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Twitter: "mojolicious looks crazy powerful and concise." --erikhollensbe http://twitter.com/erikhollens[…]28249886147223552 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "mojolicious looks crazy powerful and concise. http://bit.ly/gEz2qJ" --erikhollensbe http://twitter.com/erikhollens[…]28250006783791105 |
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MojoGuest484 |
From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (161 hits) |
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MojoGuest484 |
/list |
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sri |
su-bzero2: fixed the balloon btw :) |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Fixed some details in the #mojolicious banner, don't think many people noticed, but i feel much better now. :) http://t.co/FsM3OSX #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/28280416792219648 |
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Twitter: "Using Perl, Mojolicious and Redis in a real world asynchronous application http://tinyurl.com/4nma58o" --ryszard99 http://twitter.com/ryszard99/s[…]28310853061181440 |
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From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (162 hits) |
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From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (163 hits) |
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Christian |
good morning |
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purl |
For you maybe. |
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yko |
mrnng |
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koban |
hi! |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Put on centos cpanminus Mojolicious:: Lite you to move the "Perl 5.10 and later regards" U - with Messejinu" (ja) --polaroidoon http://twitter.com/polaroidoon[…]28363468188942336 |
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marcus |
get '//' => sub { |
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marcus |
typo in the default page? |
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marcus |
hurgle |
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marcus |
having some trouble with the tt renderer |
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marcus |
I load $self->plugin('tt_renderer'); in startup, but I still get : http://pastebin.com/yrPHcfC2 |
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marcus |
oh doh |
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marcus |
http://pastebin.com/zFA1Y3g9 that is the actual error |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "The document is still not enough Mojolicious wish after all." (ja) --5_1_5 http://twitter.com/5_1_5/status/28409486662180864 |
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MisterHatt |
hey guys, I'm new to mojo and playing a bit with mojolicious::lite, wondering if someone could enlighten me on the helpers at all? trying to insert some javascript using <%= javascript being %> and wondering how I'd go about adding a charset argument to that most efficiently |
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MisterHatt |
I have the charset plugin loaded and I've used it in my header for the template in question, but not sure how to implement in the existing helpers |
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yko |
maybe you should write 'javascript begin' instead of 'javascript being' |
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MisterHatt |
that would be a good start yeah, whups |
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yko |
what do you mean 'a charset argument' ? |
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yko |
what you want to have in template after helpre runs? |
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MisterHatt |
well in html I'd usually write like <script type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"> |
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yko |
try <%= javascript => (charset => 'utf8') => begin %> .... |
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MisterHatt |
from what I understand of the helper though, it only places the type and source if passed |
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MisterHatt |
ah I see |
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MisterHatt |
I'll give that a go, thanks |
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yko |
all addictional params passed as attr-name => value pairs int tag helpers (mostly) |
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MisterHatt |
I get it |
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MisterHatt |
thanks for your help |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Just added myself to the http://wefollow.com twitter directory under: #rivne_ukraine #perl #gtk #qt #mojo" --ysyrota http://twitter.com/ysyrota/sta[…]28434635662819328 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Just added myself to the http://wefollow.com twitter directory under: #rivne #perl #mojo #gtk #qt" --ysyrota http://twitter.com/ysyrota/sta[…]28434917532635136 |
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sri |
marcus: should be already fixed i master |
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sri |
*+n |
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sri |
we are losing ops :o |
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yko |
somebody DoS my hoster :\ |
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sri |
DaTa++ |
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DaTa |
sri: rejoin to test autoop ;) |
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yko |
ohm? |
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purl |
ohm is Old High Martian time. i.e. the number of seconds elapsed since the moment the year 1970 began in London, minus a few leap seconds. or the unit of resistance |
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sri |
DaTa: doesn't seem to work |
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yko |
haha |
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DaTa |
sri: you are on the autoop list, not yko :) |
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sri |
yko: hold still for probing! |
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yko |
lol |
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sri |
yko: now kick me |
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sri was kicked by yko: with my pleasure |
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yko |
he has no auto-rejoin? Oo |
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DaTa |
\o/ |
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sri |
\o/ |
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yko |
:D |
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yko |
mojo++ |
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sri |
purl: karma mojo? |
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purl |
wish i knew, sri |
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sri |
purl: karma mojo |
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purl |
mojo has karma of 21 |
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sri |
mojo++ |
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sri |
purl: karma catalyst |
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purl |
catalyst has karma of 149 |
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Christian |
a nice weekend to you all |
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yko |
purl karma mojolicious |
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purl |
mojolicious has karma of 5 |
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yko |
Oo |
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sri |
we have a lot of catching up to do now that purl is back |
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* sri |
kisses purl |
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* purl |
swoons! |
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* tempire_ |
gently caresses the back of purl's neck |
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gives purl an ipad |
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marcus |
sri: What should be fixed in trunk? |
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sri |
marcus: double slash |
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marcus |
sri: yeah, it is |
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marcus |
hrm, still wondering about the missing or not readable error I get from a TT template |
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sri |
i really hope i've got the whole relative path thing right this time -.- |
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marcus |
the template is clearly not missing |
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marcus |
I fixed a syntax error in it before I started getting the missing or not readable error |
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sri |
no idea |
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marcus |
heh |
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marcus |
I blame ask |
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marcus |
http://pastebin.com/kBApm72P |
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marcus |
I think that code bit is very useless and should just be removed |
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sri |
not unlikely |
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sri |
the module is very very old though |
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marcus |
yepp |
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marcus |
but 1. that block will match if your template includes a template that does not exist |
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sri |
a lot of the improvements were actually triggered by it :) |
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marcus |
2. it will result in a 404 instead of the error screen. |
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marcus |
which is not very useful |
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sri |
agree |
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sri |
anyone seen microsoft razor? |
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sri |
the template system i tweeted |
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sri |
it's quite interesting |
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sri |
basically it's so clever syntax highlighting is pretty much impossible |
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tempire_ |
I like the @ |
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sri |
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu[…]ducing-razor.aspx |
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tempire_ |
It's almost similar to the line-beginning %, except you don't have to use it on the closing braces. |
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sri |
closing } is also neat |
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sri |
right |
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tempire_ |
I'm not sure how I feel about no prefix for closing braces. |
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sri |
i'm a little tempted to try it :) |
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sri |
but no syntax highlighting is a bummer |
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tempire_ |
With the right syntax highlighter, it's probably fine. |
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tempire_ |
Without it, I suspect it would be really annoying. |
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marcus |
wow, it will wow, I like razor |
| 16:06 |
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marcus |
wow, I type wow a lot, wow |
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tempire_ |
MS can do that 'cause they control their development environment |
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sri |
wow |
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sri |
ye, smart move by microsoft |
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marcus |
sri: planning to write an ide? |
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marcus |
:) |
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sri |
but the rest of their web stack is still garbage |
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sri |
marcus: actually... |
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sri |
no ;p |
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tempire_ |
marcus: how was the response to your 'new hope' presentation at yapc? The slides were brilliant. |
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sri |
he was unlucky |
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marcus |
tempire_: it was allright. England is a tough crowd tho :) And I was competing against tim bunce in the main room |
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tempire_ |
Ah right, I remember you saying that. |
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tempire_ |
I watched part of the video; the audio was horrible, but I assumed I would have heard more laughs |
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wonders if @ would be better than % |
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tempire_ |
I can't imagine it would be hard to make that a configurable option |
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marcus |
wow, the actual block that triggered the 404 in TT was DateTime: plugin not found) |
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sri |
it is already |
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marcus |
bad regex, no cookie, ask! |
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tempire_ |
perfect, you're already ahead of microsoft. |
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sri |
ouch, very bad regex |
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sri |
i think the biggest advantage are actually the smart inline expressions |
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sri |
@foo vs <%= foo %> |
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sri |
the longer for is not as nice though |
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sri |
@(foo + 'bar') vs <%= foo + 'bar' %> |
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sri |
*form |
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sri |
and i don't think it would work so nice for perl |
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sri |
@$foo vs <%= $foo %> |
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sri |
@$foo->{bar} vs <%= $foo->{bar} %> |
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sri |
@($foo if $bar) vs <%= $foo if $bar %> |
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sri |
there are also other alternatives |
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sri |
<%= $foo %> vs {{ $foo }} |
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yko |
sri: why do you need @$ ? why not just @ ? |
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sri |
helpers wouldn't work |
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sri |
@content |
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yko |
ohm. you want helpers also |
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* sri |
wants it all |
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sri |
<%= $foo->{bar} %> vs {{ $foo->{bar} }} |
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* tempire_ |
@$foo->{bar}, except for when it doesn't make sense |
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tempire_ |
eck |
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* tempire_ |
likes @$foo->{bar}, except for when it doesn't make sense |
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tempire_ |
I know! |
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tempire_ |
instead of @, a unicode snowman. |
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sri |
:) |
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yko |
☃->url_for |
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marcus |
sri: any chance TT can get the same nice error screens as the built in template system? |
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marcus |
http://nordaaker.com/docs/skit[…]110121-174905.jpg |
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marcus |
would be cooler if it actually showed where the error is |
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sri |
marcus: you can always make your own Mojo::Exception and throw it |
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marcus |
sri: but will it show the stack inside the TT template? |
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sri |
if you pass in the tt template source it could be fine |
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marcus |
ok |
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sri |
the stack hmm... |
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sri |
thats not so easy |
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sri |
i don't know enough about TT internals |
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sri |
stack trace depends on $SIG{__DIE__} |
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marcus |
I might try to I guess it's not as important as context |
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marcus |
will see if I can make a patch |
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sri |
getting stack traces in perl is very messy |
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marcus |
yes |
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a|newkirk[assoc] is now known as alnewkirk-away |
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sri |
marcus: https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]/Template.pm#L179 |
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sri |
that might help |
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sri |
i pass in template source and compiled perl for the look inside feature |
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marcus |
YOU ARE SO SMART YOU ARE SO SMART S M R T! I MEAN S M A R T |
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dekimsey |
sri: Per our conversation yesterday about apache and url rewriting, I have a solution that works. Mostly. It appears to fail in the base case, that is a url pointing to the root of the application. |
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GitHub123 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 56c86d5 (2 files in 2 dirs): css tweak - http://bit.ly/gtSeNn |
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su-bzero2 is now known as su-bzero[A] |
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su-bzero[A] is now known as su-bzero2 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Looks like Mojo::JSON is the fastest pure #perl json parser, not that it matters much but still nice. :) http://t.co/S5ZsGmj #mojolicious" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/28528075494924288 |
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MojoGuest980 |
From: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t[…]KkbQA1Ryg&cad=rja (1 hits) |
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dekimsey |
I've run into an issue where Mojo will not generate correct urls when mod_rewrite is used to redirect a request to the cgi. Specifically this appears to be in the case of the root path to the application not being processed correctly. I've made a change to Message::Request to honor it as well as a test or two. Who/where should I talk to about my patch? |
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sri |
dekimsey: that would be me |
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dekimsey |
Hah, well then, you are already partially familiar with what I was trying to do. |
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sri |
the test cases are all in t/mojo/message.t |
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sri |
lots of different CGI environments |
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dekimsey |
My change doesn't break any of the old tests/behavior as far as I can tell |
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sri |
ok, just show me |
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sri |
you're working on github master right? because that code changed recently (multiple times) |
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dekimsey |
how would be best to do that? |
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dekimsey |
yes, I just pulled it about an hour ago perhaps |
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sri |
depends, small patch nopaste, big changeset github fork |
| 19:41 |
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dekimsey |
I just pushed it to my fork. (https://github.com/dekimsey/mojo) |
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sri |
dekimsey: ok, what does the patch actually achieve? |
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dekimsey |
Assume that urls myapp/foo/bar are being rewritten to myapp/mycgi.cgi/foo/bar. This works, routing and urls are okay. But if we are rewrite myapp/ to myapp/mycgi.cgi this fails, as currently mojo tries to process this as myapp/mycgi.cgi/myapp. This fixes that behavior to be what I believe is more consistent. |
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sri |
the comments are rather confusing |
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dekimsey |
Yeah, I was just thinking that :) |
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sri |
but the change seems to make sense :) |
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dekimsey |
I need to step afk for about an hour or so. I'm sure I didn't sufficiently explain it, so message me if you'd like, I'll respond when I return. I apologize for having to leave in the middle of this. |
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dekimsey |
I'm glad the change is clear enough, its too simple |
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sri |
no problem, the test cases are rather good except for the comments ;p |
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dekimsey |
thanks, I'll revise them when I return and give ya a heads up |
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dekimsey |
Thanks again. And that wiki section I can write now |
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sri |
don't worry about the comments, i'll clean it up |
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mojo: master Daniel Kimsey * 82aa51a (2 files in 2 dirs): Apache mod_rewrite urls can be interpreted correctly. ... |
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mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 0e719b5 (4 files in 4 dirs): cleanup |
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mojo: master commits 56c86d5...0e719b5 - http://bit.ly/fBSmGO |
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sri |
dekimsey++ |
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non |
hi. when "manually" dispatching to controller $a, i've to do $self->session($a->session) to catch changes in sessions. is this really needed or does someone know a nicer way? |
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sri |
i think that question needs more context |
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sri |
what is "manually dispatching"? |
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non |
$r->route('/path')->to(controller=>'mydispatcher'); |
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non |
then in Mydispatcher: handle_request |
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* sri |
doesn't follow |
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non |
->to(controller=>'mydispatcher', action=>'handle_request'); |
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sri |
ok, nothing manual about that |
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non |
in handle_request another controller is loaded, initialized and a method get's called |
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sri |
ah, did you forget to copy the stash? |
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non |
hm... |
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non |
not explicit |
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non |
i called new with the app instance, but did not copy the stash explicit |
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sri |
you have app, tx and stash that need to be carried around |
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non |
$b->stash($self->stash) before calling my method? |
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dekimsey |
@sri, thanks! |
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sri |
non: look around https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]jolicious.pm#L211 |
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sri |
"$class->new(app => $self, stash => $stash, tx => $tx)" |
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sri |
anyway, why would you do that? |
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sri |
please don't say internal redirect :S |
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non |
that means i've to call new for each request? |
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sri |
what are you trying to achieve? |
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non |
i'm the jsonrpc guy.. :) |
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sri |
hmm... i thought we had a better solution :S |
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non |
and today i found another solution: http://search.cpan.org/~mbp/Mo[…]ooxdoo/Jsonrpc.pm |
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non |
i'm playing around with this.. |
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non |
yeah... our first solution was: $r->route('/jsonrpc')->over('jsonrpc'=>1)->over('auth'=>1); |
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non |
conditions and stuff... |
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sri |
redispatcher requires a lot of work to make it look sleek |
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sri |
it's very much not standard mojolicious stuff, you are extending core functionality |
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sri |
don't say i didn't warn you ;p |
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sri |
you will be building a *real* dispatcher, not unlike routes |
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non |
it feels more like Mojolicious-derived-rpc-thingy... |
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non |
yes.. or a routes replacement |
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non |
.. but i also don't need the html stuff in Mojolicious::Controller |
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sri |
i'm not stopping you if you want to build your own dispatcher :) |
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sri |
just warning that it will be tricky low level work |
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non |
low level work does not distract me... |
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non |
but i'm not sure about my level of reinventing the wheel... |
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non |
i'm trying to solve the session problem further.. |
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sri |
like i said before, i would always go for the route condition |
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sri |
since it allows reusing the mojolicious dispatcher |
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sri |
would be like 10 lines of code or so |
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sri |
btw. $r->route('/jsonrpc')->over('jsonrpc'=>1, 'auth'=>1); should also work |
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sri |
or even $r->post('/jsonrpc', jsonrpc => 1, auth => 1); |
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non |
ok. i think you're right. |
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sri |
ok, misfits is hilarious :) |
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