Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2011-04-22

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00:28 tempire I think nyan.cat accurately describes my employers business plan.
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00:46 tempire GAH are my initials.
00:47 tempire Your emotional outbursts are confusing to me.
00:47 tempire What!?
00:47 purl ANSWER THE QUESTION!
00:48 sri oO
01:00 crab moo flirbl
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01:09 perlrocks Twitter: "A little Mojolicious::Lite and Net::Disqus example http://tinyurl.com/3rtr3sl  #example #mojolicious #perl" --perlninja http://twitter.com/perlninj​a/status/61235128545972224
01:10 PerlNinja ok, i think that tops off my quota of good deeds done today
01:11 PerlNinja (yes i know, that's some nasty butt-ugly code but.. 8:15am, no sleep yet... brain.. not here... must.. wargarblll)
01:12 sri that's not healthy
01:13 PerlNinja what, the code or my sleeping patterns? :P
01:13 sri i've not looked at the code, but my guess it both ;p
01:14 PerlNinja the sleep thing is ... actually kinda normal, every since staying awake for near on 7 days straight on a near-overdose of caffeine pills, coffee, red bull and so on... when i was about 19 .. I can't sleep for more than 5 hours at a time
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01:14 PerlNinja given I woke up at .. oh.. dunno, 2pm yesterday, it sort of works out... but yeh, the code is uhm... "interesting"
01:14 PerlNinja but it works
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01:17 PerlNinja besides I updated Net::Disqus today and wrote moar Mojolicious plugins too... so I  figure now my karmic balance has evened out
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02:26 perlrocks Twitter: "PerlNinja: A little Mojolicious::Lite and Net::Disqus example http://bit.ly/gOwnix" --perlironman http://twitter.com/perlironm​an/status/61254411258834944
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04:44 marcus sometimes I think tempire is xantus
04:44 marcus but then I get sober and it all passes
04:48 marcus hmm
04:49 marcus I would think the main advantage of doing javascript on the server side would be able to reuse that on the client side
04:49 marcus but I see very little of that in the node.js camp
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07:34 garu is sharinfulin (yko?) still hanging around? there's a typo in his mail plugin
07:35 garu also, is there a way to hook the response? specifically, is there a way to add code before a 404?
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07:48 yakudzo garu, sharinfulin is not yko. yko now lies under the turkish sun and not avaible  (;
07:56 garu well, the module is sharinfulin's, so he's the one I'm actually after =)
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08:43 perlrocks Twitter: "# Mojolicious - familiarity with vebom out of the box ": What is Mojolicious. Introduction With ... http://goo.gl/fb/VR3a6" (ru) --dimio_d http://twitter.com/dimio_d​/status/61349480141819904
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10:16 perlrocks Twitter: "Ah Mojolicious, you're going to make life so much easier! All Perl geeks should check it out! http://mojolicio.us/ #GeeksOnly" --endontoddy http://twitter.com/endontod​dy/status/61372850141020160
10:23 PerlNinja moritz, forgot whether it was you or marcus but you said you'd like to be able to test javascript on your mojolicious app pages right? check out WWW::Scripter
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10:37 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious Web Framework - Join the Perl revolution! Http://htn.to/GP4oDT" (ja) --holidayworking http://twitter.com/holidaywor​king/status/61378164173185024
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11:06 perlrocks Twitter: "Welcome GLMF #138 http://1nw.eu/!3Y and my article on #Mojolicious (the code behind 1nw.eu)." --jvehent http://twitter.com/jvehent​/status/61385488010981376
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12:02 PerlNinja Mojo::Test++
12:13 * sri yawns
12:14 * PerlNinja pours some high-octane coffee in sri's mouth
12:14 PerlNinja sleep is for the weak!
12:14 PerlNinja and the sleepy...
12:14 purl the sleepy is, like, the split that purifies. or a state that you should give into when it is upon you in the early morning hours and i am sitting in front of a screen 'working' on crap of questionable importance
12:14 PerlNinja ...
12:17 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious-Plugin-Authentication v0.5.0 by MADCAT - http://frepan.org/~madcat/Mojolici​ous-Plugin-Authentication-v0.5.0/" --cpan_new http://twitter.com/cpan_ne​w/status/61403342076776449
12:32 sri hmm, twitter seems dead again
12:36 PerlNinja maybe the failraptor ate the failwhale
12:43 perlrocks Twitter: "Neat, there's an article about #mojolicious (by @jvehent) in the french gnu/linux magazine. http://t.co/mSkzOvF #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/61409833932435456
12:43 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious-Plugin-Mongodb 0.05 by MADCAT - http://frepan.org/~madcat/Moj​olicious-Plugin-Mongodb-0.05/" --cpan_new http://twitter.com/cpan_ne​w/status/61409913645170688
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12:52 marcus moin
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12:53 GitHub128 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * fe207fd (4 files in 4 dirs): fixed Mojo::JSON string size limit - http://bit.ly/gBP9DL
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12:53 PerlNinja mornin
12:58 marcus weakness is for the weak
12:58 sri beer is for the thirsty
13:12 marcus I was pretty thirsty last night
13:13 marcus And I tried my best to quench it, but for some reason I am still thirsty this morning
13:13 j-v-e sri: GLMF article will be released under CC after 4 months, so that takes us to end of august
13:13 j-v-e it's fairly basic content though, merely a discovery of MVC and Mojolicious
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13:53 sri cool
13:54 sri introductions is exactly what we need
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15:24 sri interesting
15:25 sri going through the renderer for raw bytes costs about 80 rps
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15:27 GitHub99 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * fda409c (5 files in 3 dirs): micro optimizations - http://bit.ly/fzTB6X
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15:28 sri not like anyone would use render_text in a serious application...
15:29 sri but it's intersting for hello world
15:30 Sugar how to start mojo_lite app under starman?
15:30 sri starman myapp.pl?
15:31 sri i suppose you might also want MOJO_MODE=production
15:34 Sugar thanx
15:34 Sugar starman and hynpnotad are equal by speed in small apps
15:35 Sugar *hypnotoad
15:36 sri yea, outside of micro benchmarks there should be no big differences between decent web app servers
15:39 sri perl is really great performance wise
15:40 sri ruby has to use a full C stack to get close
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15:40 sri one of the reasons i find sinatra benchmarks so amusing
15:40 PerlNinja don't let the ruby fanbois hear you, they'll be firing up their torches and pitchforks
15:41 sri /o\
15:42 sri i also like the node.js fanbois
15:43 sri "node.js rocks because you can always use C++ for performance!"
15:43 sri they seriously write crap like that when someone publishes a bad benchmark
15:51 j-v-e node.js speaks SPDY now, that will certainly attrack a bunch of fanboys
15:52 sri i think google will at some point abandon apdy
15:52 sri *spdy
15:53 sri once websockets can do the same job
15:58 sri i don't think we can implement spdy in perl atm, even if we wanted
15:58 sri it requires SSL with NPN
16:14 sri oh, 20gb timemachine backup :o
16:14 sri i really need to do this more often
16:16 stephanj
16:16 stephanj NPN?
16:16 purl NPN is OK rght?
16:17 sri next protocol negotiation
16:18 sri it's quite cool, your server makes a list of supported protocols and during the ssl handshake the client selects the one it likes most
16:18 stephanj like http or ftp?
16:19 sri like http or spdy
16:19 sri they use it as the spdy handshake, so if a client doesn't speak spdy it falls back to http
16:20 j-v-e nice, I didn't know that
16:20 stephanj ok
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16:40 PerlNinja node.js fanbois are also worse than ruby fanbois; node.js fanbois see it as a hammer and everything as a nail, at least the ruby fanbois have enough common sense to know ruby's limitations
16:40 PerlNinja just to jump in on an old conversation :D
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16:46 sri i think the worst part about node.js is C++
16:51 PerlNinja it is yeah
16:51 PerlNinja although you could say the same for perl modules that use XS to make things faster :P
16:51 PerlNinja just to play devil's advocate for a bit
16:53 sri at least those are not C++!
17:01 PerlNinja true
17:01 PerlNinja there's one i think
17:01 PerlNinja somewhere in the Math:: tree
17:01 PerlNinja but that's ... a more or less legitimate use
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17:30 sri hehe
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18:31 crab hi.
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19:53 perlrocks Twitter: "Job security: check http://tinyurl.com/3s6lok4  #catalyst #mojolicious #perl" --perlninja http://twitter.com/perlninj​a/status/61517890012184577
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20:32 sri wonder if i'll be able to stop :o
20:33 janus don't stop, to rock :)
20:33 PerlNinja stop what?
20:33 purl drop and roll
20:33 PerlNinja removing comments?
20:33 PerlNinja :P
20:33 sri yea
20:33 sri i've removed like 1k lines already
20:33 PerlNinja o_O
20:33 janus even purl seems to know ;)
20:34 * sri hugs purl
20:34 * purl nibbles sri's elbow
20:34 PerlNinja well.. dont stop until.... it's OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!! ..... *cough*
20:34 PerlNinja just had to get that in
20:34 sri *crickets*
20:36 PerlNinja yeah... I kill chat on a daily basis :(
20:36 * PerlNinja writes and fixes more plugins as penance
20:37 PerlNinja one thing I realised, coding while sleepy is never good ... gotta stop doing that
20:37 * sri really should go back to hacking on the mongodb driver
20:37 PerlNinja myeah, I should really be doing $work coding but...
20:37 PerlNinja the brain has decided otherwise
20:38 PerlNinja playing games online > coding
20:40 * sri only plays angry birds these days
20:41 sri been addicted to WoW and starcraft though
20:41 PerlNinja I hate it when people post stuff like this: http://computersight.com/programmi​ng/what-is-cgi-capabilities-usage/ so useless...
20:41 PerlNinja heh
20:42 PerlNinja WoW stopped being fun after wotlk
20:42 sri that link smells like a content farm
20:43 PerlNinja it is, probably, but it's just.. gah
20:43 sri WoW stopped being fun after classic ;p
20:43 PerlNinja oh I dunno, burning crusade was okay
20:44 PerlNinja classic was better indeed ... warlocks actually had a use back then :P
20:44 sri naah, flying ruined pvp
20:44 PerlNinja depends on who you ask :P
20:44 PerlNinja I liked hopping on my flying carpet in outlands if i was leveling and some bored 70 strolled by looking for a cheap gank
20:45 sri haha, i've spent a lot of time in arenas back then
20:46 PerlNinja meh arena... did lots of battlegrounds and stuff
20:46 PerlNinja sl/sl spec .. ah, ye ole good times(tm)
20:46 sri i remember that spec -.-
20:46 PerlNinja the one and only pvp spec that afforded survivability really
20:47 sri i was a feral druid with gladiator title when that spec was popular...
20:47 sri i stacked shadow resistance and beat them up in duels ;p
20:47 PerlNinja >_<
20:47 PerlNinja nightmares returning
20:48 PerlNinja see that's why in the end i rolled with a spec everyone said was ridiculous but it worked great - people see warlock. people stack shadow resist. warlock has big demon to chop you up, and is throwing fireballs at you
20:48 PerlNinja >.> i get the feeling people who are reading this are quietly going "nerds" to themselves...
20:49 sri :D
20:49 PerlNinja i stick to lord of the rings online these days, mostly cos it's free to play now, tired of spending 20 bucks a month on something i might or might not lose interest in
20:49 PerlNinja ... that and world of tanks ... tank-style FPS for free, can't beat that shit
20:50 sri angry birds!
20:50 purl angry birds is fun tho
20:50 * sri pats purl
20:50 purl don't mess with me
20:50 * PerlNinja messes with purl ... whatcha gonna do huh?
20:51 * sri pokes purl
20:51 purl hee hee!
20:52 PerlNinja that bot can't decide what it wants :P
20:54 sri short attention span
20:54 purl it has been said that short attention span is a plus too
20:58 sri think i'll go and watch the lincoln lawyer
20:58 PerlNinja :D
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