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bellair1 |
I'd like to suggest that the MOJO_NO_DETECT environment variable be documented. :) |
| 03:31 |
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bellair1 |
I had an issue earlier today. Basically using FastCGI in a non-standard way, so that detection failed. I assumed (wrongly) that passing "fastcgi" explicitly to Mojolicious::Commands->start() would work. |
| 03:32 |
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bellair1 |
However, auto-detection trumps whatever you pass to ->start() unless you set $ENV{MOJO_NO_DETECT} to a true value. |
| 03:33 |
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sri |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/wiki # thats what the wiki is for ;) |
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bellair1 |
Agreed. Where should that tidbit go? |
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sri |
somewhere under deployment |
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bellair1 |
kk, I'll add it. Thanks! |
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sri |
detection has to trump everything because servers sometimes pass random arguments |
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sri |
apache cgi for example passes query strings to the script |
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sri |
myapp.cgi?fastcgi -> myapp.cgi fastcgi |
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sri |
was a funny security issue |
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bellair1 |
Gotcha. That makes sense. I'll put that in the wiki, too. |
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sri |
good |
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bellair1 |
Okay, it's in there. Not sure why my link is underlined... |
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bellair1 |
Oh, github wiki followed links are underlined. Cute. |
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jdixon |
sri: I think the Test::Mojo docs are wrong/out-of-date. |
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jdixon |
or I'm not reading them correctly. |
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jdixon |
docs say to use format: |
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jdixon |
$t->post_form_ok('/foo', {test => 123}, {Expect => 'fun'}); |
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jdixon |
but for me it only works if all post params are in the same hashref. |
| 04:09 |
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jdixon |
for example: |
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jdixon |
$t->post_form_ok('/foo', {test => 123, Expect => 'fun}); |
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sri |
bellair++ |
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sri |
jdixon: Expect is an http header |
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jdixon |
oh duh |
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jdixon |
the docs could be a little clearer then, imho |
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* sri |
nods |
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jdixon |
not a lot, just a little. ;) |
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sri |
it's equal to Mojo::Client though |
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jdixon |
will a test sequence maintain a session? |
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sri |
yes |
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jdixon |
cool |
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sri |
you can even tweak $t->client yourself |
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sri |
gonna improve it once i'm done with the client recipe for today :) |
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jdixon |
cool |
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jdixon |
s/cool/awesome/ |
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jdixon |
need more variety in my responses ;) |
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sri |
shagadelic |
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GitHub175 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * f047f6c (13 files in 7 dirs): added cookbook recipe - http://bit.ly/gVMPzl |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "The #mojolicious client recipe for today addresses a few common questions at once, enjoy! :) http://t.co/XBCoTyO #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/30145067062661120 |
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GitHub170 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 7eea958 (1 files in 1 dirs): document MOJO_NO_DETECT - http://bit.ly/ftvgCP |
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MojoGuest669 |
test |
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ysyrota |
sri: here? |
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sri |
depends |
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ysyrota |
:) |
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ysyrota |
sri: it seems to me that the issue with "wonky" web server isn't fixed enough |
| 07:16 |
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ysyrota |
sri: your fix was not to set error status if HTTP header contain "Connection: close" |
| 07:17 |
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ysyrota |
sri: but in my environment (I go via proxy) I get "Proxy-Connection: close" in HTTP headers |
| 07:18 |
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sri |
yea the fix is not ideal |
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ysyrota |
sri: I tried to change M::Client in to consider "Proxy-Connection" header, and it started to work |
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yko |
The Proxy-Connection field is NOT a standard HTTP header field and may not be supported by all clients. :( |
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sri |
now that would be very broken yea |
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sri |
not an option |
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sri |
but feel free to find a real fix |
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GitHub2 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 890aae0 (1 files in 1 dirs): cleanup - http://bit.ly/foh5Vl |
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sri |
that might help a little, still not ideal though |
| 07:28 |
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yko |
sri: maybe something like this? https://gist.github.com/241bb8e81fe0afaedc2d |
| 07:29 |
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sri |
no fucking way |
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sri |
headers in general are just a hack |
| 07:29 |
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sri |
the root of the problem is that http parser and connection management are not really connected |
| 07:30 |
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sri |
they don't talk |
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sri |
accepting more headers is a bandaid fix for a bandaid fix |
| 07:32 |
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yko |
agree, it looks exactly like you said, just thinking how it can works, because looks like apache, squid and iis is known to send Proxy-Connection |
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Christian |
morning |
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sri |
connection is an hop by hop header, we do not care about Proxy-Connection |
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sri |
it does not matter |
| 07:34 |
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sri |
it is in fact very wrong |
| 07:35 |
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sri |
moin |
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sri |
actually your proxy must be completely broken :D |
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sri |
if it sends you a keep-alive header |
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GitHub170 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 0429168 (1 files in 1 dirs): brought http parser and connection managemement a little closer together - http://bit.ly/g4j5u2 |
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sri |
that might actually help |
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xantus[] |
I love the new exception tpl, and the favicon |
| 07:54 |
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xantus[] |
I've been away for a while |
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sri |
check the not_found one too ;) |
| 07:54 |
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xantus[] |
ooo |
| 07:55 |
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sri |
oh, and of course the new http://mojolicio.us |
| 07:55 |
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xantus[] |
hot butta |
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sri |
:D |
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xantus[] |
you could add some websocket stuff to add more of those connection things |
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xantus[] |
for each person on the site |
| 07:57 |
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xantus[] |
great work |
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xantus[] |
I'm using mojo again for a home project |
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xantus[] |
I setup a caching proxy using mojo, it injects js into some sites |
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xantus[] |
and that js connects back to mojo via websocket |
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xantus[] |
and adds functionality to the site |
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xantus[] |
kind of like my own greasemonkey |
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GitHub114 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 0daf5af (1 files in 1 dirs): cleanup - http://bit.ly/dHBVoQ |
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sri |
that might help even more |
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sri |
xantus[]: sounds quite fun |
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sri |
you really need to blog about that stuff |
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xantus[] |
yeah I do |
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xantus[] |
ugh, damn couchdb |
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xantus[] |
I added the ppa for ubuntu one, and installed couchdb 1.0.1, it crashes |
| 08:27 |
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marcus |
but if perl6 was mature, it would be raheh |
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marcus |
tugh |
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marcus |
incomplete sentence |
| 08:28 |
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sri |
damn |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "is finding time for some http://mojolicio.us (Mojolicious) projects (smileydance) http://plurk.com/p/ad7are" --zakame http://twitter.com/zakame/stat[…]30180455777046528 |
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sri |
no idea how to handle "HTTP/1.1 200 OK\r\n\r\n\r\n" |
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sri |
proxies like to send those after a successful CONNECT |
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sri |
a relaxed parser would wait for a content and connection close |
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sri |
grr |
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sri |
this is really bad :S |
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MojoGuest53 |
From: http://dev.xantus.org/ (40 hits) |
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MojoGuest53 |
test |
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xantus[] |
pass |
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xantus[] |
the upgrade failed to stop the previously running couchdb |
| 08:47 |
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sri |
yko, ysyrota: don't think we can handle it better |
| 08:47 |
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AmeliePoulain |
I try to add helper for site menu, but I've got an exception "Can't use string ("FW::Core::Controller::Contents") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Mojolicious/Controller.pm line 704". WTF? Code: http://pastebin.com/3DzSCNtT |
| 08:47 |
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AmeliePoulain |
Direct call (localhost:3000/core/content/menu/0) seems work. |
| 08:48 |
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sri |
i can actually capture connection close events, but the parser problem mentioned above makes it unimportant |
| 08:49 |
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ysyrota |
sri: it doesn't work for me |
| 08:49 |
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sri |
i know how to make it work, but that breaks other cases |
| 08:49 |
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ysyrota |
sri: I'v elooked into LWP, they use the following approach: https://gist.github.com/ebe7a8292e4dcc2e7195 |
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sri |
lwp keep alive code sucks even more |
| 08:52 |
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sri |
anyway, that line is not the problem |
| 08:53 |
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sri |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]o/Content.pm#L165 |
| 08:53 |
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sri |
that one is |
| 08:53 |
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sri |
it guesses which "wonky" response might have a body |
| 08:54 |
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sri |
in the client itself i could just use the real connection close events |
| 08:54 |
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sri |
but the guessing code has problems because of the case i mentioned above |
| 08:54 |
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sri |
"HTTP/1.1 200 OK\r\n\r\n\r\n" |
| 08:54 |
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sri |
this one really happens |
| 08:55 |
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sri |
i've only seen it as a response to CONNECT though |
| 08:55 |
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sri |
but who knows |
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purl |
and it's way past purl's bed time young man! |
| 08:57 |
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sri |
ysyrota: what Connection header does your proxy return? |
| 09:00 |
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ysyrota |
sri: here is the trace: https://gist.github.com/765244[…]d4f824fbd1c6a092e |
| 09:01 |
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sri |
interesting |
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sri |
hmm |
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sri |
great github bot dead again :S |
| 09:15 |
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sri |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]f54ac38d189633ad3 |
| 09:15 |
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sri |
ysyrota: that will fix it, but i'm not sure it is the right thing to do |
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* sri |
hates the real world |
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xantus[] |
I hate real world mtv |
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xantus[] |
awww, damnit |
| 09:44 |
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xantus[] |
Argument "3889, 3889" isn't numeric in subtraction (-) at mojo/lib/Mojo/Content/Single.pm line 89 |
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xantus[] |
ah, all of my headers have doubled |
| 09:49 |
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xantus[] |
I'm parsing a client response into the server's response |
| 09:49 |
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xantus[] |
$self->res->parse( $r->res->to_string ); |
| 09:53 |
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AmeliePoulain |
I'm doing "my $html = $c->render('contents/menu', partial => 1, items => $items);" but template was escaped (like <ul>). WTF? |
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xantus[] |
sri: still there? |
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purl |
or a puts method for strings or a Gay Males |
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* xantus[] |
punishes purl |
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* purl |
repents |
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memememomo is now known as memememomo_ |
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sri |
xantus[]: unintended use, you're on your own there |
| 10:00 |
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xantus[] |
uhh |
| 10:00 |
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sri |
AmeliePoulain: the documentation has all the answers (i usually don't answer to WTF btw., if you want something answered ask nicely) |
| 10:02 |
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marcus |
amelie from WTF |
| 10:03 |
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marcus |
xantus[]: I just hate the real world. |
| 10:03 |
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AmeliePoulain |
When I'm trying to partial render menu template, I has all HTML tags escaped. Template content - only HTML tags |
| 10:04 |
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sri |
and the documentation will answer why thats the case |
| 10:04 |
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sri |
please read it |
| 10:04 |
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xantus[] |
oh, wait, its the 404 page |
| 10:04 |
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xantus[] |
if theres an error, all headers are doubled |
| 10:04 |
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marcus |
Oo |
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sri |
parsing and building with the same message instance is untested afair |
| 10:09 |
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sri |
there might be buffering issues, so i never bothered |
| 10:10 |
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xantus[] |
yeah, odd things are happening after I updated |
| 10:10 |
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marcus |
hmmhmm |
| 10:10 |
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xantus[] |
from like 2 days ago |
| 10:10 |
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marcus |
mojolicious apps can't be installed like catalyst ones, sri? |
| 10:10 |
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sri |
? |
| 10:10 |
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marcus |
with make install |
| 10:11 |
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sri |
no idea |
| 10:11 |
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marcus |
seems it won't copy over public and templates |
| 10:11 |
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sri |
yea of course not |
| 10:11 |
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sri |
no way i'm going to use that hack ever again ;p |
| 10:12 |
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marcus |
hmm, weird, it works |
| 10:13 |
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marcus |
sri: means I can't use the package building system at $client |
| 10:13 |
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sri |
i'm sure you can use a sharedir hack and redefine app->home |
| 10:13 |
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marcus |
that generates debs from apps |
| 10:13 |
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xantus[] |
argggg |
| 10:14 |
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xantus[] |
I |
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xantus[] |
I'll revert |
| 10:14 |
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marcus |
I have no idea how it is finding home now :) |
| 10:14 |
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sri |
artifical intelligence |
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purl |
artifical intelligence is the best artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. |
| 10:15 |
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marcus |
oh, it's because I have the source dir in $INC |
| 10:15 |
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marcus |
so it finds the .pm, and finds home based on that. |
| 10:16 |
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sri |
making catalyst apps installable was a nice try, but imo a complete failure in the end |
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marcus |
heh |
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marcus |
I know lots of people who depend on it |
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sri |
for the wrong reasons |
| 10:17 |
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marcus |
I disagree |
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marcus |
it's a weakness in mojolicious imo |
| 10:17 |
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sri |
it was intended to make people release web apps on cpan |
| 10:18 |
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marcus |
I did that too |
| 10:18 |
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sri |
which never worked out |
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sri |
yea there are like 3? :) |
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yko |
marcus: you can put all stuff in __DATA__ or so :p |
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marcus |
yko: die in a fire |
| 10:18 |
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purl |
HALP |
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* yko |
dances |
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marcus |
sri: there are like 10. Which is about half of the total open source apps out there :p |
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marcus |
open source perl apps even |
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marcus |
but there are a bunch of other use cases, like being able to make debs easily for your apps. very important in the enterprise :p |
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* sri |
disagrees |
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marcus |
well, it might be a deal breaker for this prototype |
| 10:21 |
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marcus |
just sayin |
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sri |
then use catalyst ;p |
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marcus |
ok |
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marcus |
guess we will |
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marcus |
the rest of the codebase is catalyst anyways |
| 10:24 |
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sri |
marcus: i wouldn't mind bundling it if it wasn't too much code |
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sri |
and of course it would have to be well tested |
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marcus |
sri: ok. I will consider it. If we're doing it, we should make it prettier than the way catalyst does it |
| 10:26 |
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marcus |
the paths catalyst use are horrible |
| 10:26 |
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sri |
just because it is not included doesn't mean you can't do it of course |
| 10:26 |
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sri |
File::ShareDir should just work |
| 10:27 |
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marcus |
sri: I might write a little mojo extension |
| 10:27 |
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sri |
you might even be able to make it a plugin ;p |
| 10:27 |
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marcus |
the only worry I have is the home dir detection |
| 10:27 |
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marcus |
yeah |
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sri |
you can override that |
| 10:27 |
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sri |
set public and templates manually |
| 10:27 |
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sri |
from the plugin |
| 10:28 |
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sri |
the ugly part would be the makefile i guess |
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sri |
but mojolicious intentionally doesn't touch that |
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sri |
you might just have to bundle your own makefile generator that uses Module::Install |
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sri |
hmm |
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sri |
actually i think you could make it even easier |
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sri |
just move public and templates into lib/MyApp |
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sri |
and have the plugin change both paths based on the location of MyApp.pm :) |
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sri |
or don't use a plugin at all |
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sri |
yea, you can make mojolicious apps installable already |
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sri |
boring |
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xantus[] |
I found what commit broke my stuff :/ |
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xantus[] |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]412b57d1a0211dd53 |
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sri |
that does not at all look related to the issue you reported |
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sri |
anyway, marcus and tempire made me do it, all complaints to them please :D |
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xantus[] |
I'm using wildcards |
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xantus[] |
the previous tree: https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]d84a0ce36a5a09350 |
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xantus[] |
works for me |
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xantus[] |
I have to sleep, I'll invesigate more tomorrow |
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sri |
maybe you're using something untested |
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* sri |
shrugs |
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marcus |
fun times |
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sri |
but it is all marcus fault! :) |
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marcus |
glad to be of service. |
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xantus[] |
:( |
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marcus |
didn't say you had to deprecate wildcard routes tho :) |
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marcus |
just make them default |
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sri |
you might just have to add $self->render_later somewhere |
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sri |
i can imagine a few async cases that could go wrong otherwise |
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marcus |
I see that test added a render_later |
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marcus |
that commit |
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sri |
yes |
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sri |
thats the only case i can think of that might have side effects |
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marcus |
don't quite understand why name affects render_later |
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sri |
auto rendering |
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sri |
name = auto renderer looking for $name.html.ep |
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sri |
or actually $name.*.* |
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sri |
i told you about that! |
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marcus |
and name => '"' too? |
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marcus |
'*' |
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sri |
yes |
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sri |
once a name is there it will try to find a template if you didn't render anything |
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sri |
which can result in an early 404 for async cases |
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sri |
thats the whole point of render_later! |
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sri |
it tells the auto renderer to lay back and relax ;p |
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sri |
thats what i warned about -.- |
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marcus |
actually, you warned about another issue :) |
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marcus |
and told me you wouldn't do it. |
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marcus |
so I am surprised you did it |
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sri |
that other issue was just a bug |
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sri |
but i warned about this one too |
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marcus |
fair enough |
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marcus |
you really should use render_later in these cases |
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sri |
thats exactly why i asked people to test the change |
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sri |
https://twitter.com/#!/kraih/s[…]29274197943394304 |
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sri |
https://twitter.com/#!/kraih/s[…]29276746230534145 |
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sri |
we have 3 alternatives now |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Death to #catalyst. All hail #mojolicious and the #hypnotoad." --perlninja http://twitter.com/perlninja/s[…]30217551912902657 |
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* marcus |
gives a blank stare |
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marcus |
=) |
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sri |
1) revert everything 2) accept that render_later is needed for async rendering 3) don't render 404 for non existent templates |
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marcus |
well, I actually met the render_later case even before this change |
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sri |
i'm so going to retweet that |
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marcus |
seeing as people name their templates for other reasons than autorendering |
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marcus |
might as well make it a custom to do render_later in all cases |
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marcus |
but actually, I like 3) the best |
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marcus |
I never liked the 404 for missing templates |
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marcus |
it doesn't seem useful. |
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marcus |
and it's almost always a surprise |
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sri |
interesting |
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sri |
it's actually a ep handler feature |
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sri |
so you might hit it again with tt and friends ;p |
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sri |
because of cargo culting |
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marcus |
hurrah |
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PerlNinja |
no idea what we're hurrah-ing for but i'll second the hurrah. |
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PerlNinja |
*goes back to converting a catalyst app to a mojolicious app* |
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sri |
hurrah-ing is rather common around here :) |
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PerlNinja |
:D that's a good thing |
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PerlNinja |
I'll save up a bunch for later, first I need to regain my sanity and show the cat the door, driving me completely and utterly insane at the moment |
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PerlNinja |
(the cat being catalyst) |
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marcus |
PerlNinja: it was a hurrah for cargo culting |
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marcus |
/Users/marcus/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.10.1/lib/site_perl/5.10.1/auto/share/dist/Startsiden-TVGuide-Web5/static/ SO UGLY :( |
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GitHub161 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 5001e9f (6 files in 5 dirs): changed Mojolicious::Plugin::EplRenderer to not render 404 errors for missing templates - http://bit.ly/ibXhAw |
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sri |
lets see how it goes |
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sri |
a few test cases had to go since they simply hang now |
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sri |
(for obvious reasons) |
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marcus |
async ones? |
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sri |
everything is async |
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sri |
if you don't render it hangs |
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marcus |
right |
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PerlNinja |
oh, silly question maybe, but what revision of the websockets spec was the one supported in Mojolicious? |
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sri |
76 |
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sri |
don't use websockets though |
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sri |
the protocol will break completely |
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marcus |
also, most browsers have disabled it 'for security reasons' |
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PerlNinja |
yeah, and FF and Chrome are off on what they support too |
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PerlNinja |
kinda sucks, if people could just agree on what the heck they want, I'd be able to add snazzy eyecandy to my app... eyecandy make boss happy. happy boss pay happy me. now, no happy. |
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marcus |
go on a ninja killing spree instead |
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PerlNinja |
I would but I'd have to perl people to death |
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PerlNinja |
and there's so many ways to do that, I can't choose! |
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PerlNinja |
I'll settle for doing a total conversion from catalyst to mojolicious in under 6 hours... I got 6 cans of red bull and a pot of coffee, so it should work out. If later on I start acting weird(er), don't worry, I'm a professional! |
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marcus |
that is not my definition of a professional :p |
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PerlNinja |
professional caffeine addict :0 |
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PerlNinja |
:) |
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PerlNinja |
I'm an oddball, if I need to do some serious work, caffeine, nicotine and loud music are required ingredients for a good day |
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GitHub72 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 9a29c15 (4 files in 3 dirs): handle missing action error more gracefully - http://bit.ly/g6dagO |
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AmeliePoulain |
I wrote controller's method which must to return JSON (for AJAX). I tried this code but I had HTML page with a template instead of JSON. What I doing wrong? |
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AmeliePoulain |
$self->render(json => encode_json FW::Core::Model::Page->select({ page_id => $page_id })->hash()); |
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AmeliePoulain |
*without encode_json |
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GitHub167 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 94e1541 (2 files in 1 dirs): fixed typos - http://bit.ly/dRVMJe |
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GitHub164 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 198c258 (1 files in 1 dirs): added another cookbook recipe - http://bit.ly/eXo2yy |
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sri |
marcus: a little bonus recipe to make you stop whining ;p |
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* marcus |
whines |
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marcus |
squeal like a pig! |
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purl |
I don't see Ned Beatty anywhere, sorry. |
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* sri |
pokes marcus |
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* marcus |
peeks at sri |
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sri |
Oo |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "By popular demand, here's a fun little bonus recipe. ;) http://t.co/RLVZVJy #perl #mojolicious" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/30239167623467008 |
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marcus |
sri: cute! |
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marcus |
I like it. |
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marcus |
much less work |
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marcus |
and I can even symlink the dirs for convenience |
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sri |
oh |
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sri |
even better recipe :o |
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sri |
but i'll leave that for the wiki :) |
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marcus |
hmmmm |
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marcus |
Use of inherited AUTOLOAD for non-method Startsiden::TVGuide::Web5::dirname() is deprecated at urgh |
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marcus |
never mind that |
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marcus |
fucking tt renderer isn't respecting ->renderer->root |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "@perlninja @vidluther Agreed. The simple stuff isn't quite so simple. Have them compare Mojolicious and see what comes out on top." --obfuscurity http://twitter.com/obfuscurity[…]30253865857191936 |
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sri |
aww |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "@obfuscurity @vidluther catalyst: plenty lot of dependencies. mojolicious: no dependencies. Big difference in ease of deploying/updating" --perlninja http://twitter.com/perlninja/s[…]30254364144705536 |
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GitHub24 |
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marcus |
hmm, does svn not understand symlinks? |
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sri |
what's svn? ;p |
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sri |
there was no life before git |
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marcus |
I'm using git-svn at this client |
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marcus |
but it still sucks |
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marcus |
they need to update their build system before we can switch |
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marcus |
<3 git rebase -i HEAD^^ |
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sri |
<3 |
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* sri |
wonders if github is running on ec2 |
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marcus |
I believe they have actual physical servers of their own |
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marcus |
they used to be hosted at engineyard |
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sri |
ah, rackspace now |
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marcus |
mm |
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marcus |
noticed as well |
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PerlNinja |
back again... quick question, if you're doing user authentication and stuff, where's the best spot to deal with loading/storing the session and picking up the user from it? hook it somewhere or override the process sub and sledgehammer it in? |
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sri |
hell no |
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sri |
just use under/bridge |
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sri |
the sledgehammer would be a hook actually |
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PerlNinja |
okay, can i render templates from a bridge cb without things going a bit cuckoo? |
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sri |
nobody overloads anymore |
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sri |
sure |
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PerlNinja |
ok, and what's the "best practice" for keeping a user object around? stick it in the stash or poke in an accessor in the app class? |
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sri |
stash |
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sri |
app class is persistent |
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sri |
don't put stuff in there |
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sri |
(request specific stuff) |
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PerlNinja |
ok, makes sense |
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PerlNinja |
well that solves that :D thx! |
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jdixon |
under/bridge? I grab my user session data in app->hook(after_static_dispatch). |
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PerlNinja |
I guess both work, because only the stuff that needs auth is stuck under the bridge, maybe saves a trip to the db for some requests no? unless i fail at how routes work.. |
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jdixon |
what is "under/bridge"? |
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marcus |
water/under/bridge |
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marcus |
jdixon: read the routing guide? |
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jdixon |
yeah, but I usually just nibble at it. :) |
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jdixon |
I try to stay in Lite. |
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marcus |
anything under under will only run if under returns true |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc?Mo[…]icious/Lite#Under |
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sri |
it's the swiss army knife of routing |
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PerlNinja |
speaking of.. can you do a bridge under a bridge? |
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sri |
as many as you like |
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sri |
in a tree structure |
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jdixon |
sri: thanks, that's a good example |
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PerlNinja |
rockin |
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jdixon |
I still like being able to tell it exactly when to run, e.g., after static dispatch. |
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sri |
that runs for absolutely everything though |
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sri |
outside of routes, even for static files |
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sri |
it's the sledgehammer |
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jdixon |
what does? under or static dispatch? |
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jdixon |
under |
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jdixon |
yes, I know |
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sri |
hooks |
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marcus |
under will not run for static dispatch |
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jdixon |
hmm |
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jdixon |
ok |
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sri |
under can be as specific as you make it |
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sri |
under '/auth' => sub {...}; |
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sri |
it is part of the routing tree |
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sri |
while hooks work around it |
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jdixon |
ok |
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ysyrota |
sri: the patch fixed the issue with closed connections, thanks! |
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sri |
not sure yet if it is a good solution |
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sri |
guess we'll see |
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PerlNinja |
if it didn't blow up any servers and devour any small pets, it should be okay |
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sri |
:) |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Why I chose to build a #Plack framework instead of using #Mojolicious http://tinyurl.com/46zvjt5 #perl" --vtivti http://twitter.com/vtivti/stat[…]30293093521559552 |
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Christian |
cu all |
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devours a small pet |
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osnap |
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PerlNinja |
question, mojolicious app, $self->plugin('tt_renderer'); .. got a template in templates/auth/login.html.tt - and i can't seem to convince it to be rendered; in a controller action: $self->render(template => 'auth/login', handler => 'tt') does not seem to do the trick, what am I doing wrong? |
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tempire_ |
wow, vti definitely has some opinions. |
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PerlNinja |
yeah was kinda surprised at that |
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* tempire_ |
still loves vti |
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* tempire_ |
and remains a huge fan of mojolicious |
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PerlNinja |
now if we're comparing plack and catalyst he might have a bunch of very good points but i don't see it with mojo |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "The Painful Truth: RT @ vtivti Why I chose to build a # Plack framework instead of using # Mojolicious http://tinyurl.com/46zvjt5 # perl" (ru) --spleenjack http://twitter.com/spleenjack/[…]30301681933623296 |
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PerlNinja |
see, now ^ that .. |
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PerlNinja |
is not a good opinion :D |
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PerlNinja |
anyway uhm, anyone have any seriously brilliant ideas as to why i can't seem to get my TT templates to render? :D |
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yko |
PerlNinja: i'm afraid there's not too much people using TT with Mojolicious |
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dekimsey |
We are using it, I'm fairly new to Mojolicious, but I can try to help what's the problem? |
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tempire_ |
I used to use tt, but switched to ep shininess. |
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dekimsey |
@PerlNinja does it generate any errors, like template not found or the like? |
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yko |
PerlNinja: it just works: https://gist.github.com/8e2872cb29507f8a2378 |
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PerlNinja |
dekimsey, yeah |
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Mojolicious::Controller:473 [11968]: Resource "auth/login.html.ep" not found. |
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PerlNinja |
it's the .ep bit that's got me a bit stumped, if I use $self->render(template => 'foo/bar', handler => 'tt') that should work no? |
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dekimsey |
Frankly, not sure. We've simply set 'tt' as the default handler. We don't actually do anything special in our actions to specify the templates. |
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bellaire |
You do have MojoX::Renderer::TT installed? |
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yko |
bellaire: he uses plugin, so should be so |
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PerlNinja |
ah, dekimsey, how did you set tt as the default handler :D |
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PerlNinja |
yeah I do bellaire, came along with the plugin :) |
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yko |
PerlNinja: https://gist.github.com/8e2872cb29507f8a2378 <-- just try that |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Sign up for our Mojolicious event kicking off fashion week on February 12th 2011. 100 dollars per ticket. includes... http://fb.me/E2KSx1TJ" --bibisalonnyc http://twitter.com/bibisalonny[…]30305303350222848 |
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dekimsey |
$self->renderer->default_handler('tt'); |
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PerlNinja |
ok lemme see what that does |
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yko |
just try ./tt.pl get / |
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PerlNinja |
that did the trick |
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PerlNinja |
default handler set to tt |
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PerlNinja |
and render('auth/login') got it to work |
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PerlNinja |
weird |
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PerlNinja |
oh well |
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gizzlon |
Whats up with vti? That rant seemed higly emotional .. |
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gizzlon |
Maybe sri tried to kiss him or something .. =/ |
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bellaire |
There's more than one way to rant. |
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gizzlon |
:) |
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PerlNinja |
wait, sri tries to kiss people? |
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backs away slowly |
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gizzlon |
dunno.. but something or somebody made vti mad |
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gizzlon |
PerlNinja: your on irc... it's saf :d |
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gizzlon |
+e |
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purl |
2.71828182845905 |
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PerlNinja |
and yeah i dunno, vti sounds a little peeved |
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bellaire |
I notice that it's possible to embed templates inside individual controller classes, if we like, provided the controller calls $self->{template_class} = __PACKAGE__ prior to rendering. |
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bellaire |
But I'm not sure of how to set that outside of the action method itself... Can it be done from a before_dispatch hook? |
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yko |
bellaire: you can take tempaltes from any class at all. See https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]odRenderer.pm#L23 |
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yko |
and line 120 of the same file |
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PerlNinja |
any way to do things like, using the AgentCondition to only allow access to a certain set of browsers, and to redirect the others to another page? |
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yko |
PerlNinja: http://mojolicio.us/perldoc?Mo[…]ondition#SYNOPSIS |
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yko |
i think if you add another get '/' below, you will catch all other browsers |
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PerlNinja |
yuak |
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PerlNinja |
i keep forgetting there's cool docs now |
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yko |
feel free to try and share your experience with us :) |
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bellaire |
yko: I'm not sure I follow. This is done from inside a register() method, but do controllers have such a method? Or do I have to subclass Mojolicious::Plugin to get the templates "known"? |
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yko |
> done from a before_dispatch hook, ye? |
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yko |
in hooks you have controller instance as a first argument |
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bellaire |
Hmm, when I tested, the class of the first argument was Mojolicious::Controller, not my subclass... |
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bellaire |
Maybe I was doing it wrong, I'll try again. :) |
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yko |
no it's ok |
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yko |
is there any difference for you? you want just render some template from some class, don't you? |
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PerlNinja |
nyum.. i think... doing a route('/')->over(thegood) and a route('/')->over(thebad) might work but that's just guessing right now :p |
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bellaire |
Well I want the templates specifically from the controller class that's handling the dispatch. Basically so I can write one-off templates inline with the controllers for quick work. |
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bellaire |
If I set $self->{template_class} = __PACKAGE__ from within the action, in the controller, then the template_class is "App::C::Test", for example, which is where the inline template is actually defined. |
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bellaire |
Which is fine, I just didn't know if there was a place I could go to set that behavior up once for all controllers. |
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yko |
bellaire: you need all templates in one controller? |
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bellaire |
No, I want to have the template for App::C::Main in Main.pm, the ones for App::C::Test in Test.pm, and so forth. |
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bellaire |
I see the default_template_class which would do it if I put them all in one place :) |
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yko |
not sure it's possible to do waht you want to do |
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bellaire |
Okay. Like I said, it works with adding that line to each action, so I'll do that for now... |
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yko |
why don't you use temlpates in files/ |
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yko |
it's much easier to edit, especially if you don't have mojo.vim :D |
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bellaire |
I will, eventually, for most things. I'm thinking this is for quick development. So I write a controller and I set up a quick template to just show me some basic output while I work before I go and work on making the "real" version. |
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yko |
mojolicious::lite is for quick develompent! >_< |
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yko |
mojolicious is for quick development also, but in a bit other way :) |
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bellaire |
Right, and mojolicious::lite uses default_template_class = $caller to do its thing. |
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dekimsey |
i think he simply wants the mojolicous::lite auto-detect DATA block functionality available to his mojolicious controller's. |
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yko |
something like that. |
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yko |
i see few ways to do that but each is a bit hackish. |
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Twitter: "Why I chose to build a Plack framework instead of using Mojolicious / No time to wait http://dlvr.it/F85Wh" (ja) --RtestR http://twitter.com/RtestR/stat[…]30322319352139776 |
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bellaire |
Yes... *muahahahahahaa* |
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yko |
if i do so, i would have own controller base class (i anyway have own base controller class for each my application) |
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bellaire |
And overload ->new? |
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bellaire |
er... |
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yko |
no. render |
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bellaire |
Render is better than new. :) |
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yko |
sub render { my $self = shift; $self->stash(template_class => __PACKAGE); $self->SUPER::render } |
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yko |
there's few typos, but you can see idea |
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bellaire |
Oh ya... looks good. I think I'll do that. Do you think vti knows about subclassing? |
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yko |
when sebastian came back he will punish me for that hack :D |
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bellaire |
Hey, I was about to do the same to new(), so it's not that bad. :-) |
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yko |
well, you can go and ask him |
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bellaire |
No, I won't want to make people angry with me. I dont like it. |
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yko |
bellaire: oh. dont forget to pass @_ to render. |
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bellaire |
Yes, thx. |
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yko |
and you know, all that stuff is a bit non-default and in end yoll have to inflate that classes one day |
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yko |
for sure it's easy with mojo inflate --class=Foo::Bar but anyway you should do it in the end |
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yko |
so i don't see reason not to do it from start (only if you are using some non-functional text editor |
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bellaire |
Yeah, this is just a nifty new idea. Been working with templates in files for years, we rolled our own (or rather dekimsey did) sharedir-based solution for keeping templates close to their applications in a CGI::App based setup. |
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bellaire |
It's just a little trick to save a little time in the early stages. |
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yko |
well, you are warned |
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bellaire |
I am warned. Thanks. |
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bellaire |
Maybe I'll add a check so that it only works if MOJO_MODE is "development" and not "production" ;) |
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bellaire |
Works great. And only if (defined $ENV{MOJO_MODE} and $ENV{MOJO_MODE} eq 'development') |
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yko |
bellaire: it can be painfull |
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yko |
one day you will remove template from data but it will exists in templates/ ... |
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bellaire |
Aren't I supposed to put them in templates/ when I remove them from data? |
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yko |
imagine: inflated for producition and than removed from __data__ or so. ignore me, i'm a bit paranoid sometimes |
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dekimsey |
Some deeper parts of my application rely on libraries that use Exception::Class objects being thrown... it looks as though Mojo's wrapping them in its own exception object and as a result mangling the libraries exception detection logic. Any suggestions on how to approach this? First thought I've had is patching Mojo to be able to understand Exception::Class objects |
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marcus |
:o |
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* marcus |
just read vti's latest blogpost. |
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marty |
Ya me too. wow |
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marty |
It's an interesting opinion. Personally, I'm still a big mojolicous fan. I'm not half as good a programmer as vti so in my case, having things done for me is a gooood thing. Keeps me out of trouble. :) |
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Twitter: "Why I chose to build a Plack framework instead of using Mojolicious / No time to wait http://dlvr.it/F8LS9" (ja) --RtestR http://twitter.com/RtestR/stat[…]30344242521972736 |
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PerlNinja |
mmm, he has a valid point from an abstract view, but using mojolicious is about as far away as you can get from being locked in to a way things work. Mojolicious's guts are much more accessible and malleable than Catalyst for example |
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Twitter: "http://bit.ly/gfGaN4 Why I chose to build a Plack framework instead of using Mojolicious / No time to wait I've invested a lot of time i.." (ja) --recenturl http://twitter.com/recenturl/s[…]30346259881529344 |
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marcus |
Well, he has a point from a framework-builder perspective. |
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marcus |
Not so much from a web developer perspective. |
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marcus |
I actually don't care so much since i am not trying to write a web framework on top of mojo. |
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bellaire |
So, dekimsey is dying to know (pun intended), is nobody else having an issue with the fact that _walk_stack sets $SIG{__DIE__} in such a way that it mangles other types of exception objects? |
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tempire_ |
I'm with you, marcus |
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tempire_ |
it's possible what drew vti to mojolicious in the first place was the Mojo namespace. |
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tempire_ |
sri seemed to move away from that when the catalyst community wasn't interested in it. |
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tempire_ |
I don't know for sure, but I'd say vti is on a building kick. |
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tempire_ |
boose is an indicator of that. |
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tempire_ |
if that's the case, mojolicious doesn't make much sense for him. |
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tempire_ |
I personally like that mojolicious has "one" or near to one right way to do things. |
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marcus |
I just dislike the bitter feeling of the post, |
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tempire_ |
It's something Perl needs if it's going to draw attention from other language developers. |
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tempire_ |
Yeah, I agree. |
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tempire_ |
But I'm choosing to believe I'm just reading too much into it. |
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marcus |
And the code examples aren't very fair either. |
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tempire_ |
We don't really know what went when he disappeared. I was encouraged that sri 'thanked him dearly' in the pod, though. |
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tempire_ |
I think the important thing here is for everyone involved in mojolicious not to take it personally. |
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marcus |
True |
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PerlNinja |
i can has stupid question; $r->route('/foo/:something')->to('foo#index') -- what i want index to do, is render a template from templates/foo/<something> ... self->render don't do it right (wants index.html.tt), self->render(template => $self->stash('something')) also doesn't pick it up ... how to go about this? |
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tempire_ |
PerlNinja: what template is it looking for when you do self->render(template => $self->stash('something'))? |
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PerlNinja |
I actually do $self->render(template => sprintf('foo/%s', $self->stash('something'))) but it looks for foo/index.html.tt |
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PerlNinja |
it gets the something right in the stash though |
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what template does it look for when you do $self->render( template => 'avalue' ); |
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* sri |
punishes yko for that hack |
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sri |
must be the three letter nicks -.- |
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sri |
"Do you like self explanatory code and hate overused comments?" |
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sri |
nuff said ;p |
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perl community is awesome :-) |
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