Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2011-05-01

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02:34 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious in the cloud: Hello DotCloud! - Sebastian Riedel about Perl and the Web http://htn.to/TZWbY4" (ja) --141 http://twitter.com/141/status/64518077957677057
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04:10 GitHub179 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 09c4a1a (6 files in 5 dirs): deprecated Mojo::IOLoop on_hup method in favor of the on_close method - http://bit.ly/lMaEcV
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04:28 GitHub138 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * f3f6123 (1 files in 1 dirs): fixed typo - http://bit.ly/il1i6p
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05:39 perlrocks Twitter: "Your code is your handwriting http://tinyurl.com/5r7rd29  #mojolicious #perl" --perlninja http://twitter.com/perlninj​a/status/64564599088889858
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06:08 sri argh
06:08 sri t/mojolicious/tls_lite_app.t now sometimes produces some annoying warning
06:09 sri "t/mojolicious/tls_lite_app.t .. 1/18 (in cleanup) Can't call method "FILENO" on an undefined value at script/../lib/Mojo/IOLoop.pm line 981 during global destruction."
06:10 sri in case someone is looking for something to hunt
06:10 sri think i'll ignore it for now, since it seems harmless
06:12 * PerlNinja hides in the corner.. no more bughunting.. please.. no more.. make the pain stoooop... (had a rough day or two doing just that in my big big $work project)
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06:15 * sri cracks the whip
06:15 PerlNinja :(
06:15 perlrocks Twitter: "Why I think Mojolicious is the best thing since sliced bread http://tinyurl.com/3tr9g42  #catalyst #mojolicious #perl" --perlninja http://twitter.com/perlninj​a/status/64573730067714049
06:15 PerlNinja does that make it better?
06:16 sri heh :)
06:16 PerlNinja or rather, can I avoid having the whip cracked at me today? :D hehe
06:16 PerlNinja nah been thinking about making that post for a while, just want to stir the drama pot a little bit O:-)
06:16 sri you blog faster than i tweet :o
06:17 PerlNinja Being able to type 300wpm helps
06:17 PerlNinja just don't ask me how long I spend fixing typo's afterward
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06:29 sri btw. https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/hybi/charter/ # final submission of the websockets spec is planned for may ;)
06:29 sri last call ends may 9
06:33 PerlNinja woot
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06:59 Kallisti :) Is there any browser release (can be alpha/dev version, whatever) that supports the currently implemented websocket spec in mojolicious? (<- that is ietf-06 in the current download and ietf-07 in git, right?)
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07:00 sri Kallisti: there are alpha firefox builds
07:01 sri http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive​/web/hybi/current/msg07362.html
07:01 Kallisti ok. do you know any kind of version or something I need to know to find the right? I was unable to find some sort of documentation on which browser version supports which websocket draft exactly ;)
07:01 Kallisti ah, awesome :)
07:02 Kallisti thanks
07:02 sri chrome is draft76
07:02 sri safari supported multiple, some broken
07:02 sri all others have websockets disabled
07:02 sri ietf-07 have a good chance to be the final version
07:05 sri don't try to use websockets in production btw. they are just not ready yet
07:08 Kallisti well, I want to give my browsergame project another try. No idea if we ever manage to finish it at all, but if we do, it will take a long time and since it is mainly for fun, I do not care about compatibility ;)
07:08 Kallisti and websockets are just perfect for that purpose
07:10 sri that's a good use for websockets then
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07:23 perlrocks Twitter: "PerlNinja: Why I think Mojolicious is the best thing since sliced bread http://ff.im/CmSo2" --sharifulin http://twitter.com/shariful​in/status/64590802067791872
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07:50 perlrocks Twitter: "PerlNinja: Why I think Mojolicious is the best thing since sliced bread http://bit.ly/jtT7MM" --perlironman http://twitter.com/perlironm​an/status/64597603177869312
08:04 * sri had sliced bread for breakfast
08:06 sri btw. we still need some test runs on windows 7
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08:30 perlrocks Twitter: "@ Kraih what about writing an article for $ foo? (No I'm not from $ foo) but i think it would be great to the article in it a # mojolicious" (de) --disaster123tw http://twitter.com/disaster12​3tw/status/64607662817558528
08:32 perlrocks Twitter: "@ Kraih what about writing a # mojolicious article for $ foo perl magazine?" (de) --disaster123tw http://twitter.com/disaster12​3tw/status/64608158005469184
09:32 sri damn, weeds keeps getting worse and worse
09:36 marcus weeds gets crazier and crazier
09:36 marcus how far along are you?
09:37 sri just finished season 6
09:37 marcus ah, so you're up to date
09:37 sri i liked the first two seasons... was kinda hoping things get back to normal... but they didn't :S
09:38 marcus I actually thought the last season was an improvement
09:38 sri weeds: roadtrip
09:38 marcus mhm
09:38 sri well, a lot better than 4 and 5
09:38 marcus yepp
09:39 marcus what I meant
09:39 marcus think ep 7 will be filmed in copenhagen?
09:39 marcus would be interested.
09:39 marcus interesting even
09:40 marcus saw the first episode of the killing yesterday. Quite good
09:40 marcus felt like a danish crime series :)
09:40 sri yea, the killing is great
09:41 sri weeds in europe would could be great, but i somehow doubt they'll do it
09:41 sri *-would
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09:44 marcus http://www.tvguide.com/News/We​eds-Finale-Kohan-1025636.aspx
09:46 marcus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUDyZ_wkX3A
09:48 marcus I think the best part of weeds is the intros =)
09:52 sri when the show had intros
09:53 marcus I liked the ones where the logo turned up in interesting places too
09:53 marcus not just little boxes
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11:23 perlrocks Twitter: "Phenona: Simple cloud deployment for Perl developers. Supports mojolicious, MySQL, redis, memcached. Http://www.phenona.com/" (ja) --junysb3 http://twitter.com/junysb3​/status/64651207045681152
11:39 sri hmm
11:40 sri wonder if there are better names for on_build_tx and on_handler
11:44 sri can't really think of anything better though :/
11:45 * marcus never used either
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11:46 sri they are very much internal
11:46 sri but i don't like bad names
11:46 sri they used to be called build_tx_cb and handler_cb at some point
11:47 sri then came the on_ renaming
11:49 sri https://github.com/kraih/mojo​/blob/master/lib/Mojo.pm#L13
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11:49 sri it builds a new transaction on the app layer when new data comes in
11:50 marcus I like the on_ prefix, but it should really be a verb, not a substantive
11:50 marcus like on_building
11:50 marcus on_handling
11:50 marcus but those aren't good either
11:50 sri yea
11:51 sri https://github.com/kraih/mojo/bl​ob/master/lib/Mojo/Server.pm#L35
11:51 sri on_handler is not much easier
11:51 sri it is the callback on the server layer that dispatches to the app layer when a request is ready
11:52 moritz maybe before_send instead of on_building ?
11:52 sri all callbacks have an on_ prefix
11:52 sri i suppose on_handler could be on_request
11:53 sri on_build_tx maybe on_transaction or on_tx
11:56 PerlNinja on_request > on_handler ... just my 2 cents
11:58 PerlNinja no idea for the tx one, if it was me I'd be tempted to keep it as on_build_tx since that's exactly what it does, maybe on_create_tx ...
12:05 sri i think on_transaction would be consistent
12:12 PerlNinja true true
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12:17 GitHub112 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 1c7274e (9 files in 5 dirs): deprecated on_handler and on_build_tx - http://bit.ly/m9nNI0
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12:17 sri that's better
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14:21 GitHub159 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * e09a584 (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed small tag helper escaping bug - http://bit.ly/kA0vCz
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14:32 GitHub54 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * b17240c (2 files in 2 dirs): fix previous bug differently - http://bit.ly/jAfrNi
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15:25 perlrocks Twitter: "One crazy solution for a problem http://tinyurl.com/62ryh7u  #insanity #javascript #mojolicious #perl" --perlninja http://twitter.com/perlninj​a/status/64712098357321728
15:34 marcus PerlNinja: wouldn't it be better to make it lazy, so it only creates a js context if you actually use it?
15:34 PerlNinja it is actually - it creates the runtime during startup since i need that to create contexts
15:35 PerlNinja context is lazily constructed
15:36 PerlNinja and only ends up used if (at the moment) a HTML page is requested - anything asking for json, xml, or whatever doesn't go near it
15:38 marcus sounds good
15:38 marcus interesting solution
15:38 PerlNinja incredible hack too though
15:39 PerlNinja but it's in the "see, it can be done" stage now :) it'll get polished later when i have some time for it, right now it's "we're in a bit of a hurry for 1.0 because our $investorguy needs to show his $investorpeople something good and ... omgwtfbbqpanic" ... from my partners end
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15:40 marcus \o/
15:40 marcus so glad I am not doing venture capital
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15:44 PerlNinja myeah it does tend to raise the pressure level
15:44 PerlNinja anyone who ever said being a programmer is a stress-free job is so completely and utterly wrong
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19:33 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious-Plugin-Authentication 1.15 by MADCAT - http://frepan.org/~madcat/Mojolic​ious-Plugin-Authentication-1.15/" --cpan_new http://twitter.com/cpan_ne​w/status/64774366637985792
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19:45 perlrocks Twitter: "Directory traversal vulnerability in Path.pm in Mojolicious before 1.16 allows remote attackers to read arbitrary fi... http://post.ly/1yaTy" --mushy99 http://twitter.com/mushy99​/status/64777415397879809
20:01 moritz where can I find an example of setting cache expiry headers for static files?
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