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From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (105 hits) |
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MojoGuest180 |
test |
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marty |
test test :) |
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MojoGuest180 |
this thing is amazing! |
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marty |
Yep. Are you using the websockets demo? |
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MojoGuest180 |
yeah.. just tested it on the iphone but it didnt work? |
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marty |
Ahhh, never tried that. |
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C1 |
are you the developer? |
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marty |
Nope, just a lowley user. :) the developer is Sabastian (sri) |
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marty |
But ya, Mojo is pretty amazing. Lots of good stuff going on in Mojo land. This channel is usually pretty busy most people are in Europe, so prolly asleep. |
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C1 |
what happens in this chat room? |
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C1 |
as in topics? |
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marty |
bug squashing, best practices discussions. Basically everyone trying to figure out all the fun stuff they can do with Mojo and the best way to do it. |
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C1 |
nice! |
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marty |
Ya, pretty active group overall. Nice folks too. |
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C1 |
you know i would like to implement this with live stream with HTML5 |
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C1 |
live streaming video that is.. |
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marty |
I would imagine that could be done. (never done it though) |
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C1 |
have you heard of any custom made Mojo clients? |
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marty |
I think so. I can't remember names but I think I remember some discussions on that subject and some work being done. |
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C1 |
so what do you do? |
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marty |
I'm working on a ecommerce web framework for Mojo |
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C1 |
Interesting.. how would you apply it? |
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marty |
It's just a framework for web stores with a default configuration. Kinda like a scaled down Magento thing. |
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C1 |
i am not sure what you are talking about? |
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C1 |
any examples? |
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marty |
It's a framework for building web stores. No examples yet, still alpha. |
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Twitter: "Mojolicious-Plugin-BasicAuth 0.032 by Glen Hinkle - http://frepan.64p.org/~tempire[…]-BasicAuth-0.032/" --cpan_new http://twitter.com/cpan_new/st[…]15259843380125696 |
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tempire |
kk0: ok, you're straight. Will take a bit to be processed by cpan. In the meantime, https://github.com/tempire/moj[…]Auth-0.032.tar.gz |
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trololos in remembrance of vti |
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Twitter: "Mojolicious - Web framework for Perl http://www.findbestopensource.[…]oduct/mojolicious # FOSS" (no) --bestopensource http://twitter.com/bestopensou[…]15273509697626113 |
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marty: Mojolicious ecommerce framework sounds exciting. What are you using for the backend_ |
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Twitter: "Today is a day with your loved ones: collectd Mojolicious #, # # and NetBSD" (de) --rabenfeder http://twitter.com/rabenfeder/[…]15308002575781888 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "All glory to the hypnotoad! #mojolicious" --rabenfeder http://twitter.com/rabenfeder/[…]15308237175787520 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Plans for life: spend at least one hour work with #mojolicious a day." --rabenfeder http://twitter.com/rabenfeder/[…]15310631594889217 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "I should put some love in the #mojolicious wiki today!" --rabenfeder http://twitter.com/rabenfeder/[…]15310755310080000 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "#mojo is cool for rapid prototyping, accessing a ldap server from #Perl, however, pulls tons of dependencies into your toolchain..." --rabenfeder http://twitter.com/rabenfeder/[…]15310845143678976 |
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marcus |
tempire: is vti dead? |
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Christian |
morning |
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sri |
marcus: hope not |
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marcus |
sri: 'in remembrance of' sounded a bit omnious |
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* marcus |
just bought javascript the good parts and mongodb: the definitive guide |
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marcus |
preparing for 2011 :p |
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moritz |
marcus: the js book is also on my wishlist |
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marcus |
oreilly had a buy one, get one ebook offer |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "This is the second part of the new #mojolicious welcome page. :) http://twitpic.com/3gdbqs/full #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/15321267582275584 |
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yko |
sri++ |
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yko |
Mojolicious becames a teacher, ye? |
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sri |
in soviet russia mojolicious teaches you! |
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mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * f01fdea (2 files in 2 dirs): new code name - http://bit.ly/h0fviO |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "We are now officially ahead of schedule for #mojolicious 1.0 in a few days. :) http://bit.ly/elwmzU #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/15334619054350337 |
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yko |
Yahooo! |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT: @kraih: We are now officially ahead of schedule for #mojolicious 1.0 in a few days. :) http://bit.ly/elwmzU #perl" --sharifulin http://twitter.com/sharifulin/[…]15335234044170240 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @sharifulin: RT: @kraih: We are now officially ahead of schedule for #mojolicious 1.0 in a few days. :) http://bit.ly/elwmzU #perl" --rdtft http://twitter.com/rdtft/status/15335852146163712 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "#mojolicious 1.0 officially scheduled! Soon m-y- -p-r-e-c-i-o-u-s, soon…" --ykorshak http://twitter.com/ykorshak/st[…]15337576059633664 |
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sri |
get testing! :) |
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sri |
oh, i can remove deprecated stuff again :) |
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Twitter: "RT @sharifulin: RT: @kraih: We are now officially ahead of schedule for #mojolicious 1.0 in a few days. :) http://bit.ly/elwmzU #perl" --mshershnev http://twitter.com/mshershnev/[…]15346208193126400 |
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GitHub117 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 1b97444 (14 files in 7 dirs): removed a lot of deprecated stuff for next release - http://bit.ly/hi2fQ7 |
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crab |
TEST_ONLINE shows some new failures (apart from the 'right url' problem with google.de/.co.in) |
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crab |
t/mojo/client_online.t (Wstat: 1280 Tests: 101 Failed: 5) |
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crab |
Failed tests: 58, 64, 72, 74, 77 |
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sri |
doesn't matter |
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crab |
ok. just wanted to let you know. |
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sri |
it's just your location/computer/network connection |
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i didn't realise there was so much to scroll down in the new 404 page |
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sri |
wonder if i should rather encourage using helpers instead of app->defaults |
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yko |
ha! |
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tasted begin/new blocks |
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yko |
really cool stuff. |
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crab |
begin/new? |
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yko |
begin/end |
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sri |
:) |
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yko |
it allows to build so pretty helpers, like <%= admin begin %> big admin interface <% end %> |
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yko |
and hide/show chunks of page to user |
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yko |
just like that: https://gist.github.com/743265 |
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yko |
i like the idea to have few boolean/block helpers that describe user/page status or something like that |
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sri |
interesting idea |
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yko |
it allows us to really improve app syntax |
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szasenko |
yko++ |
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Twitter: "RT @kraih: We are now officially ahead of schedule for #mojolicious 1.0 in a few days. :) http://bit.ly/elwmzU #perl" --chernomyrdin http://twitter.com/chernomyrdi[…]15354570335068160 |
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yko, nice technic |
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yko |
:) thanks |
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szasenko |
yko, i've used admin staff in next way <% if (is_admin) { %> ... <% } %> |
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szasenko |
yko, but now i know better way :P |
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szasenko |
"Perfect way" |
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yko |
hm. i did "% if (admin) {\n some html \n% }" before |
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rhaen |
sri! |
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rhaen |
the new images for the 404 and the launch page are incredible! |
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sri |
:) |
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rhaen |
really, I love them |
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rhaen |
they are soooo cool! |
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rhaen |
wow! |
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rhaen |
sri for president! |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "New #mojolicious begin/end syntax allows us to create nice block helpers to show/hide parts of page from user: http://bit.ly/g6GWuc" --ykorshak http://twitter.com/ykorshak/st[…]15356483537469440 |
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sri |
\o/ |
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mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * e2651b2 (1 files in 1 dirs): improved growing guide - http://bit.ly/f15h1v |
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sri |
i somehow really don't like "defaults" |
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crab |
don't take away my defaults! |
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sri |
defaults is bad mmmmmkay? |
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crab |
looks like the only time i use defaults is when i do $self->defaults('config') |
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crab |
why is it bad? what should i use instead? |
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sri |
umm |
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__PACKAGE__->attr('config'); sub startup { $self->config($config) } |
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sri |
thats a perfect example |
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sri |
crab: you are not supposed to do that |
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sri |
$self->defaults('config') is sooooo wrong |
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sri |
you're supposed to do my $config = $self->plugin(...); |
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yko |
sri: why? because it's available from stash? |
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sri |
or $self->stash('config') |
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sri |
yko: exactly |
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crab |
oh |
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crab |
i'm sure i cargo-culted that code from somewhere |
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sri |
hmm, i might actually remove it right now if it is misused that badly :S |
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yko |
:) |
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yko |
that's bad :( |
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yko |
i like to have dafault layout |
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sri |
hmm |
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crab |
what? i can have a default layout? where do i sign up? :-) |
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yko |
crab, you can |
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crab |
$self->defaults(layout => "blah")? |
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yko |
startup { $self->defaults(layout => 'default') } |
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sri |
thats a good use case :S |
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yko |
s/^/sub / |
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sri |
guess we'll keep it experimental for now |
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sri |
and see |
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crab |
i think i must have done it because i read the source of JsonConfig.pm and saw that it puts the new $config into $self->defaults($stash_key => ...) |
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yko |
actually i do something like that: http://bit.ly/eJwhwn |
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yko |
auch... it really does. |
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yko |
sri ;) |
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sri |
damn you for bringing up a valid use case :S |
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giggles |
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crab |
i wonder what other horrible fauxs pas i'm committing in my app |
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sri |
well, it wasn't *that* horrible, i exaggregated a bit |
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crab |
:) |
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GitHub195 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 8db0409 (4 files in 4 dirs): deprecated handler and helper attributes in Mojolicious::Renderer - http://bit.ly/fFLRg7 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih We are now officially ahead of schedule for #mojolicious 1.0 in a few days. :) http://bit.ly/elwmzU #perl" --xomaa http://twitter.com/xomaa/status/15367826470608896 |
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Christian |
is there a list about form tags like this: <%= submit_button 'Submit'> |
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crab |
Christian: Mojolicious/Plugin/TagHelpers.pm |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "The amelia #perl logo makes a cameo in the third part of the new #mojolicious welcome page. :) http://twitpic.com/3gegpk/full" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/15369317113667584 |
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Christian |
crab, nice one it is important for me |
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Christian |
thx |
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yko |
how tu run specific helper from outside of template? haveing controller and app |
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yko |
looks like $self->renderer->helper->{helper_name}->() |
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sri |
hell no |
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sri |
$self->helper_name |
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sri |
the growing guide shows it now |
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sri |
$self being controller or app |
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yko |
wow cool! |
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sri |
if it is app then a dummy controller will be passed though |
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yko |
really cool, thanks |
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sri |
looks like helpers need more recipes |
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sri |
something in the lite tutorial i guess |
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yko |
i think with the time helpers will need separate Guides/*pod file :) |
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sri |
hmm, maybe a session like section in the growing guide |
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yko |
that helpers autoload trick is really nice |
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sri |
i thought you were around when we added it Oo |
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marcus |
btw, does the helpers work in the TT renderer? |
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sri |
i guess so |
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sri |
you can always do [% c.helper_name %] |
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marcus |
mm |
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marcus |
good point |
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sri |
blocks of course not |
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yko |
sri, i'm not watching mojolicious always. shame on me |
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sri |
shame on you! |
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marcus |
agree |
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sri |
TT feels really clunky once you tasted tag helpers |
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sri |
especially with the indented line style they can have this haml feel |
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sri |
i could totally see someone make a complete tag library for html now |
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crab |
i wonder how to answer "how much bandwidth will 500 concurrent users need?" |
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sri |
you can only test that |
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sri |
track one user and multiply it |
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crab |
if i know how much data is sent during a typical user session, how do i convert that to "bandwidth"? do i assume that 500 concurrent users means 500 concurrent requests? that seems rather unlikely. |
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sri |
i would assume 500 concurrent requests |
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sri |
always assume worst case |
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yko |
// and one day it became truth |
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sri |
"I described Riak to coworkers thusly: "NoSQL done by Akamai engineers, whose idea of a failure condition involves nuclear attack."" |
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sri |
lol |
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yko |
:) |
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crab |
so 500 concurrent requests to transfer 50KB each, assuming <2s response time, means some 16MB/s. that's... does that sound even vaguely reasonable? |
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crab |
i guess i'll write a script to login/do stuff/logout and run 500 of them with small random delays between steps |
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sri |
https://github.com/agentzh/redis2-nginx-module # redis rest api :) |
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crab |
sri: you mentioned liking to deploy mojo so that static files are served from the cache, right? how? |
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sri |
google for caching reverse proxy |
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crab |
which one do you use? |
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sri |
varnish and nginx are popular |
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sri |
i've not set them up myself yet |
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crab |
ah |
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sri |
thats an admin job ;p |
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crab |
i assume mojo already takes care of all the necessary if-modified-since/expires/etag stuff for me |
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crab |
heh |
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sri |
Last-Modified and If-Modified-Since |
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sri |
you can add more with hooks |
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jdixon |
sri: http://is.gd/iQcKV |
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crab |
is there an easy way to say "everything under /public expires next year?" |
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sri |
they all do stuff like that |
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jdixon |
ok, I'll erase it |
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sri |
jdixon: ? |
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jdixon |
I thought you were talking to me |
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crab |
jdixon: i think he meant all reverse proxies set expires |
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sri |
jdixon: not looked yet |
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jdixon |
oh ok |
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crab |
though i was actually asking about sending Expires: from mojo, not from the cache |
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sri |
depends on the proxy i guess |
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sri |
admin stuff ;p |
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crab |
(at the moment it's behind apache, and i'm setting expires: by content type, on images and css/javascript) |
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crab |
sri: no, this isn't about the proxy. you said "you can add more with hooks", right? got an example of adding an Expires: header? or where should i look to find out how? |
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sri |
after_static_dispatch and after_dispatch hooks |
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sri |
don't think there are examples yet |
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sri |
but it's similar to the rewrite hook in the cookbook |
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sri |
they all work the same, just at different times |
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sri |
jdixon: glad you like it :) |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Taking a little time off: http://is.gd/iQcKV #vacation #mojolicious" --obfuscurity http://twitter.com/obfuscurity[…]15386902857261056 |
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crab |
so: app->hook(after_static_dispatch => sub { shift->tx->res->headers(Expires => "send mail to sri to ask when") })? |
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crab |
neat. let me try it. |
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rhaen |
reverse proxy. *ugh* |
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rhaen |
*UGH* |
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rhaen |
<-- Admin |
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sri |
do your job! |
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* sri |
cracks the whip |
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rhaen |
sri: apache is a fine alternative, too |
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sri |
apache is dead |
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rhaen |
sri: the system of choice seems to be varnish, tho |
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rhaen |
sri: no. |
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crab |
rhaen: got any advice about setting it up as a caching reverse proxy then? |
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sri |
apache is too easy to kill |
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rhaen |
sri: it works like a charme, no reason to call it dead. |
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sri |
one word, slowloris |
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omegatron is now known as sza |
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rhaen |
crab - you mean an apache thing? |
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crab |
yes |
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sri |
you can easily starve apache with slow http requests |
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rhaen |
sure - first question: what do you try to accomplish with a reverse proxy? |
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rhaen |
crab: load sharing between multiple hosts or to improve caching? |
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sri |
nginx seems to be the choice for load sharing and varnish for caching |
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crab |
note: it's actually shift->res->headers->header(Foo => 42) |
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rhaen |
sri: huh! ngninx seems to be very nice, correct - but where will that end in a few years? |
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sri |
rhaen: what do you mean? |
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rhaen |
sri: apache is being maintained well - will nginx be the next lighttpd? |
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crab |
rhaen: improve caching. basically so that my mojo server doesn't keep getting hit with requests for static files |
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sri |
doubt that |
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crab |
is lighttpd unmaintained now? |
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sri |
nginx has huge userbase now |
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sri |
lighttpd is dead |
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moritz |
as dead as perl? :-) |
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rhaen |
sri: lighttpd solved every problem - however, yep, it's dead by now and all those fancy 2.0 guys left it for nginx |
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sri |
long standing bugs made it unpopular |
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rhaen |
moritz: even more dead :) |
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sri |
moritz: thats a different kind of dead :) |
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rhaen |
crab, let me grab a config |
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rhaen |
oh, sorry - forget it. Choose nginx |
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rhaen |
I use as different setup here. |
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rhaen |
I use an apache frontend server which balances the requests to two mojo http daemons |
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rhaen |
so basically I use the apache as a caching proxy and for serving static elements |
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rhaen |
crab: is that what you are trying to accomplish? even one mojo http is fine |
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crab |
yes |
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sri |
he wants to cache static files |
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rhaen |
ok. |
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rhaen |
so, enable the mod_proxy module |
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crab |
heh, my $r->route('/favicon.ico')->to(cb => sub { shift->render_not_found }); is no longer effective, and my app has a little white cloud as favicon :-) |
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sri |
right, built in static file |
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rhaen |
LoadModule proxy_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_proxy.so |
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crab |
rhaen: i already use ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse |
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sri |
you can overload it with another static file |
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rhaen |
crab: so everything is fine! |
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rhaen |
you can exclude URL from the proxypass method by using |
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alphatron is now known as sko |
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rhaen |
ProxyPass /favicon.ico ! |
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crab |
rhaen: but does it cache static content? |
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rhaen |
but this has to be put in the config BEFORE the proxy pass for the mojo app |
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crab |
oh, so if i give it a documentroot and say ProxyPass /static !, it won't ask mojo about those files? neat |
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rhaen |
this way the apache will serve the static favicon (in my example) or the /static in your example |
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crab |
good deal. |
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rhaen |
crab: it's that easy! |
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crab |
i hear nginx has more predictable memory use in these kinds of scenarios. someday i'll investigate migrating to it. but for the moment, making things work decently under apache is good |
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rhaen |
crab: nginx as it's advantages but apache is not dead. If you have the time, compare the two servers and decide which one suits your needs |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "And the final part of the new welcome page shows what #mojolicious is all about. ;) http://twitpic.com/3gf6ai/full #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/15392237856755712 |
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rhaen |
crab: in order to get the most of the caching part you can just use "CacheEnable mem /static" - after enabling mod_cache and you can improve the performance even more |
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rhaen |
crab: dead simple |
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rhaen |
sri: come one - admin job, hm? But easy! This can even be done by a developer! |
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crab |
rhaen: is that like the old mod_mmap_static? |
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* crab |
finds the documentation |
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crab |
thanks |
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sri |
rhaen: are you asking me to steal your job? :) |
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sri |
usually admins appreciate it if i don't mess with their stuff |
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rhaen |
sri: true! |
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rhaen |
sri: btw, I need one |
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moritz |
rhaen: are you willing to move? |
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rhaen |
moritz: no. 3 kids want to have me somewhere around Munich |
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moritz |
rhaen: quite understandable |
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rhaen |
I really would like to ...but...kids... |
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* sri |
doesn't know that many perl companies around munich |
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crab |
i used to work for a company that was founded in munich, but i only went to munich a couple of times |
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sri |
i think amazon was looking for someone in munich |
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rhaen |
ah! |
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rhaen |
I am something like an admin - not a so-sri-called-them-developer |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "That's good! RT: @ kraih: And the final part of the new welcome page shows what # mojolicious is all about. ;) Http://bit.ly/i913jh # perl" (ru) --sharifulin http://twitter.com/sharifulin/[…]15400682030895104 |
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sko |
Cool |
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tempire |
marcus: vti is dead!? |
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tempire |
oh dear. |
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tempire |
love live vti! |
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tempire |
*long |
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sri |
he's not dead |
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sri |
https://github.com/vti/boogie-woogie # just a little crazy |
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sri |
hmm, wonder why nobody has written a fun little pod viewer with mojolicious yet |
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sri |
would be kinda fun to have one bundled |
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moritz |
too easy? |
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sri |
is it that easy |
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sri |
? |
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sri |
we do have a pod renderer, but i don't know about file discovery |
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moritz |
<%== `pod2html($path)` %> |
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moritz |
perldoc -l should give you that |
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moritz |
oh wait, that won't work for perldoc -f uc |
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moritz |
that still gives you the correct filename with -l, but then pod2html will convert the whole file, not just the section |
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sri |
it would be a nice example for the generated apps |
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sri |
/perldoc?Mojolicious::Lite possibly with autoredirect to search.cpan for /perldoc?Moose |
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sri |
it depends on perl 5.10 though |
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sri |
older versions don't have Pod::Simple |
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sri |
making pod look really pretty would be a fun challenge |
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sri |
perl -MPod::Simple::Search -E'say Pod::Simple::Search->new->find(shift)' Mojolicious |
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sri |
ok, that was easy |
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sri |
it even works with perl -Ilib |
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sri |
hmm |
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sri |
tempting |
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Christian |
cu all |
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fish__ |
is it safe to use $upload->filename (from req->upload) as a path component? or might it contain .. and such stuff? |
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sri |
it might |
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sri |
very unsafe |
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sri |
it's the same as a query parameter |
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fish__ |
sri: already thought something like that.. |
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* sri |
will make pod look pretty now |
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sri |
plugin 'pod_renderer'; will register an action /perldoc |
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marcus |
never trust the user! |
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marty |
marcus: I'm thinking about using Postgress with RoseDB as the backend. But still reseaerching. |
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marty |
I know that nosql is the in-thang, but I'm new to it. Not sure if Riak or something similar world work |
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moritz |
nosql has high buzzword compatiblity |
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marcus |
but low transaction-security |
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marcus |
which is kind of important for ecommerce |
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marcus |
at least mongodb for instance isn't guaranteed to have committed your data to disk |
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moritz |
I also tend to rely on certain structures. Not having the backend enforcing these structures seems like a bad idea |
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fish__ |
https://github.com/discordianf[…]ob/master/dropbox <- another tiny mojo app ;) |
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sri |
fish__: put it into the wiki :) |
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moritz |
but then I'm old-fashioned |
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marcus |
The three operations that this chapter focused on (inserts, removes, and updates) seem instantaneous because none of them waits for a database response. They are not asyn- chronous; they can be thought of as “fire-and-forget” functions: the client sends the documents to the server and immediately continues. The client never receives an “OK, got that” or a “not OK, could you send that again?” response. |
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marty |
I think my ultimate goal would be combination of sql and nosql. I'll use nosql for things like favorites list and recent view products etc... |
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sri |
fish__: you should indent the if/else in templates |
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* marcus |
is reading the mongodb book atm, can you tell? |
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marcus |
actually, there's a safe version |
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marty |
My current app is vanilla MySql. But I'd like to implement an ORM (sounds fun) :) |
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marcus |
ugh |
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marcus |
please don't make another orm |
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marcus |
I am starting to hate them. |
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moritz |
does it at least send an SIGABRT if something failed? :-) |
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* sri |
wonders why mongodb doesn't have a rest api |
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marcus |
sri: it has great perl drivers tho |
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marty |
No, not write a new one. Use an existing ORM. :) |
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marcus |
rafl++ for those |
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sri |
marcus: blocking though |
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marcus |
sri: yepp. true |
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* moritz |
kinda likes DBIx::Class. It sure has progressed a lot in the last few months |
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fish__ |
sri: well, i thought its mixed perl and html, so i ident html and indent perl - independently from each other. i think every possible indent style on that is ugly btw ;) |
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marcus |
sri: I'd love to see an async version without moose. |
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sri |
there is an anyevent binding, but it looks very hackish |
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marcus |
but rafl's bindings are very well done, and easy to use. |
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sri |
they are the official bindings, so i would expect that |
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marcus |
$c->stash->db->collection->search() |
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marcus |
{db} |
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sri |
marcus: make the db connection a helper :) |
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sri |
$c->monogodb->collection->search() |
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marcus |
sri: I guess I should. Right now I use defaults to set it up |
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fish__ |
<ul>\n\t<li>foo</li>\n\tif {\n\t\t<li>bar</li>... would suck even more (because the output html is not indend right |
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sri |
marcus: i've changed the growing guide to use a helper too |
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sri |
fish__: http://twitpic.com/3famlf/full # i like this style |
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sri |
the result doesn;t have to be indented |
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sri |
browsers don't care |
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sri |
i on the other hand benefit a lot from pleasant templates |
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fish__ |
sri: i care when looking a the the html output ;) |
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sri |
htmltidy? |
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marcus |
I usually look at how the dom renders it rather than the html source =) |
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sri |
^^^ |
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fish__ |
but you don't intend perl code as it where a html tag. the % for is on the same deep as <table> is |
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sri |
thats just a quirk of me |
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sri |
i like the look of it |
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marcus |
you so quirky! |
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marcus |
five dollah! |
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* sri |
doesn't get the reference :( |
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marcus |
http://www.urbandictionary.com[…]!%20Five%20Dolla! |
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sri |
lol |
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sri |
hmm, is it bad if generated apps depend on perl 5.10 already? |
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marcus |
I think it's great |
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marcus |
but the enterprise will hate you :) |
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marcus |
I think some of my clients are still on debian systems running 5.8 |
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sri |
well, it will be like this |
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sri |
# This depends on Perl 5.10 |
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sri |
plugin 'pod_renderer'; |
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marcus |
I guess that's ok |
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sri |
the welcome template would be able to link to locally rendered pretty pod |
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moritz |
what you can do is require Pod::Simple in META.yml |
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moritz |
then users of older perls can still install that from CPAN |
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sri |
we will soon move to 5.10 anyway |
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sri |
i highly doubt anyone would still develop on 5.8 |
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marcus |
unless they deployed to 5.8... |
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sri |
then they would switch intentionally |
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marcus |
iusethis is actually still running on 5.8.8 :-/ |
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sri |
shame on you! |
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* moritz |
has recently decided never to deploy to a system perl again, if he has the choice |
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sri |
yea, they are always broken |
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moritz |
that's not it |
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moritz |
I've been quite happy with debian's perl |
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moritz |
but then you try to upgrade a core module, and hell breaks loose |
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sri |
debian seems to be one of the few that are ok |
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sri |
but i got tons of ipv6 problem reports for it |
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sri |
redhat is the worst |
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marcus |
Had to change a shitty diaper :-/ |
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daviddelikat |
;P |
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daviddelikat |
:P |
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daviddelikat |
been out of that business for 7 years |
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marcus |
daviddelikat: lucky |
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marcus |
I know a little girl who needs to start potty training soon. |
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stephan48 |
fish__: nice :) |
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josh |
is there a way to hook into the exception handler? id like to do something like $c->on_exception(sub { if ($c->req->is_xhr) { $c->render_text( status => 500, text => $@ ) } else { $c->render_exception( $@ ) } }) |
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josh |
so my ajaxes can just display an alert() |
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marcus |
alert('you fail'); |
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josh |
lol yeah apparently |
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sri |
josh: overload render_exception |
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josh |
ah good call |
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josh |
:* |
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marcus |
then write a plugin |
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marcus |
ajax_exception |
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marcus |
] |
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marcus |
:) |
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sri |
my perldoc plugin already works, too easy... |
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rolls his eyes at his lousy third world internet |
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marcus |
where in the world is josh leder |
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josh |
costa rica |
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josh |
the wife would be mad if i didnt say, its not really 'third world' here... but it feels that way a lot of times |
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marcus |
more life 4th? |
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marcus |
at least the climate is a lot better than here :) |
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josh |
haha yeah today is actually beautiful. summer just started here, we're finally out of rainy season and into the sunshine :D |
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josh |
and compared to its neighbors, costa rica is decidedly not 'undeveloped' .. but compared to the developed world of north america and europe, costa rica is decidedly 'developing' |
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josh |
where is 'here' for you? |
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sri |
his neighbor is santa |
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marty |
Hey lives in a Department store? |
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sri |
:D |
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josh |
haha |
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josh |
whats the path for the embedded jquery? |
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sko_ |
/js/jquery.js |
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josh |
thanks! |
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sri |
there's a recipe in the cookbook |
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sri |
using google cdn if possible |
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josh |
ohh yeah i did see that, thats right |
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tempire_ |
am I the only one who doesn't like debian? their init scripts are so inconsistent. |
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tempire_ |
from a sysadmin perspective, I can't imagine going with anything other than redhat/centos |
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* moritz |
doesn't have to fiddle with init scripts often |
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marcus |
josh: Oslo,Norway |
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josh |
ooh that does sound cold ;) |
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marcus |
RIP delicious? |
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marcus |
that's what happens when you rewrite in PHP :D |
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Twitter: "Lets make the #mojolicious documentation look pretty, a pod browser will soon be built in. :) http://twitpic.com/3gj5g1/full #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/15513646771732480 |
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yko |
sri: will the /perldoc route be removable? |
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sri |
it will be activated by loading a plugin |
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yko |
oh! great, thanks |
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* yko |
doesn't like non-removable builtins... |
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* sri |
neither |
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Twitter: "RT @kraih: Lets make the #mojolicious documentation look pretty, a pod browser will soon be built in. :) http://twitpic.com/3gj5g1/full ..." --otaviof http://twitter.com/otaviof/sta[…]15516382686871552 |
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Twitter: "RT @kraih: Lets make the #mojolicious documentation look pretty, a pod browser will soon be built in. http://twitpic.com/3gj5g1/full #perl" --obfuscurity http://twitter.com/obfuscurity[…]15516904839974912 |
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DaTa |
damn it, that looks good! |
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marcus |
so pretty, you won't believe it is perl. |
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sri |
language makeover with sri |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious - So pretty you won't believe it's Perl http://twitpic.com/3gj5g1/full" --marcusramberg http://twitter.com/marcusrambe[…]15520134827343872 |
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DaTa |
how is the syntaxhighlighting done? |
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marcus |
small chinese children |
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marty |
LOL!!!! |
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DaTa |
:-P |
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tempire_ |
pod browser: nice |
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tempire_ |
all hail the twilight theme! |
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sri |
DaTa: prettify.js with a custom theme |
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MojoGuest185 |
From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (106 hits) |
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sri |
which is in fact based on twilight |
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sri |
the theme, not the movie |
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josh |
i dunno, that theme is way sexier than a vampire |
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marcus |
http://www.mongodb.org/display[…]/Trees+in+MongoDB storing trees in mongodb is just as problematic as with SQL |
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marcus |
guess I'll be basing mojomojo2 on riak then. |
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sri |
web scale! |
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marcus |
but riak is web scale too! |
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sri |
"I described Riak to coworkers thusly: "NoSQL done by Akamai engineers, whose idea of a failure condition involves nuclear attack."" |
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marcus |
you have coworkers? :o |
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marcus |
I thought you were a lone wolf and cub :) |
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* sri |
only has minions |
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marcus |
that's how I roll |
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marcus |
minions and customers |
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marcus |
and arne |
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marcus |
$client is #1 free app in the norwegian app store again today |
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marcus |
ooh, airfoil 4 |
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marcus |
ooh, no free upgrade. Fuckers |
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moritz |
uhm. |
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moritz |
as pretty (or not) as the new 404 page might be, I'd not like to see it for routes I registered |
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moritz |
I just installed the current mojolicious from github, and my get '/' => { ... } doesn'T seem to work anymore |
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sri |
nothing changed |
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sri |
you prolly just didn't render anything |
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moritz |
I didn't change my index method either |
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marty |
marcus: I just found you on cpan, you are one prolific programmer my friend. Impressive! |
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moritz |
oh wtf? if I call a helper from a template, and something's wrong, I get a 404? |
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marcus |
marty: I blame sri. |
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marcus |
if he hadn't made Catalyst, I would have been a lot less prolific |
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marty |
Ahhh Ya, I see a lot of Catalyst stuff. Well, loooooks like sri did it again. :) Now, get to it!!! |
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marcus |
marty: I just released my first mojolicious plugin. :p |
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marcus |
I do have plans for one more. I want to write a bridge between mojolicious and LWP |
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marcus |
to make it easier to use stuff that expects LWP http classes with mojolicious |
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moritz |
btw having many static files loaded from the 404 template is a bad idea |
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moritz |
it obscures the log |
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moritz |
I have a full 80x25 xterm with logs from the static files, and the actual 404 scrolled out of the window |
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marcus |
I'm thinking successful static requests shouldn't be logged by default. |
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marty |
Yes, I saw your proxy plugin. I'm sure if I new how to use it, I would. |
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moritz |
ah, I narrowed down the bug |
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marcus |
marty: if you don't need it, you don't need it :) |
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moritz |
in the helper I did a partial inline |
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moritz |
s/inline/rendering/ |
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moritz |
and it didn't find the template |
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moritz |
so I got a 404 for the request for which the template included the helper |
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* sri |
removes log messages for static files |
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und3f |
\o/ |
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und3f |
no more floood |
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marcus |
sri: will it still log 404s? |
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sri |
ye |
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marcus |
good show |
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GitHub6 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 5f2f0ae (8 files in 5 dirs): added POD browser to Mojolicious::Plugin::PodRenderer - http://bit.ly/eeF4Tb |
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sri |
all in one |
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marcus |
writing something to import your delicious booksmarks in mojo |
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marcus |
might be a good pr stunt right now :) |
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& # zzz |
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GitHub45 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 33317a6 (1 files in 1 dirs): changed default module - http://bit.ly/ff2SGi |
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sri |
still need to fiddle a bit with the css, but it's mostly usable |
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sri |
perl -Mojo -E'plugin "pod_renderer"; app->start' daemon |
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sri |
thats all you need :) |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Added a small but pretty POD browser to #mojolicious. :) http://bit.ly/hvF0nj #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/15540512823971840 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "All you need is a oneliner. ;) "perl -Mojo -E'plugin pod_renderer => {prefix => "/"}; app->start' daemon" #perl #mojolicious" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/15541096738193408 |
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marcus |
sri: Would you accept a Mojo::Date patch to allow strftime output? |
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sri |
nope |
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marcus |
k |
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sri |
i almost did once, but Time::Piece is a core module |
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marcus |
good point |
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marcus |
I should be using Time::Piece for this |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @marcusramberg: Mojolicious - So pretty you won't believe it's Perl http://twitpic.com/3gj5g1/full" --chunzi http://twitter.com/chunzi/stat[…]15542097989861376 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "It's a general purpose POD browser btw. http://twitpic.com/3gk44r/full #perl #mojolicious" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/15544262057791488 |
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sri |
marcus: that screenshot is for you :) |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: Added a small but pretty POD browser to #mojolicious. :) http://bit.ly/hvF0nj #perl" --tempiretech http://twitter.com/tempiretech[…]15545664825991169 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "@kraih do I sense a "cpanlicious" coming up?:D RT: It's a general purpose POD browser btw. http://twitpic.com/3gk44r/full #perl #mojolicious" --garu_rj http://twitter.com/garu_rj/sta[…]15546218105016320 |
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marcus |
sri: when hypnotoad runs in the foreground, it would be nicer if it defaulted to development mode |
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tempire_ |
funky characters : http://twitpic.com/3gk7cr in chrome on ubuntu |
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marcus |
sri: so that we can easily use it for stuff that requires prefork during development |
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sri |
tempire: yea, comes from the pod module, feel free to fix :) |
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sri |
marcus: hypnotoad really sucks for development |
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marcus |
sri: I am trying to do a request to localhost from my app now, and that really sucks with daemon :) |
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sri |
what *needs* prefork during development? |
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sri |
umm, why? |
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marcus |
because it can't serve another request while it's serving my request? |
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marcus |
can it? |
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sri |
you can |
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sri |
just go async |
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goes wild |
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marcus |
Unhandled event error: Couldn't connect. at /Users/marcus/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.10.1/lib/site_perl/5.10.1/Mojo/IOLoop.pm line 1066. |
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sri |
all tests work that way |
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sri |
client and server in same process |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: It's a general purpose POD browser btw. http://twitpic.com/3gk44r/full #perl #mojolicious" --tempiretech http://twitter.com/tempiretech[…]15547624102825984 |
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marcus |
humm |
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marcus |
but I can't do render from the callback, sri? |
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sri |
of course you can |
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sri |
there's a test for that too :) |
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marcus |
sri: http://pastebin.com/JCHCPFUr |
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sri |
umm |
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marcus |
Fri Dec 17 00:27:05 2010 debug Mojo::Server:57 [9891]: Waiting for delayed response, forgot to render or resume? |
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sri |
relative url, seriously? |
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sri |
->to_abs is your friend |
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sri |
relative in that case is undefined behavior |
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marcus |
sri: didn't change anything |
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sri |
? |
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marcus |
$self->url_for('/delicious-20101216.htm')->to_abs |
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sri |
don't use a relative url |
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marcus |
still waiting for render |
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marcus |
doh, missing call to ->start |
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sri |
lol |
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sri |
was about to say it |
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sri |
MOJO_CLIENT_DEBUG=1 not saying anything was suspicious |
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marcus |
async is hard :) |
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sri |
indeed |
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sri |
sadly it is well worth it |
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marcus |
it still warns about delayed response tho |
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marcus |
even tho the delay is just reading the html file |
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sri |
intentional |
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sri |
because you are doing stuff normal people don't |
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marcus |
I usually do |
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marcus |
=) |
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marcus |
but now I am going to bed like I threatened to do 1 hour ago |
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marcus |
at least now it renders, even if Mojo::DOM returns 0 objects |
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sri |
weakling |
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marcus |
ok, changing from 'dt a' to 'a' works |
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marcus |
I now render delicious bookmarks |
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sri |
:) |
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marcus |
sri: you don't have a baby girl who's waking up in 6 hours. don't tell me I am weak :) |
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sri |
you're going to push them out of business |
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sri |
heh |
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marcus |
well, I think they are managing that on their own |
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marcus |
seeing as they just fired the whole delicious team |
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sri |
yea, daring fireball just wrote about it |
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marcus |
I just think there will be a lot of refugees who want to host their bookmarks on their own server |
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sri |
not unlikely |
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