Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2010-10-23

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00:22 MojoGuest138 From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (17 hits)
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02:20 perlrocks Twitter: "Feel called by other files work just raise the waf to Na cpan I do not. I may be the best material waf study group for beginners or RT @ hid_tgc: blog updated. - Mojolicious:: Lite to try a Web framework. - Http://ow.ly/2Y0Wx" (ja) --onagatani http://twitter.com/onagatani/status/28462437516
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06:06 vti_ stephan48: that's a good idea
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08:40 omega my $location = Mojo::URL->new("" . $self->tx->res->headers->location);
08:40 omega why do I need to "" . ?
08:40 omega if I don't, the $location is an array ref?
08:41 omega but all the methods still work, they just return the same arrayref?
09:02 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious (PSGI) Starman deploy the app - Getting Started with Perl code samples http://d.hatena.ne.jp/perlco​desample/20100906/1278596435" (ja) --masawo http://twitter.com/masawo/status/28484801012
09:02 perlrocks Twitter: "RT @ masawo: Mojolicious (PSGI) Starman deploy the app - Getting Started with Perl code samples http://d.hatena.ne.jp/perlco​desample/20100906/1278596435" (ja) --AE_PerlIsm http://twitter.com/AE_PerlIsm/status/28484801792
09:05 perlrocks Twitter: "RT! Masawo: Mojolicious (PSGI) Starman deploy the app - Getting Started with Perl code samples http://d.hatena.ne.jp/perlco​desample/20100906/1278596435" (ja) --perlism http://twitter.com/perlism/status/28484901342
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12:16 sri omega: scalar context
12:47 omega yeah, I figured
12:47 omega still think it's nasty though
12:50 omega or at least unexpected
12:51 sri and actually undocumented
12:51 sri guess we could enforce scalar context for those shortcuts
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12:59 GitHub178 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * e6d9b94 (7 files in 5 dirs): fixed shortcut methods in Mojo::Headers to not be context aware - http://bit.ly/bDA6Z5
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12:59 sri omega: there ya go
12:59 omega sweet
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13:17 stephan48 vti_: can you please pull from http://github.com/stephan48/bootylicious/
13:24 sri stephan48: send a pull request via github too
13:28 stephan48 no, i wont :)
13:29 stephan48 github pull requests sucks, it gives me more than the commit i want him to pull
13:40 lee7
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15:00 sri if anyone wants to play with regex, the json parser could use a refactoring to use a recursive regex
15:00 sri it might actually not be that hard
15:02 sri maybe i should add a todo file again
15:10 marcus moo moo moomomomo
15:17 fish_ vti_: btw you are from berlin, right? wanna join my party tonight? :D
15:32 fish_ btw: mojo powered party - literally: http://github.com/discordianfish/po​werlicious/blob/master/powerlicious
15:33 sri moo
15:34 sri lol, that quote is good
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15:34 fish_ :)
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15:43 rhaen moin
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16:25 sri those are from the new season
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17:46 perlrocks Twitter: "Blog updated. - Mojolicious:: Lite to try a Web framework [2] - http://ow.ly/2Yh41" (ja) --hid_tgc http://twitter.com/hid_tgc/status/28521197760
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18:23 tempire I think the Guides should have a more prominent place on mojolicio.us
18:24 tempire Something that screams to new visitors: "start here, then go here, then here, and then you'll be an expert"
18:29 sri agreed
18:30 sri actually the whole api reference should be up there
18:32 sri been thinking about turning the whole site into a cool looking pod viewer :)
18:34 tempire Might be neat, especially if it allowed user-submitted notations, like mysql docs have
18:34 tempire actually, I need that for my own project
18:43 tempire Pod::POM::Web is really ugly
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19:44 sri tempire: our built in pod renderer is not too bad
19:44 sri especially now that we can combine it with Mojo::DOM
19:46 sri combining it with some search module and you got everything needed already
19:46 sri actually Pod::Simple has search already i think
19:49 perlrocks Twitter: "@ Bazyaffka no-no-no. I'm here about the other # mojo say about the one that # perl" (ru) --_sattellite http://twitter.com/_sattellite/status/28529448013
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19:52 sri xantus: whats up at sencha, all node.js people leaving?
20:35 xantus sri: where did you get that from?
20:36 sri twitter
20:36 sri the connect guys are going to palm
20:37 xantus tim left
20:37 xantus who else?
20:38 sri tj or so?
20:38 xantus http://twitter.com/creationix
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20:39 mvuets Hallo.
20:39 * sri waves
20:39 sri someone said two people left, not sure who the second was
20:41 mvuets Cannot understand why the second route does not match. http://paste.debian.net/97848/ Please assist.
20:41 mvuets Returns 404.
20:42 sri there can only be one endpoint
20:42 sri cb runs after the router
20:42 mvuets Ah!
20:43 mvuets What is a fallback?
20:43 sri ?
20:43 sri you would need a condition to make it work the way you want
20:43 mvuets Um... what it tries to do if bridge fails?
20:44 sri there is no fallback
20:44 sri if it fails it fails
20:44 xantus he's saying YOU do thefallback
20:44 sri ^^^
20:45 sri bridges are on the action layer, so they should render themself if they fail
20:45 xantus time to start hacking on node.js and go work for palm lol :P
20:46 sri ->route(...)via(cb => sub {...})->to(...) might be fun
20:46 sri *+->
20:46 xantus I don't follow the node.js hype
20:46 sri palm surely has deep pockets now
20:47 sri but i don't see hp succeed
20:47 xantus Yeah, Palm's future is hazy
20:47 sri for hp it's a good deal no matter what with the patents
20:48 mvuets sri: now i got it. Thanks (:
20:48 xantus if Fiorina was at HP she'd see a way to run Palm into the ground faster
20:48 xantus heheh
20:48 sri heh
20:48 xantus that woman is poison
20:50 sri not sure what to think of joyent yet
20:51 mvuets Could you suggest a neat way to route to different actions depending on some predicate?
20:51 xantus 30k hp employees were let go while she was ceo
20:51 sri mvuets: that would be an internal redirect, we don't do those
20:51 sri mvuets: what you want is a condition
20:51 sri possibly a callback condition
20:51 mvuets Seems so.
20:52 sri it could work just like you thought the bridge cb worked
20:52 mvuets ->over()?
20:52 sri right
20:52 sri dunno why i wrote via before :S
20:53 mvuets Ah, i see now (:
20:53 sri there is no such condition yet, but i think a patch would be accepted
20:55 sri those CEOs that maximize profits at all costs annoy the hell out of me
20:55 xantus me too
20:57 xantus now she's a politician, go figure (republican of course)
20:59 sri it's funny how your liberal politicians match our conservatives
21:01 sri we have nothing like your republicans here
21:04 sri our social market economy system starts to fail too though :(
21:07 sri i think we need a geek state with a meritocracy :D
21:12 * tempire looks at elasticsearch for the backend of a pod searching app
21:18 sri aside from being written in java elasticsearch is quite good
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21:22 sri wonder how good riak search is
21:22 sri they now have fulltext indexing built in
21:32 mvuets sri: does $r->over('controller#predicate')->... look fun?
21:32 sri fun? it looks wrong
21:35 mvuets Let's assume i have not a trivial condition, so i'd prefer move it aside startup sub.
21:35 mvuets I do: use Mod; ... $r->over(cb => \&Mod::Cond);
21:36 mvuets Want some nice shortcut for that.
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21:38 sri $r->over(cb => 'controller#predicate')
21:38 sri something like that would be possible
21:39 mvuets Good.
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21:43 tempire What's riak written in?
21:43 sri erlang
21:44 sri it's a key/value store with auto scaling
21:44 sri and http rest api
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21:44 tempire It's internet scale.  So you can use it for more than web sites.
21:44 sri WEB SCALE!
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22:05 tempire where are the characters used for codenames coming from?
22:05 tempire Don't know much about non-latin encodings.
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22:34 sri tempire: unicode
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23:00 GitHub146 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 6cf7079 (1 files in 1 dirs): prettify ioloop ids - http://bit.ly/dlYfrH
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23:00 sri ok, that should allow an async resolver :)
23:07 xantus woot!!
23:13 mvuets sri: take a look http://paste.debian.net/97879/
23:19 xantus the mojo dav server works :)
23:22 mvuets See you
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23:55 xantus ok, I have nautilus mounting it fine
23:56 xantus and cloud9ide :)
23:56 xantus it passes most of the litmus tests, but I haven't got around to doing proplock yet
23:57 xantus lock/unlock I mean

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