'll do it in mongodb'
19:13 gabb anyway, I want to use couchdb as backend and redis for sessions and wonder whether to use couchdb::client or anyevent::couch and dunno if there really are pro/cons
19:13 marcus gabb: vti has a couchdb driver, but he might not want to talk to you anymore ;)
19:13 gabb I actually forgot again why I prefer couch over mongo ... :/
19:14 gabb I spent a week comparing stuff and remember that couch came out on top for me
19:14 gabb lol marcus :D
19:14 * gabb sucks up to vti
19:14 marcus yeah, you eastern europe types should stick together :p
19:14 * gabb draws a NFSW bootylicious mascot as a make-up-gift
19:15 gabb *NSFW even
19:15 vti i am afraid my driver doesn't work with current mojolicious =/
19:15 gabb I thought vti was russian :S
19:15 vti gabb: you were right
19:15 gabb then vti is closer to you than me marcus :P
19:18 marcus vti: I thought you were ukrainian...
19:19 vti i just live there
19:20 marcus where were you born?
19:20 vti kaliningrad
19:20 vti don't tell me i am german
19:20 vti :D
19:21 gabb Herr vti ze german
19:21 marcus :D
19:21 marcus lithuanian :p
19:22 marcus my wife has relatives in Riga. We'll probably stay with her cousin for YAPC::EU next year
19:23 vti nice
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19:33 marcus FUCK
19:34 marcus I downloaded Machete dubbed to friggin' russian
19:34 gabb lol
19:34 gabb have olga translate xD
19:34 gabb didnt knew russians dub, how lame
19:34 gabb I always prefered subtext as a kid in croatia
19:35 perlrocks Twitter: "First steps with #mojolicious! http://mojolicious.org http://ff.im/s9On3" --angeloselvini http://twitter.com/angelos​elvini/status/27569412513
19:41 gabb anti-climatic
20:17 sri heh
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20:18 * sri is using redis atm
20:18 sri couchdb is not bad but they lack focus
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20:19 sri very heavy fragmentation with bigcouch, geocouch....and and and
20:22 MojoGuest189 sri: Perhaps.     Do you have any idea what I am talking about?
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20:38 MojoGuest189 MojoGuest190: Do not ask me any more questions please.
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20:41 * chansen kill MojoGuest*
20:41 MojoGuest95 chansen: Is that your final answer?
20:41 chansen ??
20:41 MojoGuest95 chansen: In the context of random, I don't understand "."
20:42 chansen what?
20:42 MojoGuest95 chansen: Didn't you understand it?
20:42 marcus MojoGuest95: are you a fucking bot?
20:42 MojoGuest95 marcus: All of them?
20:42 * marcus exterminates
20:43 MojoGuest95 marcus: Did you know that you can download your own chat robot and create your own robot personality?
20:43 MojoGuest95 was kicked by marcus: kthxbye
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20:44 chansen lol, another one
20:44 MojoGuest18 chansen: My brain uses AIML to format responses to your inputs, but I don't have one for that.
20:46 chansen AIML?
20:46 MojoGuest18 chansen:
20:46 chansen What is AIML?
20:46 MojoGuest18 chansen:
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20:52 sri lol
20:54 marcus disappared in a puff of logic smoke
20:54 * marcus is watching a really stupid comedy instead of machete. Get him to the Greek
20:54 * sri still needs to watch Red
20:55 marcus http://afewgoodlines.com/post/1329452279​/a-backbone-js-demo-app-sinatra-backend
21:16 marcus http://github.com/norbu09/Net--Dropbox is so shiny
21:16 marcus <3 dropbox
21:52 perlrocks Twitter: "Added pingbacks to #Bootylicious! #Mojolicious #perl" --vtivti http://twitter.com/vtivti/status/27578052323
21:54 vti i am afraid i am adding comments
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22:26 kvorg1 vti: perhaps you should add some info about article metainformation and the use of [cut] and formats in bootylicious pod. Currently, this information is simply not available. And perhaps and examples/articles/yyyymmdd-example.pod?
22:27 vti kvorg1: will work on this
22:27 kvorg1 sorry, tweeting prompted me to do a new pull ... :-)
22:29 kvorg1 Like this: In the article files, the first two lines contain the title and the tags: <example> You can select where the previewed part will be cut by using [cut] on a single line (configurable, see ...). None of this will be visible when the markup of your article is processed.
22:29 vti kvorg1: ye
22:29 kvorg1 with your new features, it is getting niftier by the secong, btw :-)
22:43 * kvorg1 wields shotgun:
22:43 vti oO
22:44 kvorg1 vti: Where is the rest of the bootylicious documentation?
22:44 kvorg1 :-P
22:44 vti somewhere in git's history :)
22:45 kvorg1 these modern people: all nifty features, no ropes and ladders for us pedestrians. (* U+1F42B BACTRIAN CAMEL EMOTE HERE*)
22:46 kvorg1 we need explanations to confuse us and examples to copy in the wrong places.
22:46 vti i will prepare some docs soon :)
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22:49 tempire_ Does the mojolicious line of code count include pod?
22:51 kvorg1 vti: so if i want some static pages, I just change the template? or is there something i can do with the menu?
22:52 vti kvorg1: it is configurable via config file
22:52 vti to create a static page create a directory 'pages' and put there 'my-new-page.pod', that's it
22:52 vti it will be available /pages/my-new-page
22:53 kvorg1 oh, i did actually get that, surprisingly
22:54 kvorg1 i wanted to know if i can to link to the static page from index page using config or not (in which case I have to make the link in the template)
22:55 vti "menu" : ["my-page","/pages/my-new-page"]
22:56 kvorg1 aaah, it crapped out on me because I was missing the leading /. Stupid users.
22:59 kvorg1 i even deduced the default links now ... sorry, i get really dumb in user mode, so, if i have the search in the config enabled, what did i do wrong so that I can't see it?
23:00 vti it doesn't appear automatically.. you have to add it in the config, maybe that's not the best idea, but it gives you a full control :D
23:02 kvorg1 ah, so if you were taking notes for the docs, you have to add a link to search.html ... what if i wanted a search box in the index? no help but template modification?
23:03 vti unfortunately yes, i have no idead how to make it more flexible
23:03 vti in wordpress theme there is a search box btw
23:04 kvorg1 btw, http://getbootylicious.org/search.html is a 404, ts ts
23:04 vti old version there... :)
23:05 kvorg1 so, does the search plugin work for you in the new version? here it says:
23:05 kvorg1 Can't use string ("FIRST BIT OF TEXT FROM THE FIRST ARTICLE") as an ARRAY ref while "strict refs" in use at template line 17
23:06 vti i have no idea what this means, maybe a little more info would help...
23:06 kvorg1 damn, have to go get horizontal ... will look into it and perhaps send a fix (of fix my setup, much more likely)

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