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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Easy to set up in nosniff Mojolicious. https: / / sites.google.com/site/515memo/mojolicious-no-zatta-na-memo" (ja) --kuusou_kyokusen http://twitter.com/kuusou_kyokusen/status/22847050395688960 |
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tempire |
Mojolicious: now with no sniffs! |
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sri |
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crab |
anyone done a file upload progress blah with mojo? |
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sri |
there's a test case for that afair |
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sri |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/blob/master/t/mojolicious/upload_lite_app.t#L21 |
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sri |
you'll have to figure out the details yourself though |
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crab |
seems obvious enough. but this looks like a good use for websockets. |
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sri |
the progress methods are also experimental |
| 05:14 |
crab |
in mojo? ok |
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* sri |
wonders if he should also blog minor releases |
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sri |
as long as there are changes visible to end users i guess it doesn't hurt |
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crab |
i don't think it'd hurt anyway |
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Christian |
morning |
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stephan48 |
hi Christian |
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marcus |
http://bethesignal.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/why-so-asynchronous.jpg |
| 07:56 |
zipkid |
hi |
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zipkid |
is Rose::DB::Object a good choice for use with Mojolicious? |
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crab |
zipkid: it really doesn't matter to mojo |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "You do Mojolicious! Not say anymore." (ja) --kuusou_kyokusen http://twitter.com/kuusou_kyokusen/status/22934118136283137 |
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zipkid |
crab: ok.... how do you feel about Rose::DB::xxx ? |
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sri |
anyone know when they are releasing the mac app store? |
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Zaur |
does somebody know how to pass :id to controller? |
| 09:37 |
marcus |
do the mojolicious |
| 09:40 |
* sri |
does the mojolicious |
| 09:48 |
sri |
ah, 7 hours till mac app store :) |
| 09:49 |
sri |
looks like twitter for mac will be released at the same time |
| 09:49 |
marcus |
yeah |
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marcus |
so looking forward to that |
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marcus |
kinda pissed that I didn't get the beta tho |
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crab |
Zaur: what do you mean? |
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MojoGuest615 |
From: http://www.google.ru/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=websockets+demo (1 hits) |
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sri |
think i'll release 1.01 today |
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marcus |
hachi++ |
| 10:54 |
sri |
:O |
| 10:54 |
yko |
O_O |
| 10:54 |
marcus |
:D |
| 10:54 |
yko |
woow! |
| 10:54 |
marcus |
purl: HUGS! |
| 10:54 |
purl |
DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
| 10:54 |
* sri |
hugs punytan |
| 10:54 |
sri |
ops |
| 10:55 |
* sri |
hugs purl |
| 10:55 |
* purl |
hugs sri back |
| 10:55 |
marcus |
hachi puts her into the config now |
| 10:55 |
marcus |
so she'll come back next time she dies |
| 10:55 |
sri |
purl: botsnack |
| 10:55 |
purl |
thanks sri :) |
| 10:56 |
sri |
purl: karma sri |
| 10:56 |
purl |
sri has karma of 233 |
| 10:56 |
fish__ |
wondering what vti's plans are about bootylicious. seems very promising the new structure but atm like everything is broken and quite nice features just not working yet |
| 10:57 |
sri |
purl: karma marcus |
| 10:57 |
purl |
marcus has karma of 376 |
| 10:57 |
sri |
lots of catching up to do |
| 10:57 |
marcus |
I WIN |
| 10:57 |
marcus |
purl: karma mst |
| 10:57 |
purl |
mst has karma of 1834 |
| 10:57 |
sri |
Oo |
| 10:58 |
marcus |
;) |
| 10:58 |
sri |
clearly rigged |
| 10:58 |
marcus |
fish__: fork it and fix it. |
| 10:58 |
marcus |
:) |
| 10:58 |
marcus |
sri: he's doing a lot of noob helping |
| 11:00 |
sri |
purl: sri? |
| 11:00 |
purl |
i guess sri is A PONIE!!1! and a or no more a javascript noob or evil or a spelling guerilla or the temporary channelclown or a snob now or the perl guerilla or a small mouse with a big head aiming for world domination or the evil sith or has no clue about fuzzy logic or no longer a real hacker :/ or a copycat or pimp to many children or a holy man or looks a lot like pitr or puny or doing ruby now until perl6 |
| 11:01 |
mxey |
I hadn't noticed Mojolicious was written in Ruby. |
| 11:01 |
sri |
yea, we make you believe it is perl until you're hooked |
| 11:02 |
fish__ |
but another question: is there some molicious stuff to implement a small website for self employeed person. just a few pages, maybe contact form.. looks like there is no simple and modern perl cms out there i'm aware of.. |
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sri |
fish__: thats correct |
| 11:03 |
mxey |
If you like it simple, you could create the simple pages directly as templates and only use actual code for the contact form. |
| 11:03 |
sri |
perl needs a nice little cms |
| 11:04 |
sri |
maybe even something to challenge drupal |
| 11:04 |
sri |
it's insane how big projects like drupal have gotten |
| 11:05 |
fish__ |
sri: thought about writing something based on memowe's cms plugin. but to be honest to myself i have to admin that i probably would never reach a usable state... |
| 11:05 |
sri |
way beyond any programming language community |
| 11:11 |
moritz |
somhow I think the abstraction to start would be "manage user-contributed content" |
| 11:11 |
moritz |
which could then be reused for blogs, cms, discussion fora etc. |
| 11:12 |
sri |
not sure i would start with abstraction at all |
| 11:13 |
fish__ |
https://github.com/memowe/mojolicious-plugin-content_management <- have a look at that. it quite something to build on |
| 11:13 |
sri |
i would always go the other way, app first then extract reusable parts |
| 11:16 |
fish__ |
i think i start on step futher: first webpage, than webapp, than modules ;) |
| 11:19 |
marcus |
I need something simple for nordaaker.com too |
| 11:19 |
marcus |
so get cracking! :) |
| 11:19 |
sri |
join tumblr like all the other hipster blogs ;p |
| 11:22 |
marcus |
we're not a blog |
| 11:22 |
marcus |
:) |
| 11:22 |
sri |
hmm, is there no cloud cms yet? |
| 11:23 |
fish__ |
sri: like.. myspace? :> |
| 11:23 |
sri |
lol |
| 11:26 |
marcus |
Riak 0.14 Released. |
| 11:26 |
marcus |
looks exciting. |
| 11:26 |
* sri |
is getting more and more excited about mongodb |
| 11:27 |
crab |
what? dammit, stop changing your mind in response to external events! |
| 11:27 |
marcus |
sri: do your drivers live somewhere public? |
| 11:28 |
sri |
https://mongohq.com/pricing # there's even free cloud hosting |
| 11:28 |
sri |
marcus: still working on it |
| 11:29 |
* marcus |
fills sri with helium and sends him to the clouds |
| 11:29 |
sri |
i pretty much know how to implement everything but keep getting distracted :S |
| 11:29 |
marcus |
disconnect |
| 11:29 |
purl |
i guess disconnect is broken in 0.45. It's been fixed since then. Dunno about topic events. |
| 11:29 |
punytan |
called? |
| 11:29 |
marcus |
works for me |
| 11:29 |
punytan |
ah, ops |
| 11:29 |
marcus |
punytan: you were just mistaken for purl |
| 11:30 |
crab |
drupal is insane for more reasons than its size |
| 11:31 |
marcus |
see also: php |
| 11:31 |
punytan |
marcus: thanks |
| 11:31 |
* marcus |
is writing a simple api for activeCollab |
| 11:32 |
crab |
what is it? |
| 11:32 |
purl |
it's it! |
| 11:32 |
marcus |
ithttp://www.activecollab.com/ |
| 11:32 |
marcus |
it's the bee's knees. |
| 11:32 |
sri |
purl: mojolicious? |
| 11:32 |
purl |
mojolicious is probably an example framework built on top of Mojo, your don't-depend-on-anything framework toolkit or still a young project, the catalyst community was way smaller in the same stage |
| 11:32 |
omega |
do bees even have knees? |
| 11:33 |
sri |
purl: forget mojolicious |
| 11:33 |
purl |
sri: I forgot mojolicious |
| 11:33 |
marcus |
omega: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-bees-knees.html |
| 11:33 |
sri |
purl: mojolicious is teh awesome and at http://mojolicio.us |
| 11:33 |
purl |
OK, sri. |
| 11:34 |
fish__ |
i'm probably just to stupid again: how can i access the name of the page i tried to access in the not_found handler? |
| 11:35 |
sri |
name? |
| 11:35 |
purl |
name is confusing |
| 11:35 |
sri |
^^^ |
| 11:35 |
yko |
:) |
| 11:35 |
fish__ |
ok, the url ;) |
| 11:35 |
yko |
purl++ |
| 11:35 |
crab |
fish: $self->tx->req->uri etc |
| 11:35 |
fish__ |
or better the path part of the url |
| 11:36 |
marcus |
fish__: uri is an url object |
| 11:36 |
crab |
it's actually named url. sorry. |
| 11:36 |
sri |
<%= url_for %> |
| 11:37 |
sri |
<%= $self->req->url %> is correct too though |
| 11:38 |
fish__ |
sri: url_for is empty here.. |
| 11:38 |
yko |
also you may want to get abs path like $self->req->url->to_abs->path |
| 11:38 |
yko |
fish__: url_for relative. if you at '/' it will be empty |
| 11:38 |
sri |
yko: fixed in 1.01 |
| 11:39 |
yko |
oh... sorry |
| 11:39 |
fish__ |
no, i try to access /foo and it still is empty. but maybe my mojo is to old again ;) |
| 11:39 |
sri |
i'm about to tag 1.01 btw |
| 11:39 |
fish__ |
but req->url works fine |
| 11:42 |
fish__ |
can i change somehow the status code for not_found? btw: i'm playing with the cms module and want to put a link 'create this page' on all not_found pages. but browsers like chrome don't show the status text if status code is 404.. |
| 11:43 |
fish__ |
i would use a 'catch all' route for that, but this route is already handled by the cms plugin.. |
| 11:43 |
mxey |
Stupid browsers. |
| 11:43 |
purl |
stupid browsers are having problems with redirects, imagine that :) |
| 11:44 |
sri |
fish__: just make your own 404 |
| 11:44 |
fish__ |
sri: what do you mean? i made my own template, but it still sends 404.. |
| 11:44 |
sri |
/*everything |
| 11:44 |
sri |
a route to rule them all |
| 11:45 |
fish__ |
sri: this was already did for the cms plugin: get '/(*everything)' => (content_management => 1) => 'page'; |
| 11:45 |
* sri |
doesn't follow |
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fish__ |
sri: i need this route for the cms plugin, its how it works. i have to send everything to this plugin |
| 11:47 |
fish__ |
sri: the plugin handles all routes and probablity it calls render_not_found if he doesn't find a page but itself |
| 11:48 |
sri |
nothing i can answer then |
| 11:48 |
fish__ |
sri: the question is, can i change the status code it sets when the not_found template is rendered? |
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GitHub115 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 67b49b5 (1 files in 1 dirs): release preparation - http://bit.ly/f1Zzal |
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| 11:50 |
sri |
ok tagged |
| 11:50 |
yko |
grats! :) |
| 11:51 |
yko |
sri: after_static_dispatch will be called if static file rendered? |
| 11:51 |
sri |
yko: yes |
| 11:51 |
yko |
thx |
| 11:54 |
crab |
should i be using $self->tx->req or $self->req? are they the same thing? |
| 11:55 |
sri |
as documented, they are |
| 11:55 |
crab |
ah it is |
| 11:56 |
crab |
Alias for C<$c-E<gt>tx-E<gt>req>. |
| 11:56 |
crab |
renders as: Alias for "$c-"tx->req>. |
| 12:00 |
crab |
C<<$c->tx->req>> should be ok, but it turns out as '" $c->tx->req "' with spaces. weird. |
| 12:01 |
crab |
oh, no. it works. |
| 12:02 |
perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious 1.01 by Sebastian Riedel - http://frepan.org/~kraih/Mojolicious-1.01/" --cpan_new http://twitter.com/cpan_new/status/22986385916960768 |
| 12:03 |
crab |
http://pastebin.com/qg2Vr4Gv <- trivial patch to fix |
| 12:04 |
marcus |
wow, frepan is so fucking ugly |
| 12:04 |
marcus |
what is it with perl people and design? |
| 12:06 |
marcus |
powered by Amon2 |
| 12:06 |
mxey |
I think you are generalizing. For example, Mojolicious.org looks nice. |
| 12:06 |
mxey |
But frepan is indeed ugly. |
| 12:07 |
marcus |
mxey: mojolicious is a special case :) |
| 12:08 |
sri |
mojolicious is secretly a ruby project |
| 12:09 |
mxey |
and we all know Ruby developers are vain, Mac-using, Latte Macchiato-slurping hippies. |
| 12:09 |
mxey |
;) |
| 12:10 |
sri |
just 5 hours until the mac app store opens! |
| 12:10 |
mxey |
Help! |
| 12:10 |
* sri |
goes to get a Latte Macchiato |
| 12:11 |
mxey |
I cannot stand Macbooks, but I like the coffee |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Released #mojolicious 1.01, enjoy! :) http://bit.ly/fHWVxR #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/22999572758396928 |
| 12:56 |
sri |
think i'll keep writing these little announcements |
| 12:57 |
sri |
they are not that interesting but show that a lot is happening here |
| 13:01 |
fish__ |
:seen memowe |
| 13:01 |
fish__ |
!seen memowe |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious 1.01: TLS goodness: It has been a busy week since our amazing "One Point Oh" release. The co... http://bit.ly/gpCvQt #perl" --PlanetPerl http://twitter.com/PlanetPerl/status/23003134079016960 |
| 13:17 |
sri |
purl: marcus? |
| 13:17 |
purl |
i think marcus is pretty sure lisp adoption is being hampered by being named after a speech defect. or http://picasaweb.google.com/olga.ramberg/Lisboa#5240395957801479314 |
| 13:18 |
sri |
quite sure that factoid was better back then |
| 13:18 |
marcus |
people always trash my factoid :/ |
| 13:18 |
marcus |
purl should have been git powered. |
| 13:18 |
purl |
marcus: excuse me? |
| 13:18 |
sri |
vandals! |
| 13:21 |
marcus |
http://www.a-mobler.no/a/produktvisning.aspx?k=3&u=8&uu=9&item=FN13200 |
| 13:32 |
sri |
interesting, 75% of all visitors on mojolicio.us use chrome |
| 13:32 |
yko |
and 37% of them it's me who is reading perldoc |
| 13:33 |
mxey |
marcus: The world would be much better if everything was Git powered ;-) |
| 13:33 |
sri |
your country is actually a rather small percentage |
| 13:33 |
yko |
btw, which % have preffered lang ru_ru? :) |
| 13:33 |
sri |
ru is big |
| 13:34 |
sri |
ru is right after us |
| 13:34 |
crab |
sri: because it's broken in firefox? ;-) |
| 13:34 |
* crab |
hides |
| 13:34 |
sri |
20% |
| 13:34 |
purl |
0.2 |
| 13:35 |
sri |
crab: it is not |
| 13:35 |
sri |
coverage of the world is really good, almost every country covered |
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| 13:36 |
sri |
we just need a little more advertising in some african regions |
| 13:36 |
yko |
well, there's about 42mln people in whole ukraine and ~12mln people only in moscow so nothing surprising |
| 13:37 |
marty |
is there a hook or method that fires on route request? (I'm trying to figure out a way to load user state data on each page request). |
| 13:37 |
* sri |
starts to like analyticsapp, even though it's too expensive |
| 13:38 |
sri |
marty: no hook, thats supposed to be done in app code |
| 13:38 |
sri |
with bridges and under |
| 13:39 |
marty |
Ahh ok. That makes sense. Thank you. |
| 13:39 |
sri |
hmm, someone keeps reading our documentation with a Google TV Oo |
| 13:40 |
yko |
atually that can be done via hooks. but not in clear way |
| 13:40 |
yko |
after_static_dispatch => sub { return if $_[0]->stash->{'mojo.rendered'}; CODE } |
| 13:41 |
sri |
yko is right |
| 13:41 |
yko |
\o/ |
| 13:41 |
sri |
:O |
| 13:41 |
sri |
now you need a new romantically mojolicious image |
| 13:41 |
marty |
Ahhh, yes, not clear but still usefull. Thank you yko, I've added it to my list of goodies. :) |
| 13:42 |
yko |
oh... -_- |
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sri |
looks like the mac app store is going live now :) |
| 13:56 |
yko |
how much did they pay you? :) |
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sri |
absolutely nothing, i'm a fanboi! |
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marty |
I woke up with "chitty chitty bang bang" song in my head... it's still there. I think I'm going to pass out. |
| 14:12 |
sri |
sounds like the appropriate reaction |
| 14:12 |
zipkid |
sri: apple is saving my Credit health! http://cl.ly/3r3m0W1H3d2Z0P0w3V2L :-) |
| 14:12 |
marty |
Ya, much more sanitary than pucking |
| 14:14 |
sri |
zipkid: let me guess, you tried to buy dress assistant? |
| 14:14 |
zipkid |
O, O.... where is that!? URL !!! |
| 14:14 |
sri |
right in your screenshot |
| 14:15 |
zipkid |
ah, right... Looks exactly what i need :-) |
| 14:15 |
zipkid |
actually i was trying to 'buy' the free twitter app.... |
| 14:16 |
* sri |
suggests wearing pants today |
| 14:16 |
* sri |
saves you money |
| 14:17 |
crab |
is that wht the "dressing assistant" does? |
| 14:17 |
crab |
tell you to remember to wear pants? |
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sri |
i hope so |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "When combined with xslate mojolicious layout view I wonder if I should just to be able to specify the # perl" (ja) --atom_seed_usa http://twitter.com/atom_seed_usa/status/23025345909235713 |
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sri |
hmm, really not much in the app store yet :/ |
| 15:01 |
omega |
and no way to "connect" old purchases |
| 15:02 |
Christian |
cu all |
| 15:03 |
sri |
interesting, it keeps filling up |
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| 15:05 |
sri |
hmm, the pixelmator folks promise a free 2.0 update if you buy 1.0 again |
| 15:05 |
sri |
guess more will follow |
| 15:11 |
omega |
where do you see that? |
| 15:11 |
sri |
on twitter ;p |
| 15:11 |
omega |
http://www.pixelmator.com/transition/ |
| 15:12 |
omega |
grmpf |
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* sri |
doesn't like the new twitter app :( |
| 15:18 |
sri |
ok, how come the twitter app can login with user and password? |
| 15:18 |
sri |
do they have a new secret ad-hoc auth mechanism? |
| 15:20 |
sri |
too bad it's over https :S |
| 15:21 |
sri |
could be some oauth2 ad-hoc auth mechanism |
| 15:23 |
omega |
isn't it just to get the auth token? lots of apps still do that afaik? |
| 15:26 |
sri |
but how does it get the token? |
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mxey |
I have a Mojolicious::Lite app. How would I map from paths to static files? |
| 15:33 |
mxey |
The directory structure is not the same. |
| 15:34 |
mxey |
Like, I want to map from /challenges/01recordbreaker/unsolved.png to /opt/intercensor/challenges/01recordbreaker/unsolved.png, but I do not want to serve all other files in that directory. |
| 15:35 |
sri |
mojolicious doesn't do that |
| 15:35 |
yko |
ln -s that file or write single action that would serve just a single static file |
| 15:35 |
sri |
yea, you can only link around |
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| 15:35 |
sri |
or write the file serving code yourself |
| 15:35 |
yko |
or maybe jsut think if you doing something wrong :) |
| 15:35 |
sri |
(which i don't suggest) |
| 15:36 |
sri |
yko is right again :) |
| 15:36 |
sri |
serving random files from somewhere outside your app is asking for trouble |
| 15:37 |
perlrocks |
Twitter: "Men listening to Miku and Hull, Mojolicious i read the documentation. Nope, getting sleepy now. And not in a cold bed. Kaya o2 sgi is still running?" (ja) --tisihara http://twitter.com/tisihara/status/23040391041257472 |
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mxey |
sri: Not random files :) |
| 15:37 |
mxey |
I only need to pull three images from each of these directories. |
| 15:37 |
mxey |
But I want to have each of these challenges completely contained in its respective directory. |
| 15:38 |
mxey |
sri: Writing my own action would be okay, how would I say "send this file to the user"? |
| 15:38 |
sri |
you can't |
| 15:38 |
sri |
mojolicious wants to be portable, so we only allow serving files relative to the application home |
| 15:39 |
mxey |
sri: Having the files in the application root would be possible. |
| 15:39 |
sri |
umm, why not the public directory? |
| 15:40 |
mxey |
sri: Because I want each of those challenges to have everything in its directory. |
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* sri |
doesn't follow |
| 15:40 |
mxey |
Each challenge has some Perl code, some configurations and its icons. |
| 15:40 |
mxey |
Currently there is one directory for configurations, one with code and public/ has the icons. |
| 15:41 |
mxey |
I would prefer to have one directory for each challenge where all things regarding it are stored. For example that will make it easier to use git log on a challenge and get all history. |
| 15:41 |
yko |
> Each challenge has some Perl code, some configurations and its icons. |
| 15:41 |
yko |
you may want to include some static just in your modules |
| 15:42 |
mxey |
include some static? |
| 15:42 |
yko |
i'm not sure if i udnerstand you right, but there's way to have static files in module __DATA__ section and render just from there |
| 15:43 |
mxey |
I'd prefer to store them in files seperately. |
| 15:43 |
mxey |
Also, the Perl code is just one class with metadata and logic, not web interface code. |
| 15:47 |
yko |
i'm sure i wouldn't like way you are going to do, but feel free to investigate. you're warned: hideously mutated monsters will appear on your way |
| 15:48 |
mxey |
So you strongly suggest I stick to using only the public/ directory? |
| 15:48 |
yko |
I strongly suggest to keep everything in app directory |
| 15:48 |
mxey |
Like I said, that is no problem. |
| 15:48 |
yko |
./lib, ./public, ./templates, ./anything |
| 15:49 |
mxey |
the app is currently in /opt/intercensor/webif, but I can move the mojo home to /opt/intercensor |
| 15:50 |
yko |
and then reading docs and useing render_static http://mojolicio.us/perldoc?Mojolicious/Controller#render_static |
| 15:50 |
yko |
you can render anything relative to your public dir |
| 15:51 |
mxey |
That seems to be what I need |
| 15:51 |
yko |
ok |
| 15:51 |
mxey |
I can then just render ../challenges/foobar/images/solved.png, so that's fine. |
| 15:51 |
mxey |
Thanks for your help everyone :) |
| 15:56 |
mxey |
btw, what about adding (optional) support to Mojo for using sendfile to serve static files? Or is that impossible with HTTP? |
| 15:56 |
mxey |
I recently tried App::dirserve and I think I would have benefitted from a little zero-copy |
| 15:57 |
yko |
mxey: what about use nginx to serve static? |
| 15:57 |
sri |
yko is right again :O |
| 15:57 |
yko |
something wrong with me today |
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* sri |
is scared |
| 15:57 |
mxey |
I cannot argue that. I personally do not serve large static files using Mojolicious, but I just noticed it when I used the mentioned App::dirserve. |
| 15:58 |
yko |
maybe i'm ill :) |
| 15:58 |
mxey |
Although since Gatling has hit Debian, I have no real reason to use App::dirserve or Python's SimpleHTTPServer anymore. |
| 15:58 |
sri |
the whole point of mojolicious is to generate dynamic content |
| 15:58 |
mxey |
Was just a suggestion. |
| 15:58 |
marty |
yko++ \o/ |
| 15:59 |
sri |
the static dispatcher should only do enough to serve files to a caching reverse proxy |
| 15:59 |
yko |
don't worry, i'm going to ask something stupid now :) |
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mxey |
sri: Like http://wiki.nginx.org/ReverseProxyCachingExample? ;) |
| 16:01 |
sri |
nope, with a constraint on .png/.js/.css... |
| 16:01 |
mxey |
constraint? |
| 16:01 |
purl |
hmmm... constraint is liberating. |
| 16:01 |
mxey |
I am only getting to know nginx, but so far I like what I see. |
| 16:02 |
mxey |
Lighttpd has always annoyed me with its configuration syntax. |
| 16:02 |
yko |
sri: what about special pragma mojo::codings to handle Content-Encoding headers like gzip, deflate, [maybe compress then] |
| 16:02 |
marty |
mxey: I think sri means that there is no need to have nginx cache images becuase the browser already does it. |
| 16:02 |
mxey |
The browser can only cache for a single user though. |
| 16:03 |
sri |
no i mean a more restrictive nginx configuration |
| 16:03 |
sri |
it can cache special file extensions only |
| 16:03 |
sri |
yko: gzip is evil |
| 16:03 |
mxey |
So you meant the opposite of what marty suggested. |
| 16:04 |
sri |
i really wouldn't want to worry about compression on the app layer |
| 16:04 |
yko |
sri: im looking from Mojo::Client side now and i'm don't talking about that feature in core |
| 16:05 |
yko |
just as third-party pragma to enable gzip codings support |
| 16:05 |
mxey |
So you guys generally recommend to run nginx or similar in front of Mojolicious to take care of the static stuff and caching? |
| 16:06 |
mxey |
Because I was quite content with just running Hypnotoad on its own. |
| 16:06 |
sri |
yko: do whatever you like, i hate compression because you have to cache for it |
| 16:06 |
yko |
mxey: depends. if you have 20K req/hour than you definitely need something like nginx |
| 16:06 |
yko |
sri, ok thanks for your opinion |
| 16:06 |
mxey |
yko: In this setup, I am happy if I have 20 requests/minute |
| 16:07 |
mxey |
(shameless plug: http://www.intercensor.org/) |
| 16:07 |
sri |
gzip makes my head hurt |
| 16:07 |
yko |
mxey: than you shouldn't care about that |
| 16:07 |
yko |
just a mojolicious static should be enough |
| 16:08 |
mxey |
yko: Yes, but I always like to know what else is possible and might be appropriate in a different setup. |
| 16:08 |
mxey |
I hope to use Mojolicious for projects ;) |
| 16:08 |
mxey |
*more |
| 16:09 |
mxey |
The setup already includes nginx though, but only for serving static data that some of the challenges use. |
| 16:09 |
yko |
mxey: than ye, nginx is recommended |
| 16:09 |
mxey |
OK. :) |
| 16:10 |
mxey |
If my continuing questions become annoying, just tell me. |
| 16:10 |
yko |
sri: i had a trouble with some sites that ignores Accept-Encoding of client and just send compressed content |
| 16:10 |
sri |
yko: hmm, thats not spec compliant |
| 16:11 |
yko |
after all, if you are going to pull 1000Gb, have monthly traffic limit 1000Gb and some time... then that matters :) |
| 16:11 |
sri |
you can always unzip it later though |
| 16:13 |
yko |
just asking your opinion, thank you |
| 16:13 |
yko |
Mojo::Client is too good. and very flexible |
| 16:15 |
sri |
too flexible for gzip, so many things to go wrong |
| 16:15 |
sri |
for client i actually wouldn't mind core support for gzip |
| 16:16 |
sri |
but it would require many tests for those cases |
| 16:16 |
sri |
callbacks in different stages, streming to file, keeping in memory... |
| 16:16 |
sri |
*+a |
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yko |
hm, ye. this part would be complicated. that's why i'd like it to be not in core |
| 16:20 |
yko |
users always can blame me (or somebody else), but not Mojolicious |
| 16:27 |
perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious - Web framework for Perl http://www.findbestopensource.com/product/mojolicious # opensource" (id) --bestopensource http://twitter.com/bestopensource/status/23052938427502593 |
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sri |
hmm, looks like select_field is really screwed up :S |
| 16:31 |
perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious framework on @danbenjamin's Dev Show. Need something similar in PHP? See Slim Framework at https://github.com/codeguy/Slim" --codeguy http://twitter.com/codeguy/status/23054029407911937 |
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sri |
Slim::init(); |
| 16:32 |
sri |
seriously? |
| 16:32 |
purl |
is that for real? |
| 16:32 |
* sri |
hugs purl |
| 16:32 |
* purl |
hugs sri back |
| 16:33 |
yko |
lol |
| 16:37 |
perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious-1.01 http://frepan.org/ ~ kraih/Mojolicious-1.01 /" (ja) --akiym http://twitter.com/akiym/status/23055598165688320 |
| 16:39 |
yko |
i feel that hiding retweets that was a gread idea |
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sri |
indeed |
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* yko |
imagenes thousands of retweets knocking on the roof like rain. |
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GitHub95 |
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dotan |
Wait, you removed via() from routes? |
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yko |
why do you think so? |
| 16:49 |
yko |
via documented in Routing Guide so must be ok |
| 16:49 |
dotan |
Because my routes don't match, of course. |
| 16:49 |
dotan |
Yeah, I see it's still there. |
| 16:49 |
dotan |
bah. |
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GitHub70 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 2b98959 (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed optgroup support in select_field helper - http://bit.ly/e0W1eq |
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sri |
i suspect nobody has used select_field with optgroup yet |
| 16:56 |
yko |
ye ) but i'm going to... one sweet day |
| 16:56 |
sri |
this is exactly why i keep these things experimental for so long ;p |
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GitHub82 |
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| 16:58 |
yko |
you are right and so big... :) |
| 16:58 |
sri |
-.- |
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sri |
not sure about using the hashref as a pair container |
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yko |
because of sequence? |
| 17:00 |
sri |
nope, it can only contain one pair |
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sri |
multiple optgroups would look like [{}, {}, {}] |
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sri |
[{Europe => [...]}, {Asia => [...]}] |
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dotan |
If I want to handle get and post differently on a single route ('/:script.cgi'), can I dispatch it to() 2 different callbacks via() the method? |
| 17:09 |
dotan |
Doesn't seem to work - If I create a route and direct it via(method) to(callback), I don't match. |
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sri |
you need two routes |
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sri |
or you go hybrid |
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sri |
my $s = ...->under('/:script.cgi'); $s->get(sub {...}); $s->post(sub {...}); |
| 17:12 |
sri |
i would always use hybrid routes instead of to(cb =>...) |
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dotan |
I need to use under()? route() doesn't work? |
| 17:13 |
sri |
you might want to take a closer look at the documentation to understand whats really going on |
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dotan |
sri: the hybrid example is the only place under() is mentioned in the routing guide |
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dotan |
oh wait, it's elaborated in the Lite doc |
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dotan |
Bah. Trying to use under(), get() and post() gives me deep recursion warnings and no output. I'm switching back to route()->to(cb) with an if/else on req->method. |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "perl -Mojo -e 'a("/" => {text => "Hello Mojo!"})->start' daemon" --motonarola http://twitter.com/motonarola/status/23068782733824000 |
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MojoGuest682 |
hi there |
| 17:30 |
purl |
salut, MojoGuest682. |
| 17:30 |
MojoGuest682 |
purl, bot ? :) |
| 17:30 |
purl |
MojoGuest682: sorry... |
| 17:30 |
MojoGuest682 |
i see.. |
| 17:31 |
yko |
:) |
| 17:31 |
yko |
purl is so sweet |
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* yko |
waves |
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MojoGuest682 |
/me waves too |
| 17:32 |
MojoGuest682 |
huh |
| 17:32 |
MojoGuest682 |
/me |
| 17:32 |
MojoGuest682 |
blah |
| 17:32 |
MojoGuest682 |
why old irc commands doesn't work ? :) |
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MojoGuest682 |
/help |
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MojoGuest682 |
gege |
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dotan |
sri: why does query_params->to_string return undef on an empty query string? Won't an empty string be better? |
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MojoGuest682 |
can you recommend a good example to start with mojo (websockets) ? |
| 17:35 |
MojoGuest682 |
at the moment i'm using catalyst framework, but have lot updates and wanna try to use websockets |
| 17:35 |
yko |
MojoGuest682: websockets protocol going to change, it's better to wait untill they release stable spec |
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yko |
MojoGuest682: there's really minimalistic example: http://mojolicio.us/perldoc?Mojolicious/Guides/Routing#WebSockets |
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yko |
MojoGuest682: only /nick and /join works in that websocket client :) |
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From: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=7&sqi=2&ved=0CEQQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdev.xantus.org%2F&rct=j&q=extjs%20demo&ei=MgEmTcmxFZO6sAOckOTqAQ&usg=AFQjCNGw6nZv0wO42uzUnHhWcD0vcKNULg&sig2=PINM2sheAqG6q36QarJNZQ (1 hits) |
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marty |
https://gist.github.com/768471 |
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marty |
I thought redirect_to could also set stash values. However, in the code above the stash value never gets set. |
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yko |
marty, are you sure you have route named '/' and it has stash bindings? |
| 20:04 |
yko |
oh... you mean 'define stash values' |
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yko |
no, it wont set stash values, otherwise Mojolicious apps code would became terrible |
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marty |
Ahhh. So in the example from the controller guide... $c = $c->redirect_to('named', foo => 'bar'); What is foo? |
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marty |
Doh!!! ok I get it. "named" is a named route? |
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yko |
ye. $r->route('/path/:foo')->name('named'); $self->redirect_to('named', foo => 'bar') => /path/bar |
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marty |
Ahhhh. wow. I was Totaly off on that one. Thank you for clearing that up for me, yko. I appreciate the help. |
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garu |
hmm... how do I get the base url in M:Lite? I mean whatever comes before '/'? |
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garu |
like "http://localhost" or "http://my.server.org/" |
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yko |
like it done in base_tag helper: $self->req->url->base |
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garu |
yeah, I'm familiar with req->url->base.... I was hoping for a shortcut :) |
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yko |
<% base_tag %> is a showrtcut :p |
| 21:14 |
garu |
a friend told me they want their M:Lite app to redirect_to other (non-mojo) app on their server |
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garu |
so he's asking if there's anything more elegant than $base = $self->req->url->base; redirect_to( $base->scheme . '://' . $base->host . '/foo/bar' ) |
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yko |
do i understand you right? you need just redirect to same host, same schme, just arbitrary path? |
| 21:19 |
garu |
yup |
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yko |
doesn't redirect_to('/foo/bar') helps you? |
| 21:20 |
garu |
nope, because it's somewhere not in the app's root |
| 21:20 |
garu |
redirect_to( '/foo/bar' ) points him to "http://server/mojoapp/foo/bar" |
| 21:21 |
garu |
he wants to get rid of the "/mojoapp" part |
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yko |
uhmmm. your app lives somewhere like http://server/mojoapp ? |
| 21:24 |
garu |
not my code, but I believe so, yeah |
| 21:25 |
garu |
basically he wants to be able to elegantly fetch $scheme + $host, to be able to redirect his users to other pieces of code not under Mojolicious |
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yko |
im unsure about this part at the moment |
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garu |
:( |
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yko |
garu: url_for->base is what you need |
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yko |
$self->url_for->base or as helper url_for->base. i hope you enjoy it |
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yko |
we all must anderstand that mojolicious interpret abs urls (path) as urls absolute to app root. |
| 21:38 |
yko |
which means that (sometimes) your '/' will point not to http://localhost/ but to http://localhost/yourapp/ |
| 21:39 |
garu |
yko++ |
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garu |
it appears to be working for him |
| 21:39 |
yko |
that may confuse sometimes, but that's much better than dirty hacks i've applyed to achieve similar functionality |
| 21:39 |
garu |
absolutely |
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purl |
Quite so. |
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marcus |
kinda annoying |
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marcus |
I get mails for every issue and pull request to mojo because I have a fork, it seems. |
| 21:51 |
yko |
me too, but i did not recieve any notes about that |
| 21:53 |
yko |
markus, when somebody creates pull requests in PEOPLE TO BE NOTIFIED by default three persons: kraih, you and rhaen :) |
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marcus |
oh, guess it is because we have write access to the wiki |
| 21:55 |
yko |
:) |
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marcus |
actually, seems I have commit access to kraih/mojo :o |
| 21:56 |
yko |
hehe, than you deserve that suffering :D |
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tempire_ |
marcus: I noticed you & rhaen on the mandatory notify list when I made a pull request. |
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tempire_ |
I guess that makes you important |
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