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Twitter: "RT! Kuusou_kyokusen: perlism Mojolicious I wanted to pick up the bot as well. Mojo's weird because I take." (ja) --perlism http://twitter.com/perlism/sta[…]16296670316724224 |
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I \N{BLACK HEART SUIT} PodRenderer |
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From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (112 hits) |
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Twitter: "Mojolicious / Mojo complete understanding. Summarize later ...." (ja) --kuusou_kyokusen http://twitter.com/kuusou_kyok[…]16310424056102913 |
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Twitter: "When running with FastCGI Mojolicious in 割Ri込Menai environment variable. Maybe so dense Mojolicious this environment depends on many things." (ja) --kuusou_kyokusen http://twitter.com/kuusou_kyok[…]16326081850114048 |
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weestrom |
ok, I'm having trouble creating a class with base Mojo::Base, not sure where I'm effing up |
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weestrom |
I'm trying to create a Users class with base mojo::base, and in my app do $self->{Users} = Users->new; |
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weestrom |
which seems to work, until it gets called in a controller with a $c->app->users (I created a method to return $self->{Users} |
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weestrom |
this has worked for all the other classes I have pulled in (not classes I've created) |
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weestrom |
I get "error Mojolicious::Controller:413 [29437]: Can't call method "shift" on an undefined value" inside the users method that's trying to do the $self->shift the then return $self->{Users} |
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weestrom |
any pointers? |
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weestrom |
the initialization is inside the startup method |
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weestrom |
sorry it's doing $self = shift; |
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weestrom |
oh, just answered my OWN question |
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weestrom |
it WAS doing $self->shift; which is OF COURSE wrong |
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weestrom |
<facepalm /> |
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moin |
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sri |
yea, it's funny how often just talking to yourself in an irc channel solves problems |
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:) |
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Twitter: "Mojolicious or rather write a brief summary of the flow behavior and https: / / sites.google.com/site/515memo/mojolicious-no-kyodou" (ja) --kuusou_kyokusen http://twitter.com/kuusou_kyok[…]16409944995659776 |
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Twitter: "RT! Kuusou_kyokusen: Mojolicious or rather write a brief summary of the flow behavior and https: / / sites.google.com/site/515memo/mojolicious-no-kyodou" (ja) --perlism http://twitter.com/perlism/sta[…]16411173842845696 |
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Twitter: "RT @ kuusou_kyokusen: Mojolicious or rather write a brief summary of the flow behavior and https: / / sites.google.com/site/515memo/mojolicious-no-kyodou" (ja) --yunh http://twitter.com/yunh/status/16416516685692928 |
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Twitter: "Wrote another. https: / / sites.google.com/site/515memo/mojolicious-wo-cgi-de" (ja) --kuusou_kyokusen http://twitter.com/kuusou_kyok[…]16416621803339776 |
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Twitter: "RT !kuusou_kyokusen: もう一つ書いた。https://sites.google.com/site/[…]licious-wo-cgi-de" --perlism http://twitter.com/perlism/sta[…]16417464023781377 |
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marcus |
The natives are restless. |
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crab |
why? |
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moritz |
because a sack of rice has fallen over! |
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zipkid |
Goodmorning |
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yko |
mrnng |
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zipkid |
Are there any examples about for making something more complex with Mojo(licious) than the existing ones? |
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yko |
more complex? |
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yko |
have you seen mojolicious irc client via websockets? |
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yko |
or a twitter-like application |
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zipkid |
no |
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yko |
or maybe you have seen bootilicious? |
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zipkid |
ok, let me re-phrase... |
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zipkid |
Are there examples of complete apps... I need more than the code examples in the doc.. |
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zipkid |
? |
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zipkid |
better? :-) |
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moritz |
by definition there are not more complex examples than exist |
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zipkid |
moritz: by 'examples' i also mean full projects on github and such... |
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yko |
http://onionstand.blogspot.com[…]twitter-like.html => https://github.com/garu/tweetylicious |
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yko |
https://github.com/vti/bootylicious |
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sri |
it's all in the wiki |
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sri |
the documentation refers to the wiki multiple times |
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zipkid |
"Tweetylicious - a Twitter-like microblogging app in just one file!" that 'in one file' is exactly what i'm NOT looking for .. :-) |
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sri |
why? |
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zipkid |
Because what i need to make will NOT fit in one file... |
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sri |
that tells me you did not read the documentation :( |
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sri |
the differences between lite and normal apps are minimal |
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sri |
thats the whole point of having both |
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yko |
its example application. you an use or use not it's as example, but it can show you many tricks and ways to do something |
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sri |
you learn more about lite, you in turn learn more about normal apps |
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yko |
zipkid... ok |
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yko |
http://check-host.net/ and http://proxyhttp.net/ |
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yko |
it's a live examples of mojolicious-based appliactions |
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yko |
but i don't think authors will share the code with you :p |
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yko |
zipkid : or you may like http://oss.oetiker.ch/remocular/ and look at the code at https://github.com/oetiker/remOcular/ |
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yko |
is that enough 'complex' for you? :) |
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sri |
especially the growing guide is a mist read |
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sri |
*must |
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sri |
there is basically no "lite *or* normal" decision |
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sri |
apps grow |
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yko |
shame on me. damn, i should read that guide today before i go sleep! |
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zipkid |
sri: the app i want to migrate has about 30000 lines of perl code and 8000 lines of html... |
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sri |
baby steps |
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sri |
you don't port a huge pile of code at once |
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zipkid |
even if i reduce to 1/3 i don't feel like managing 10000 lines files... |
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sri |
or you are bound to end up with a huge mess |
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zipkid |
sri: i dont want to. |
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sri |
learn the frameworks first |
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zipkid |
but i want to choose the best 'format' NOW |
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zipkid |
sri: i am.... |
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sri |
there is no "best" |
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yko |
well, i can not agree that any app should start from lite |
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sri |
mojolicious is multiple shades of gray, there is no black of white |
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sri |
*or |
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yko |
but i understand why sri want all to start learning from lite_apps |
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yko |
i started to learn from non-lite apps ignoring lite. and now look at me: i'm always wrong at this channel... |
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yko |
zipkid: do you like to go that way? :D |
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sri |
if you start learning with a normal (full) app it will be painful and you won't get as much help |
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zipkid |
yko: ok for learning... but i don't see why i should starte my project with Lite if i am SURE i need to convert away from that... |
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yko |
sri tries to tell you that you should at least dive a lot into framework before start building you big-cool app |
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zipkid |
yko: sri ok.... i will... |
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yko |
if you start hacking without understanding framework architecture you can make many mistakes in core of your app |
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sri |
we've seen it so many times before now |
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sri |
people start with normal apps and run against walls |
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yko |
that will make a greatest hadache for you in tfuture and then you will complain that mojolicious is a bad framework |
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sri |
while it would have been a pleasant trip starting with lite |
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yko |
before you go with our main code, try to find best way to implement functional of your app on lite mockups |
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moritz |
is there any guide on growing an app? |
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yko |
that should really safe your time. start hacking being blind is not the best way. |
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yko |
mortis: go github! :) M9s/Guides/Growing.pod |
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zipkid |
What does that M9s stand for? |
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yko |
M-ojoliciou-s :) |
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wonders if yko will ever learn how to either use the tab key, or spell names |
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zipkid |
And there is me searching for 'MM9s' on github... |
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moritz |
thanks anyway |
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yko |
just like I18n for internationalization |
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zipkid |
ok |
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yko |
moritz: i believe never... sorry, it's my nature |
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yko |
but you can safely call me jko or tko or whatever you want, i wont offend :) |
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sri |
zipkid: once you grok lite you'll see that you can learn just as well from lite apps, because the code is 99% equal |
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sri |
after that point it won't matter what format example apps have |
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is just the impatient type ... |
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yko |
...and most tests written using lite... and also writing and showing short lite examples or test is better way than sending tar.gz of full app |
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yko |
there's an example: https://gist.github.com/743265 i can show the code to other developers and it's quite understandable |
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yko |
same in full app will require 4-5 files. it's a way to provide help, examples, to speak :) |
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yko |
I would say that we speak with ::Lite, slangish mumble with ojo and writing our apps as articles with Mojolicious :) |
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trains to press tab key |
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crab |
what is this about pressing the tab key? |
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zipkid |
yko: that github example gives errors about } in the templates..... |
| 12:47 |
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yko |
maybe, i'm noth an author of that examples, any of one actually |
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zipkid |
anyway... |
| 12:47 |
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yko |
but fill free to send bug reports/issues to authors |
| 12:48 |
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yko |
oh, wait! |
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yko |
aqarrghhhhhh! |
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yko |
you mean that gist |
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zipkid |
yes :-) |
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is crying |
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yko |
than you should bug me, ye |
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yko |
zipkid, fixed. you see what may happen if you don't learn from lite? :) |
| 12:55 |
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zipkid |
lol |
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yko |
btw, thanks for report |
| 12:56 |
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zipkid |
np :-) |
| 12:56 |
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yko |
oh, for those who are using vim and mojo.vim syntax highlightning - github version now support new indented perl code |
| 12:57 |
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sri |
about time! |
| 12:58 |
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yko |
I have to write tests for that syntax :) |
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marcus |
Shit |
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marcus |
My mojolicious slides are 70mb. Wonder if slideshare will handle it. |
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sri |
Oo |
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sri |
every slide a hand drawn original? |
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marcus |
Nah, but includes 2 minutes of video and an opening soundtrack. |
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marcus |
Being converted, according to slideshare. |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Slides from my presentation "Mojolicious - A new hope" held at LPW 2010 - http://slidesha.re/fSWMJg" --marcusramberg http://twitter.com/marcusrambe[…]16488107205459968 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @marcusramberg: Slides from my presentation "Mojolicious - A new hope" held at LPW 2010 - http://slidesha.re/fSWMJg" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/16490121704505344 |
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wonders if he should make http://mojolicio.us/perldoc work |
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marty |
*moinin |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: RT @marcusramberg: Slides from my presentation "Mojolicious - A new hope" held at LPW 2010 - http://slidesha.re/fSWMJg" --tempiretech http://twitter.com/tempiretech[…]16496141650624512 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "@ Ntone baja here I sit in with Mojolicious play nice :-)" (nl) --zipkid http://twitter.com/zipkid/stat[…]16496339433033728 |
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zipkid |
lol, sucky translation! |
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yko |
sri: i have thought about that. that would be really cool... |
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yko |
and ye, also it woul be gread if you don't remove named anchors... to be able point new adepts links like http://mojolicio.us/perldoc?Mojolicious#plugins |
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yko |
*great and other typos autofixe |
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sri |
yko: patches welcome! |
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sri |
btw. i think i'll release 1.0 on the 26th |
| 14:31 |
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yko |
hm. i thought you removed anchors at https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]dRenderer.pm#L130 because you just don't like it |
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sri |
yko: nope, those settings just reliably produce sane html |
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yko |
i'm not sure i understand what do you mean unders 'sane'. No <a> inside of <h1> ? |
| 14:33 |
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yko |
ill try prepare patch and see if you like it |
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yko |
Just ignore me :) |
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sri |
;p |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "#slideshare Mojolicious - A new hope: My presentation of the Mojolicious framework for London Perl Workshop 2010. http://slidesha.re/fbfpDQ" --net_fjcapeletto http://twitter.com/net_fjcapel[…]16507976374288385 |
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marty |
I found an incorrect example in the rendering guide... |
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marty |
<%= script '/script.js' %> I think it should be <%= javascript '/script.js' %> |
| 15:18 |
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marty |
Also the example just below that one has the same issue |
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marty |
The example is correct in the tagHelpers guide |
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kvorg |
fcuk, the faboulous new (for me, I was MIA for a month) exception page is actually counterproductive at first |
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kvorg |
I have been postponing the fixing of the bug so that I can enjoy it longer :-P |
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sri |
lol |
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sri |
marty: thanks, fixing |
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marty |
:p |
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kvorg |
also, I now need to update all my css so that the client is never faced with the exception page looking better than the page they are paying for ... bad, bad sri |
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sri |
lucky you, the page only shows in development mode ;) |
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* kvorg |
gets his hands on sri and rounds off some corners. |
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mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * e811569 (1 files in 1 dirs): fixed typo - http://bit.ly/gA1Zex |
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kvorg |
yeah, good point, will be carefull about that :-P |
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kvorg |
the whole feeling of finish and polish in this time is just ama-zing! |
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kvorg |
and the hypnotoad (ALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD) rools so smoothly ... |
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sri |
try the new welcome page too (and perldoc browser) |
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kvorg |
ok, enough of this delayed worhipness, it must have some negative effects on your ego B-) |
| 15:26 |
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kvorg |
the welocome page was completely different from what i expected from the discussion, and I liked it a lot |
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sri |
\o/ |
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kvorg |
i did not get to the perldoc browser yet ... all your fault (well, exception page's) |
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sri |
"plugin 'pod_renderer'" and go to "/perldoc" |
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sri |
newly generated apps have that plugin line now |
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kvorg |
xxx-nifty!!! |
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kvorg |
have too look into it, i could use it since an app i am working on actually needs built-in docs ... |
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kvorg |
on ego boosting: if we all go "oh sri, u are so big, so absolutely huge, that we are simply stunned', does that distract you from working or do you just pipe it to pointless feature request buckets and contine as usual? |
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sri |
motivates me a lot |
| 15:31 |
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zipkid |
oh sri, u are so big, so absolutely huge, that we are simply stunned |
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kvorg |
hehe, the pod alone viewer should be enough motivation to bundle a Mojolicious with perl ... |
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sri |
:D |
| 15:31 |
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kvorg |
oh sri, u are so big, so absolutely huge, that we are simply stunned |
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* sri |
blushes |
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kvorg |
actually, this is even funnier when the subject is an actual person ... or at least an AI/Robot/EvilAlienFromOuterSpace |
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* kvorg |
revises first impression from the MeaninOfLife scene. |
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zipkid |
Way back, i was absolutely stunned by the complexity of Catalyst, now by the simplicity of Mojolicious (true) |
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sri |
"Robots don't have any emotions, and sometimes that makes me very sad." |
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* kvorg |
nods violently in agreement with zipkid. |
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sri |
catalyst got too popular too fast |
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* zipkid |
actually gave up on Catalyst because it could not be installed via an automated system.... |
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* zipkid |
uses puppet. |
| 15:36 |
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zipkid |
i'm confident installing Mojolicious with puppet will be much easier |
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kvorg |
hmm, damn, now i _have_ to fix my bug and make another error in a template to see the template compilation feature ... |
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sri |
maybe we should add "mojo generate faulty_app" that can trigger all exception types out of the box :) |
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kvorg |
lol, perhaps, and it would get used a lot in presentations |
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i am currently loosing my time trying to produce different exceptions in templates, see how that would help me? :-P |
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kvorg |
ahh, sweet niftiness ... exception pages and the hypnotoad are the kind of things you go "remember when we did not have that? crazy times ..." |
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kvorg |
"it will look horrible in internet explorer, but thats intentional ;p" |
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kvorg |
sri++ |
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sri |
:D |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "#mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/16520232411602944 |
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crab |
i keep clicking on this "Would you like to add a route for it?" but it doesn't fix my application. mojolicious is broken!!! |
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sri |
;p |
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Twitter: "RT @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --j3nnn1 http://twitter.com/j3nnn1/stat[…]16520943543259136 |
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kvorg |
is it normal to get "Argument "1.0_001" isn't numeric in numeric lt" when doing mojo version on Perl 5.010001? |
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kvorg |
sorry, the remainder of the warinng was "at script/../lib/Mojolicious/Command/Version.pm line 39." |
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sri |
hmm |
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yko |
sri: i was talking about something like that for pod_renderer: https://github.com/yko/mojo/co[…]5866639cc5b5a5ec7 |
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kvorg |
no, seriously, i think the welcome,docs and exception pages make the whole package much more amenable to newcomers |
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kvorg |
so we should probably start hiding the IRC infor to avoid too many newbies B-) |
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yko |
lol |
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sri |
yko: you changed so much :S |
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yko |
sri, ye |
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yko |
you can just throw it out |
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yko |
i think we may start hiding sri on #mojo from newcomers :) |
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kvorg |
$sri->plugin('cloak'); |
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* sri |
goes back into his cage |
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sri |
yko: ok, which line is actually relevant? ;p |
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yko |
actually first try was very small, but then i checked the tests: helper also needs to change hrefs |
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sri |
ah ok |
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sri |
actually seems sensible |
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yko |
actually, only lines 43, 50, and 56 of test have are relevant |
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yko |
:)) |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --insurgentsoft http://twitter.com/insurgentso[…]16524090420494337 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --zipkid http://twitter.com/zipkid/stat[…]16524197371052032 |
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kvorg |
pointless feature request: perlrocks should support voting for funniest translated twitter post and keep a top-10 list. Reading through the log is just hilarious. |
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yko |
ouch... |
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sri |
perlrocks has a thing for japanese |
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yko |
sri, wait a minute |
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yko |
i forget tocommit cleanup :( |
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sri |
yko: it's ok, not gonna directly merge anyway |
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kvorg |
Yeah, it does. Current favourite: "PATH problem is solved, but something to Suspend the tea Mojolicious:: Lite it feels like there's been mad". It even elicted some responses, people asking what the PATH problems was :-P |
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kvorg |
me, i am more interested in suspending the tea in Mojolicious::Lite ... |
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yko |
uff. http://bit.ly/gZJlni that one please, if you would like at all |
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sri |
yko: i have to merge manually anyway, too many changes i'm unsure about, like "b("" . _pod_to_html(@_))" |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --brunobuss http://twitter.com/brunobuss/s[…]16525660646277120 |
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sri |
and the s/$self/$c/ renaming which doesn't fit into the naming scheme |
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yko |
sri: there was 2 or three $self that ovverrides each other. i found it very confusing |
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sri |
huh? |
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sri |
i only see one $self |
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sri |
and of course the outer one |
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sri |
all plugins use that naming scheme |
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yko |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]in/PodRenderer.pm => line 28, 53. ye, only two |
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yko |
ok, ill remember it for future |
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sri |
if i was going to change that it would have to be done consistently |
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sri |
as in all plugins and documentation |
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yko |
ok, ok. my fault |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Damn, that Mojolicious development is going too fast... Had to install the 'latest' version at least 5 times in the last 24 hrs... :-)" --zipkid http://twitter.com/zipkid/stat[…]16529659160170497 |
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* zipkid |
just crawled through Guides/Growing . It does make things clearer :-) |
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garu |
zipkid: splitting tweetylicious into more files is just a matter of moving the "Model" package to another file, typing "perl tweetylicious inflate" (to expand the templates) and then follow Guides::Growing to mode routes into sub startup and actions to their appropriate controllers |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --freekey http://twitter.com/freekey/sta[…]16534173053362176 |
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garu |
same for bootylicious or any other example you may find, I guess :) |
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garu |
speaking of which... anyone seen vti? |
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sri |
he has taken a break |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --tempiretech http://twitter.com/tempiretech[…]16535181447929856 |
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garu |
sri :( |
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garu |
but...but... I need to bitch about Text::Haml !! :P |
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sri |
yko: a little simpler |
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* zipkid |
found the most usefull part in Growing the 'helper' module :-) |
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sri |
method |
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sri |
unless you are refering to the actual plugins |
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* zipkid |
has a git clone of Mojo... how do i instal;l that? |
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sri |
normal cpan module |
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sri |
perl Makefile.PL; make test; make install |
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zipkid |
ahja... ok thx |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --pau4o http://twitter.com/pau4o/status/16538350093606912 |
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sri |
ok, that will make linking very easy |
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sri |
you tap on a header and you get the full url to it |
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yko |
hmm. sri: indeed, much simplier |
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yko |
but... have you seen /perldoc?Mojolicious output? |
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sri |
am i supposed to guess what you are refering to? |
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yko |
http://173.212.220.166:3030/perldoc?Mojolicious |
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yko |
links in ATTRIBUTES are generated wrong. i think ill write a test or so |
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sri |
it helps if say whats wrong |
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sri |
*+you |
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marcus |
Wow, slideshare sucks. |
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marcus |
It completely fucks up my keynote slides, |
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yko |
sri: http://korshak.name/pod.jpg |
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sri |
lol |
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sri |
drawing a picture is easier than a sentence? |
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yko |
for example in /perldoc?Mojolicious text inside <a> tag looks not as expected |
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yko |
sometimes yes |
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sri |
(not complaining) |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --perlninja http://twitter.com/perlninja/s[…]16542731908161536 |
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yko |
happy now |
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yko |
really looks much better |
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yko |
and intends for items are avesome |
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marcus |
Also, might mention that mode defaults to production on hypnotoad. |
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yko |
awesome :) |
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yko |
sri++ |
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sri |
yko++ |
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eagers to point somebody to http://mojolicio.us/perldoc?Mojo::DOM#attrs |
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yko |
or so... |
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sri |
soon |
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yko |
:D |
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sri |
refreshing the whole content of the site |
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zipkid |
yko: sri: http://localhost:3000/perldoc?Mojo::DOM#attrs works fine :-) |
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yko |
i'm not trying to rush you, just eagerly waiting :) |
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yko |
zipkid: ye, last 3-4 commits was related to that |
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* yko |
uses tab key! |
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zipkid |
yko: yep, i've been following :-) http://cl.ly/243F3C1W0l453u2L140T |
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zipkid |
Hmm... where did i read about how to create your App as a plugin ? |
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yko |
i'm sure somewhere at Mojolicious pod |
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yko |
like embedding apps :) |
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zipkid |
yes... but there are too many ... :-) |
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yko |
look at Routing guides |
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zipkid |
http://localhost:3000/perldoc?[…]Condition_Plugins :-) thx |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --xomaa http://twitter.com/xomaa/status/16554814410326016 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT: @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --sharifulin http://twitter.com/sharifulin/[…]16555050763558912 |
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kvorg |
garu: vti's boose has commits 1 day ago, so maybe he has only taken a break from us :-$ |
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kvorg |
hmm, perldoc pod reader makes me revisit some docs ... did Mojolicious pod evolve massivley a some dark moment when i was not paying attention? damn. |
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yko |
i think that is what Mojolicious perldoc stands for :) |
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kvorg |
sri: lol, your aggressive reloading now reloads the whole of Mojolicious |
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kvorg |
which is lucky, otherwise it would be difficult to keep up-to-date with your productivity as of late ... |
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kvorg |
_oh sri, u are so big, so absolutely huge, that we are simply stunned_ |
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sri |
are you calling me fat? |
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zipkid |
:-D |
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zipkid |
sri: Where are you in .de ? |
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sri |
north, above hamburg |
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* kvorg |
hides in yko's shadow. |
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zipkid |
You were not at Devopsdays in Hamburg by chance? |
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* kvorg |
whispers: %3A%3A is kinda nasty for :: |
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sri |
unlikely |
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zipkid |
sri: it was interesting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/z[…]2157625044047547/ http://www.devopsdays.org/2010-europe/ |
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zipkid |
and Fun! |
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sri |
oh, "were" |
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sri |
nope i wasn;t |
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sri |
*' |
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zipkid |
Dinnertime! bbl |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @xomaa: RT @kraih #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --Foxcool_ru http://twitter.com/Foxcool_ru/[…]16560333145505792 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @ kraih: # mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! # Perl" (de) --2mad4milk http://twitter.com/2mad4milk/s[…]16561413099102208 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @ marcusramberg: Slides from my presentation "Mojolicious - A New Hope" held at LPW 2010 - http://slidesha.re/fSWMJg" (de) --2mad4milk http://twitter.com/2mad4milk/s[…]16561790997504000 |
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yko |
marcus: lol!! |
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yko |
You included Romantially Mojolicious in your slides! |
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marcus |
Yko: of course. |
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weestrom |
hey all, thinking of my first refactor now that I've dipped my toes in, just curious what the opinion is on preferred style for adding attribs to my app class that has base Mojolicious |
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weestrom |
should I $self->{Attrib} or use the class constructor __PACKAGE__->attr('Attrib') from Mojo::Base? |
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sri |
accessors are rather popular |
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weestrom |
I've been $self->{Attrib}'ing in sub startup{} |
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marcus |
Ick |
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weestrom |
yeah, I noticed them when I used Base::Mojo for my Users class |
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sri |
$self->{Attrib} makes you look like a dinosaur basically :) |
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weestrom |
ahh, well, it IS my first OoP project, so I don't mink looking foolish to learn :) |
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weestrom |
*mind |
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sri |
ah |
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weestrom |
started from perltoot and the mojolicious docs |
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weestrom |
I have like the syntactic sugar from Mojo::Base |
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sri |
we don't take oop very far, should be rather easy to follow |
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weestrom |
so, I think I will refactor to that as i go |
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weestrom |
*liked rather |
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sri |
you might also want to take a look at heavier modules like Moose |
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sri |
even if you don't use them, lots of good knowledge |
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weestrom |
I've got enough Oo background of hacking around in c++ and beating my head against different syntaxes that I'm having a much easier time this go round |
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weestrom |
keep kicking myself for getting an ME degree |
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weestrom |
I work as a dev, but in the embedded matlab space |
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weestrom |
thanks for the pointer to moose, when I feel like taking a break from this project I will check it out |
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weestrom |
fighting the desire to refactor against the need to get a first pass done on every piece of the project to flesh it out |
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weestrom |
hard internal argument |
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sri |
:) |
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zipkid |
the $r->get/post/any are described as Lite routes in the Routing Guide but in the Growing Guide they are used in the finaml Mojolicious app ... ? |
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zipkid |
ok... now i read enough "and also part of the normal router." |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --dmitry_rpm http://twitter.com/dmitry_rpm/[…]16576448462594048 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "RT @kraih: #mojolicious 1.0 is scheduled for december 26! #perl" --yunh http://twitter.com/yunh/status/16582244801974272 |
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weestrom |
if I'm using __PACKAGE__->attr('name') instead of $self->{Name}, how do I do the equivalent of sub startup { $self->{Name} = Foo::Bar->new('option'); } |
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weestrom |
because sub startup { $self->name = Foo::Bar->new('option'); } didn't work |
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marcus |
$self->name(...); |
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weestrom |
ahh |
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weestrom |
what does $self->name; return? |
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weestrom |
I was expecting $self->name to return $name |
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marcus |
It returns whatever you set it to. |
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weestrom |
ok, that was my confusion, it was just different from how I was doing my methods manually |
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sri |
http://127.0.0.1.:3000/perldoc?Mojolicious/Guides/Growing#Testing |
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sri |
that now works :) |
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zipkid |
sri: Only if you omit the ',' after the 127.0.0.1 :-) |
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zipkid |
oops |
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zipkid |
s/','/'.'/ |
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sri |
:) |
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zipkid |
Darn... now i have to re-install AGAIN! :-) |
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sri |
there's a oneliner for that too |
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moritz |
panm . |
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zipkid |
piccolo:mojo root# perl Makefile.PL && make test && make install && make clean |
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moritz |
erm, cpanm . |
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zipkid |
works too :-) |
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sri |
curl -L cpanmin.us | perl - http://latest.mojolicio.us |
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zipkid |
-sh: panm: command not found |
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zipkid |
lol.. slight improvement http://localhost:3000/perldoc?[…]ding_Applications |
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sri |
hmm, your browser sucks then |
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zipkid |
sri: yes, but since i already have a local github clone.... |
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zipkid |
sri: both Safari and FF do this... |
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sri |
umm |
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sri |
it just worked in safari |
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zipkid |
it works, yes |
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zipkid |
but then click on a link in the page... |
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sri |
thats what i mean when i say works |
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zipkid |
well..... sorry... |
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sri |
same for safari |
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sri |
just works |
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sri |
umm firefox |
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zipkid |
5.0.3 & 3.6.13 |
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zipkid |
Works in Chrome |
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sri |
works in every single browser here |
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sri |
5.0.3, 3.6.13, 4beta.... |
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zipkid |
on hover it shows the links with '/' but in the address bar i get %2F |
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sri |
operating system? |
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zipkid |
X |
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zipkid |
10.6.5 |
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sri |
then your box is screwed up somehow |
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weestrom |
hey sri, marcus, and moritz, I wanted to say thanks for smart answers to dumb questions over the last day or so, I know this is a dev channel and I appreciate the pointers! |
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weestrom |
I'm really happy with where my project is, all the major pieces are functioning (and I understand why) and now its down to design optimization and fleshing out. I never thought I'd be so (relatively) far along in just two weekends |
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weestrom |
Mojo/Mojolicious rocks! |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious - Web framework for Perl http://www.findbestopensource.[…]oduct/mojolicious # FOSS" (no) --bestopensource http://twitter.com/bestopensou[…]16594886136430592 |
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weestrom |
I think I need to move my mysql over to localhost so that I can dev over the holiday break out of town. |
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weestrom |
is there someplace to donate to the project? |
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yko |
http://mojolicious.org/ has big paypal button |
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weestrom |
sweet, I expect I will be donating something out of gratitude after the 1st of the year. I definitely want to help make sure this project stays supported! |
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yko |
also a good way to support Mojolicious - to make a blog posts about it :) |
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marcus |
Or feeding sri's illegitimate children. |
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yko |
lol |
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zipkid |
I find it not very clear where plugin files should be put... |
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yko |
as far as i remember, to have less hadache you may put plugin into myapp/lib/Mojolicious/MyPlugin.pm |
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yko |
ouch: myapp/lib/Mojolicious/Plugin/MyPlugin.pm |
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yko |
sorry |
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zipkid |
ah, nice, thx |
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yko |
or you may add your app to Plugin manager's namespace and put intio myapp/lib/MyApp/Plugin/MyPlugin.pm |
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zipkid |
$plugins = $plugins->namespaces(['Mojolicious::Plugin']); <- with this..? |
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zipkid |
ok |
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zipkid |
set it to MyApp::Plugin ... |
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yko |
you are lite or mojolicious now? |
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zipkid |
Mojolicious |
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zipkid |
still reading and testing ... |
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zipkid |
I am certain Lite will not be what i need.. |
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zipkid |
But now i have to leave you, Goodnight! |
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GitHub45 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 59191d1 (3 files in 2 dirs): added pinstripe effect - http://bit.ly/i33Vm2 |
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sri |
code looks quite a bit cooler now :) |
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GitHub120 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 0013c08 (1 files in 1 dirs): fixed typo - http://bit.ly/e4PmCH |
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kvorg |
sri: yums, I like the new perldoc paths ... that was what I wanted, but was afraid to ask for |
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sri |
:) |
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kvorg |
btw, it looks like / in both 3* and 4* FF to mee |
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aaaargh, perlrocks quit, we have a vacancy! |
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