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tempire |
How would one test for a segfault? |
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you can't really, unless you write a wrapper |
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Twitter: "perl-Mojolicious-0.999929-3.fc14 - http://rkrh.kr/1n3" --fedorasecurity http://twitter.com/fedorasecur[…]65576389839044609 |
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tempire |
Seeing all these tweets about old mojo versions makes me never want to trust packaging systems ever again |
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tempire |
sweet. forking works well enough |
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k-man |
tempire, are you refering to forking in github? |
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tempire |
k-man: referring to testing for a segfault |
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tempire |
perl fork command |
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k-man |
oh |
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k-man |
heh |
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k-man |
sorry, grabbed wrong end of the fork ;) |
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Twitter: "[Update] CVE-2011-1589: mojolicious: Directory Traversal vulnerability and Path.pm and My ... http://dlvr.it/QXmss" (sl) --pikipiki_net http://twitter.com/pikipiki_ne[…]65591013770674177 |
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nop |
Hello! Has anyone run into trouble using M::Lite and embedded templates on DotCloud? |
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o/ |
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k-man |
hi PerlNinja |
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PerlNinja |
hola k-man |
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tardisx |
sri: I hooked up a dotcloud Mojolicious to a dotcloud PostgreSQL |
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tardisx |
it works :-) it's neat :-) I wonder how much this thing is gonna cost :-D |
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* PerlNinja |
is also eagerly awaiting dotcloud pricing |
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tardisx |
the www. prefix thing is a bit of a show-stopper. who uses www anymore? :-) |
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tardisx |
well, I know it doesn't have to be www, but no bare domain is a problem |
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PerlNinja |
can't cname a bare domain, that's probably why |
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tardisx |
yep |
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PerlNinja |
nothing stopping you from running the bare domain on a linode and just having it bounce redirects |
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miyagawa |
you can also use cloudflare |
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tardisx |
nothing except for the ugliness |
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miyagawa |
http://support.dotcloud.com/en[…]quire-a-subdomain |
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miyagawa |
i wonder what the embedded template problem was that nop had |
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PerlNinja |
no idea - he didn't mention what it was |
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miyagawa |
Hrm |
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miyagawa |
yeah i definitely get that error |
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miyagawa |
i mean, an error :) |
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k-man |
I would love to see an example of retreiving data from a database, and outputting it to a web page in mojo |
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miyagawa |
i guess Mojolicious::Lite failing to read from __DATA__ on uwsgi environment |
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k-man |
in case anyone feels inclined to write one |
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PerlNinja |
might be that ::Lite is trying to read from that psgi file instead of itself |
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miyagawa |
sri: can you confirm ? |
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miyagawa |
it works with plackup, so it should have something to do with the way uwsgi evaluates the .psgi file |
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miyagawa |
if that's the case i'm happy to talk to the author about coordinating a fix |
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miyagawa |
http://gist.github.com/954786 is the script |
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miyagawa |
i get 'foo' as _detect_template_class return value (since i have 'package foo') |
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miyagawa |
if i remove the package then it becomes main, since uwsgi evaluates the .psgi in main |
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miyagawa |
anyway whichever it was, the get_inline_templates fail to load the template it seems |
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miyagawa |
aha. |
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miyagawa |
if i make app.psgi to do 'require "app.pl"' instead of a symlink |
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miyagawa |
then that works |
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miyagawa |
i'll update the dotcloud docs to use that instead of a symlink, but also emailed Roberto, the author of uWSGI, to see if it can be fixed there |
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MisterHatt |
miyagawa: you work on dotclouyd? |
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MisterHatt |
dotcloud even |
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miyagawa |
yep |
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MisterHatt |
still with typepad as well? |
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marcus |
ooh, dotcloud beta, i haz it |
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miyagawa |
MisterHatt: No |
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miyagawa |
MisterHatt: http://bulknews.typepad.com/ |
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MisterHatt |
was already reading, orz |
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miyagawa |
ha |
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zakame |
hi hi |
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k-man |
is there any blog engines written in mojo? |
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MisterHatt |
a few |
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MisterHatt |
no idea how many are public that aren't vtiware though |
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k-man |
vtiware? |
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k-man |
oh right - vti |
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k-man |
I sense there is some issues with this vti person |
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MisterHatt |
who knows, bootylicious is still a blog written in mojo though, even if it is vti |
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is writing a blog +more engine in mojo as well, but it's not ready yet |
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MisterHatt |
apparently you need proper administration and things when releasing software that isn't used in-house, who knew |
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Alias |
:) |
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marcus |
bootylicious would be nice, except it hasn't been maintained for the last 6 years |
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marcus |
it was nice when it worked |
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MisterHatt |
that long? |
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MisterHatt |
I thought it was like, 2 years |
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marcus |
I meant months |
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marcus |
but it's probably more like a year |
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MisterHatt |
yeah |
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* PerlNinja |
has been tinkering with blog software in Mojolicious |
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PerlNinja |
but it's the admin end that just keeps me stuck :P too lazy to finish it really |
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MisterHatt |
last time I looked at it, showed last commit in 2009 or something |
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MisterHatt |
PerlNinja: same here |
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PerlNinja |
what stops you from forking it though? |
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MisterHatt |
my current setup just parses uploaded ftp files |
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marcus |
MisterHatt: last release may 2010 |
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marcus |
I'm actually looking for a replacement for wordpress for a multi-user blog system |
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marcus |
we might end up just writing it ourselves tho |
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MisterHatt |
PerlNinja: I guess compl;exity? he has stuff that to me at least looks overly abstracted and broken up and I can barely tell how it works |
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PerlNinja |
marcus: I found MovableType still does the trick... even if it isn't that good |
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MisterHatt |
marcus: I need a combined wiki/knowledgebase thing with blog and video blog entries on the front page written by contributors |
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MisterHatt |
so... fun |
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MisterHatt |
also I am terrible at pagination |
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Christian |
morning |
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stephanj |
k-man: try bootylite please |
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stephanj |
https://github.com/memowe/bootylite |
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k-man |
google beat you to it ;) |
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stephanj |
mh? |
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purl |
mh is a unix commandline-based mail user agent or at http://www.ics.uci.edu/~mh/ or Men's Health magazine or a "women's magazine" for men or Getty's way of saying hm or stephan48's way of saying hm |
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stephanj |
its a rewrite of bootilicious |
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miyagawa |
uWSGI guy just fixed the DATA issue on app.psgi. Always quick :) |
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PerlNinja |
nice |
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k-man |
so if my sql query returns me an array of rows from a table. how should I use that array to output something? |
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k-man |
what is the benefit of something like this: Mojolicious::Plugin::Database |
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moritz |
not much, it seems |
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moritz |
it doesn't even automatically reconnect on lost connections or something |
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moritz |
it just wraps a DBI->connect call, and caches the result |
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yko |
and provides helper! :) |
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waves |
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PerlNinja |
pretty much that's all it does yes |
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PerlNinja |
I don't like plugins that do too much magic :P |
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MisterHatt |
some could do with more though |
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PerlNinja |
that and I just wrote it for the hell of it anyway :D |
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MisterHatt |
did you also write the couchdb module or was that someone else? |
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PerlNinja |
moritz, but if you want to see auto-reconnect and things like that, just mention it and I'll stick it in |
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MisterHatt |
I recall there being one that was actually useful, but it was a bit complicated |
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PerlNinja |
MisterHatt: someone else I think, I just did ::Database and ::Mongodb |
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MisterHatt |
ah |
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PerlNinja |
and ::Authentication .. that one being the more involved one |
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MisterHatt |
I don't think there was a specific mojo plugin for it anyway |
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MisterHatt |
the auth and pagination and everything else plugins are really cool until you realise they do things differently to how you need, and then it gets irritating :/ |
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moritz |
PerlNinja: it's just that I don't see how that plugin saves more than 3 lines of code, or so |
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moritz |
PerlNinja: some people still like such modules, I personally don't think it's worth the extra dependency |
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PerlNinja |
moritz, it's not done to save the extra lines of code, I think initially it was just to illustrate how to deal with getting DBI connections and not get in trouble with daemon_prefork or hypnotoad |
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PerlNinja |
was more for illustrative purposes, but i'm a fan of putting what I've got on CPAN, it's simple now but at least it's there and can be built on to be something bigger/better :) |
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marcus |
MisterHatt: we don't want mt |
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PerlNinja |
marcus: he didn't mention MT, I did :P hehe |
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marcus |
PerlNinja: damn, guess those two lines just blended together. |
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PerlNinja |
:D |
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marcus |
PerlNinja: we need to make something a lot simpler than mt, and we need to customize it a bit. |
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marcus |
and hacking on the mt code base is not something I would welcome |
| 07:28 |
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MisterHatt |
marcus: mt? |
| 07:28 |
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purl |
hmmm... mt is a server application that is now a full CMS written in perl and PHP for "dynamic publishing" or Movable Type |
| 07:28 |
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MisterHatt |
oh w |
| 07:28 |
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PerlNinja |
I know, MT used to be nice but it's ... well.. it turned nasty |
| 07:29 |
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PerlNinja |
dead community, dead codebase |
| 07:29 |
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MisterHatt |
isn't mt the phpbb of blogging software? |
| 07:29 |
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PerlNinja |
if you mean the redheaded stepchild |
| 07:29 |
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PerlNinja |
yes |
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MisterHatt |
aha |
| 07:29 |
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PerlNinja |
it used to be good |
| 07:30 |
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PerlNinja |
then things went weird. then things went downhill. it's dead, but refusing to pass on, it just sort of lingers around waiting to die |
| 07:30 |
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PerlNinja |
I use it on my blog but that's because I refuse to install PHP just for that, and I haven't gotten around to writing something myself |
| 07:30 |
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PerlNinja |
at least... something finished |
| 07:30 |
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k-man |
ok, I'm working through the mojolicious::lite tutorial |
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k-man |
this bit of wizardry is confusing me: http://mojolicio.us/perldoc?Mo[…]icious%2FLite#toc |
| 07:31 |
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k-man |
blocks |
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k-man |
sorry, wrong link, hang on |
| 07:31 |
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miyagawa |
PerlNinja: it dies when you declare you die |
| 07:31 |
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k-man |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc?Mo[…]ous%2FLite#Blocks |
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miyagawa |
it's very well maintained |
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miyagawa |
and also a community fork melody |
| 07:32 |
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k-man |
so a block is like template and perl code intermingled? |
| 07:33 |
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PerlNinja |
miyagawa: no offense but melody's community consists of former 6A employees and a few MT consultant types |
| 07:33 |
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PerlNinja |
it's got a community yes, but a vibrant one, not so much |
| 07:33 |
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marcus |
melody also has terrible SEO |
| 07:33 |
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marcus |
tried searching for melody blog and found http://www.usagi-melody.blogspot.com/ |
| 07:33 |
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PerlNinja |
same with MT. Try finding plugins that a) work on 5.x, b) actually function, and c) are maintained. not so much. |
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marcus |
first relevant search hit is http://www.movabletype.org/200[…]/meet_melody.html |
| 07:33 |
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PerlNinja |
www.openmelody.org |
| 07:34 |
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miyagawa |
marcus: it's more of a "openmelody" |
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marcus |
miyagawa: yeah, that's what I mean by horrible seo :) |
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marcus |
it's nice that it is hosted on github tho |
| 07:37 |
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marcus |
I see it reached 1.0 on april 19th |
| 07:37 |
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miyagawa |
MT is on github too |
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marcus |
miyagawa: future for mt seems rather bleak given recent sixapart developments tho? |
| 07:38 |
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marcus |
or do you think it will be an important part of say? |
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marcus |
oh, it's .jp now |
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marcus |
forgot that |
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miyagawa |
that's a non-sense questio |
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miyagawa |
it's not a part of SAY anymore :) |
| 07:39 |
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miyagawa |
Six Apart != SAY |
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PerlNinja |
umm |
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PerlNinja |
someone bought 6A and the two ended up as SAY, no? |
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miyagawa |
yes |
| 07:39 |
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miyagawa |
and SAY sold 6A (name) and MT |
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marcus |
miyagawa: to japanese division of six apart? |
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PerlNinja |
yeah okay, I was going to say along the lines of what Marcus said, I don't see a bright future for MT to be honest |
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PerlNinja |
but that's just me |
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miyagawa |
well you can just use wordpress ;) |
| 07:42 |
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PerlNinja |
MT is still better than wordpress |
| 07:43 |
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PerlNinja |
most of all: MT doesn't require PHP, and MT isn't a walking stack of security holes |
| 07:43 |
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miyagawa |
yep |
| 07:43 |
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PerlNinja |
on the feature and useability and hackability and community ... oh, and themes/designs front ... MT doesn't score so well, that's why I say what I say |
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stephanj |
in dotcloud how long does it take after publishing the app till the hostname gets ready? |
| 07:46 |
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miyagawa |
stephanj: weird question because the order is in reverse |
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stephanj |
h? |
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purl |
h is, like, silent, and occasionally zero-width |
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stephanj |
mh?* |
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miyagawa |
do you have an account or are you asking a theoretical question? |
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stephanj |
i tried http://blog.kraih.com/mojolici[…]ud-hello-dotcloud |
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stephanj |
an beta acc |
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miyagawa |
k |
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miyagawa |
hostname usually gets ready *before* you publish your app |
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stephanj |
ah |
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miyagawa |
after you deploy an instance |
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stephanj |
k |
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miyagawa |
create; deploy; (few minutes); instance is up; push; (few seconds) your app is live |
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stephanj |
ye done that |
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stephanj |
status says its running |
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purl |
Since Thu Aug 5 20:55:17 2010, there have been 32035 modifications and 17183 questions. I have been awake for 271 days, 10 hours, 59 minutes, 35 seconds this session, and currently reference 877877 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
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marcus |
alas, poor purl, I knew her well. |
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miyagawa |
stephanj: our frontend nginx seems to have an issue. i'm escalating this now. Try again later ... sorry about that |
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MisterHatt |
miyagawa: sounds like the setup is a bit... wonky |
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miyagawa |
huh? |
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MisterHatt |
or, sorta overly complicated for what it needs to do |
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MisterHatt |
I don't know if that makes sense |
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stephanj |
miyagawa: no problem :) |
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* MisterHatt |
goes dinner |
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miyagawa |
is 4 lines of commands to deploy your app magically "overly complicated"? |
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stephanj |
i think its ok |
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miyagawa |
(well, we'll definitely be simplifying things that don't need to be complicated for sure) |
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stephanj |
:) |
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PerlNinja |
as far as I can tell from a user end of things it's about as simple as it gets |
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PerlNinja |
dunno about the implementation but it seems to be alright ... there's only so many ways to roll a cloud after all |
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stephanj |
ye |
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sri |
good morning fellow evil super computers |
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* PerlNinja |
looks ... wait, when did I turn into a computer?! |
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PerlNinja |
sri: before_render hook++ |
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sri |
PerlNinja: need more examples for cool stuff one can do with it ;) |
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PerlNinja |
let me wikificate for a bit |
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sri |
considering the amount of stuff you can get running on dotcloud with those four commands i don't think it's too complicated |
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sri |
i'm especially impressed with setting up databases |
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sri |
can't wait for workers with port forwarding :) |
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PerlNinja |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]ful-Code-Snippets |
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PerlNinja |
bottom of the page for before_hook examples |
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PerlNinja |
or actually the whole reason I wanted to see it in the first place :D |
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miyagawa |
stephanj: it should be clear now |
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moritz |
can I do anything to get a dotcloud invitation? :-) |
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marcus |
moritz: did you sign up for one? |
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miyagawa |
sign up from the web, wait for a day or two |
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moritz |
marcus: I only tried it with already-used invite codes :/ |
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moritz |
ok, will sign up |
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stephanj |
cool :) |
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purl |
cool :) are you oging to either event tomorrow? |
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stephanj |
i got my invite after 1-2 weeks i think |
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GitHub36 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "perl-1.220.0-1mdv2011.0 Mojolicious-uploaded to contrib / release, cooker: Mandriva http://bit.ly/lt6viy #" (fr) --Kharec http://twitter.com/Kharec/stat[…]65720296912596992 |
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memowe |
When testing a project I want to change the config file settings from the Config plugin locally. Is there a way to do it? |
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memowe |
For now I used a terrible hack and overwrote the parse method of the plugin to do the changes. |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Forward:: Routes 00:15 http://bit.ly/mrlJn9, # # Mojolicious like routes and Rails resources like for # # Plack Perl web framework developers" (de) --fwever http://twitter.com/fwever/stat[…]65730151945736192 |
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memowe |
Like *{Mojolicious::Plugin::Config::parse} = sub { ... |
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memowe |
https://gist.github.com/955067 |
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memowe |
That's pain in the ... |
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memowe |
Maybe an environment var could change the filename? |
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koban |
memowe: would it be better to have separate myapp.test.conf and set $ENV{Mode} = 'test'; ? |
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memowe |
koban: it would! I didn't know that. |
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koban |
now you know ;) |
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sri |
umm, there is an env var already i'm quite sure |
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memowe |
sri: oh, OK, I'll look for it. |
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koban |
MOJO_MODE |
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memowe |
MOJO_CONFIG. Never mind. |
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memowe |
Thanks, guys. :) |
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koban |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]g_mode_lite_app.t |
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memowe |
koban: yip, https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]in/Config.pm#L133 |
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GitHub63 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 10f66ec (2 files in 2 dirs): added recursion protection to before_render hook - http://bit.ly/m5kFba |
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stephanj |
miyagawa: is the smtp service configurable to accept mail from outside? :) |
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stephanj |
on the specific port ofcourse |
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GitHub105 |
mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * dfca01f (2 files in 2 dirs): fixed typos - http://bit.ly/mCQgZR |
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sri |
i'm still a little unsure about before_render |
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stephanj |
why? |
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* PerlNinja |
likes it |
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PerlNinja |
i need it :D hehe |
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sri |
it needs recursion protection for example |
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PerlNinja |
mmm... yeah okay beyond that though it's okay |
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PerlNinja |
or just... sorta.. keep it in there and mark it as "if you do something dumb, like calling ->render, you keep both pieces as soon as your machine stops thrashing" |
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PerlNinja |
:) |
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* Debolaz |
spots a PerlNinja |
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sri |
i kinda like that args and stash are still split in before_render |
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sri |
you can make new magic ->render(foo => 'bar') calls that way |
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PerlNinja |
for me it's just that having access to the stash before it's rendered means i can make auto rendering DWIW without having to explicitly code in that kind of behaviour that i wanted it for |
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sri |
the price for every new hook btw is about 2rps at 1000rps |
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PerlNinja |
mmm |
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PerlNinja |
if i'm doing 1000rps i've got enough hardware to absorb 2rps loss for a hook :P |
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PerlNinja |
that's uh.. what.. 0.2% performance decrease |
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elb0w |
purl yo momma |
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purl |
couldn't get the headlines: http://downlode.org/Code/Perl/[…]f/?source=yo-mama wasn't successful |
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elb0w |
purl yo yo |
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purl |
foolish child. |
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elb0w |
purl hola |
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purl |
bonjour, elb0w. |
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elb0w |
purl tikanez |
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purl |
elb0w: excuse me? |
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sri |
really need some good examples for the before_render pod description |
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sri |
a plugin using it would also be nice |
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sri |
http://maxvoltar.com # neat chrome/webkit scrollbar |
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elb0w |
sri, http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2011/May/75 |
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elb0w |
purl http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2011/May/75 |
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purl |
elb0w: huh? |
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elb0w |
! |
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elb0w |
it should read website titles |
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elb0w |
imo |
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sri |
elb0w: ? |
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elb0w |
the bot |
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elb0w |
why is there no mojo bot? |
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sri |
why did you poke me? |
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elb0w |
major security issues |
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elb0w |
! |
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sri |
and how do those affect us? |
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elb0w |
Listen, ill poke whoever I damn well please |
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elb0w |
dont get fresh with me |
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* sri |
pokes elb0w back, harder |
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* elb0w |
ouch |
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elb0w |
yarg why isnt it saturday |
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elb0w |
:( |
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* chansen |
orders a nuclear bomb |
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* memowe |
orders a buclear nomb. nomb nomb nomb. |
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* chansen |
crap, it failed to detonate |
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* alnewkirk |
is waiting on phenona |
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sri |
phenona will have a hard time once dotcloud gets perl worker support |
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sri |
having a perl client that can be installed easily via cpan is an advantage though |
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sri |
installing the dotcloud client is mostly not fun |
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PerlNinja |
mmm phenona will have it's niche |
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alnewkirk |
sri, plus your looks like it might stay free for a while .... :} |
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alnewkirk |
dotcloud doesnt |
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PerlNinja |
it's not as cloudy as dotcloud but still cool |
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sri |
yea, phenona could have an easier time to stay on top of current developments in the perl community |
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stephanj |
ye |
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stephanj |
i had to install python2.6 from source(not in deb5) and then install some virtualenv version to get it to make me a env for p2.6 |
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PerlNinja |
i see dotcloud more as EC2 with tasty wrappers |
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PerlNinja |
where phenona is more like heroku |
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sri |
ye |
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sri |
dotcloud however could start a webapp marketplace, with one click app installs |
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* moritz |
wants postgres, which currently neither dotcloud nor phenona seem to offer :/ |
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stephanj |
moritz? hue? |
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sri |
dotcloud does |
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moritz |
it does? |
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purl |
if you say so... |
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stephanj |
dotcloud does ye |
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moritz |
cool |
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sri |
it was the first database they offered |
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stephanj |
its referenced in the redmine tutorial |
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* moritz |
just blind |
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alnewkirk |
i think redis and mongodb plus mysql will meet the needs of most |
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moritz |
then I'm not "most" :-) |
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sri |
redis, mongodb and postgres you mean ;p |
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stephanj |
ye |
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stephanj |
who wants mysql?! |
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* moritz |
knows people who do |
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* alnewkirk |
shamefully never made the transition |
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alnewkirk |
mysql to postgres |
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purl |
i guess mysql to postgres is like that moment in the wizard of oz when everything becomes beautiful full color |
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sri |
lol |
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alnewkirk |
though I assume sqlite will be native, advertising support for it wouldnt hurt |
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* PerlNinja |
just needs mongodb :P |
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* PerlNinja |
is becoming a nosql elitist ... *dons baret* |
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elb0w |
is phenona yours sri or they just liked the raptor? |
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sri |
they liked the raptor |
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elb0w |
thats cool |
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elb0w |
be nice if it gets adopted |
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sri |
i don't even have a beta invite yet ;p |
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elb0w |
haters gonna hate |
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PerlNinja |
raptors gonna... rap? |
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moritz |
raptors gonna vomit. |
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elb0w |
who the hell thought up a onion for a perl logo |
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moritz |
elb0w: if I tell you that it started as a pun, can you guess? |
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elb0w |
moritz, my only guess would be larry wall since thats the only person I really know anything about regarding perl haha |
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moritz |
elb0w: correct |
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moritz |
elb0w: he gave several "State of the Onion" talks at OSCON |
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mateu |
the first three were given at the predecessor to OSCON called "Perl Conference". The layers of onion were used for analogy, but I can't seem to find a link to the 1st one. |
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* marcus |
submits his mojolicious talk to NPW and YAPC::EU |
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sri |
\o/ |
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sri |
marcus: i really liked the article you were working on last time i saw it, would be a shame not to finish it |
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marcus |
sri: it would be. I will do it, just moving and stuff has taken a lot of my energy/time |
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marcus |
but things are getting more or less in order now |
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sri |
great |
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sri |
it's the kind of "broad introduction" i so far failed to write |
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* mateu |
dangles a golden carrot in front of marcus |
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marcus |
mateu: what kind of a girl do you take me for? |
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mateu |
a cute and gullable one? |
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marcus |
that's what I thought |
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mateu |
gullible* # english is hards |
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PerlNinja |
one day there should be a perl conference in Indonesia or at least Malaysia .. or maybe Singapore |
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PerlNinja |
at least then I could show up :d |
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marcus |
Thanks, your talk submission has been recorded as Mojolicious - A New Hope. |
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marcus |
PerlNinja: .jp is unpossible? |
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marcus |
there's a conference there every year. |
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* sri |
humms the imperial march |
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PerlNinja |
marcus: nop, too far away really |
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marcus |
I find it strange that they call it YAPC Europe, yet it is always in tokyo :) |
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PerlNinja |
and i'd need to get visa - pain in the ass cos have to go jp embassy in jakarta |
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PerlNinja |
and that's ... yeah |
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marcus |
sounds fun |
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PerlNinja |
well it's mostly the indonesian staffers that make it a bitch :D |
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PerlNinja |
had to accompany a friend and they basically refuse to speak indonesian - they will insist on speaking english, but their english is worse than my indonesian .. and my indonesian isn't that good to beginw ith |
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PerlNinja |
so all in all it just turns into one big confused mess |
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PerlNinja |
so meh :D |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "New talk submitted: Mojolicious - A New Hope #ye2011 #perl #mojo http://yapceurope.lv/ye2011/talk/3433" --yapcrussia http://twitter.com/yapcrussia/[…]65788770955431936 |
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marcus |
that was quick, my submission to yapc::eu is already accepted :) |
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PerlNinja |
was considering seeing if Bandung,pm has any life left in it but ... seems it's dead |
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sri |
\o/ |
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PerlNinja |
that is quick :D |
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mateu |
yapcrussia? |
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marcus |
yapc eu is in riga |
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marcus |
arranged by the russians, afaik |
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mateu |
ah, cool. wife going w/ ya? |
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marcus |
Yepp. We'll probably stay at her cousin's place in Riga. |
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PerlNinja |
hope vti doesn't try to come kill you marcus :P |
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marcus |
I have no problems with vti |
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marcus |
and I don't think he has any issues with me... He gave me the haml renderer without problems |
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PerlNinja |
nah just kidding, vti, russian, yapc eu organised by russians... there's a russian mob joke in there somewhere |
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PerlNinja |
see this is why I turned to programming instead of stand-up comedy |
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PerlNinja |
I suck marginally less at the former |
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marcus |
PerlNinja: it was probably for the best. |
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PerlNinja |
yeah I have no funny :( |
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sri |
can haz funny? |
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PerlNinja |
no can haz... cos ... no haz ... no can gief |
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PerlNinja |
i speak caturdayese though |
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sri |
:( |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojo TaGO open for lunch downtown at 3rd and State. Mojolicious." --mojotago http://twitter.com/mojotago/st[…]65791241455017984 |
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marcus |
wtf |
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* sri |
is now hungry |
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kvorg |
sri: can i bother you with a question regarding the use of Mojo::IOLoop. My app is communicating with a backend application, currenty via a module written with IPC::Open3. It sends commands via the STDIO and reads STDOUT and STDERR. The module has some problems and I would like to rewrite. Do you have examples how to do the polling using Mojo::IOLoop? |
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kvorg |
examples would really help so that I don't cause too much noise over the channel with silly questions here. |
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sri |
there is MojoX::Run on cpan, it's a bit outdated though |
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kvorg |
alternatively, I can go with IPC::Open3 and just do the async polling externally with IOLoop as I do now. |
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kvorg |
damn, forgot about that |
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sri |
Mojo::IOLoop->connect(handle => $handle, on_read => sub {...}); should be the only example you need though |
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sri |
example on the wiki would be very much appreciated though |
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kvorg |
and you would just do that for STDOUT and STDERR? |
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sri |
this is becoming kind of a common question |
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sri |
yes you would |
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kvorg |
it sure is. that is because Mojo[licous] became the perfect glue for putting things up on the web |
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kvorg |
people will want to connect all kind of things with mojolicious |
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sri |
maybe a modern version of MojoX::Run as a plugin would be neat |
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kvorg |
plus i find that Mojo::Base is just the kind of object base i like. i rewrote the high-level glue for this thing in it and i have 5 times the functionality in the same amount of code as the original module, just much faster |
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kvorg |
incidentaly, many of my objects have array or has references in attributes. i suppose people could get confused about how to do that, perhaps some more examples of such usage in the pod (as opposed to the code) would be nice |
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sri |
more examples are always good |
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kvorg |
ow, and i can't tell you how nice it is to be able to get delayed instantiation of objects in attributes so easily with the Mojo::Base syntax, i don't think people (outside the Mojolicious users) realize how clean and neat things can be with this |
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sri |
<3 lazy attributes |
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kvorg |
yep. it was painful watching the simplicity that replaced the hairy code in the original implementation |
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kvorg |
btw, i have found the wiki example of testing lite apps very useful. |
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kvorg |
do you think a generator for a lite app test would be helpful? |
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sri |
dunno |
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kvorg |
i will think about it and perhaps submit a test. i understand that you don't really want to channel people into overextending lite apps instead of growing them? |
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kvorg |
*a test -> a pull request for a generator |
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sri |
you can always make it a separate distribution ;) |
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sri |
need more plugins! |
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sri |
even if it doesn't get used much, such a generator plugin would be a good example |
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kvorg |
ok |
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kvorg |
MojoX::Run was last updated on february 28th, and it requires at least Mojolicious 0.999940. |
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sri |
what i'd rather like to see in core would be tests for generators, before adding new ones |
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kvorg |
you have a point there |
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sri |
MojoX::Run predates a few ioloop updates, think we fixed a few things it needed workarounds for |
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kvorg |
not just testing if it generates the files you expect, but if they actually load and run, i expect? |
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sri |
ideally |
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kvorg |
quite a nicely self-contained sub-task :-P |
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sri |
doing that portably can be a bitch i think |
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kvorg |
i thought there are sufficient directory and loading functionalities in core and Mojolicious? |
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moritz |
the tools shoudl be there, but it can still be a bitch |
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sri |
well, windows has bitten me so many times... |
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kvorg |
hmm, in fact, if we had generators for tests for lite app, makefile and similar, the generator tests could simply run the generators and related tests |
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kvorg |
we might have to expand the tests generated to cover the generators better, but that would not be much of a harm, no? |
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kvorg |
the test would generate and app or a lite app, run the apps' test generator and then run its tests |
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sri |
sounds scary to debug if somethign breaks |
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sri |
test fail in a generated test... eeep |
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kvorg |
yeah, i am not sure how to handle that with the test harness ... |
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kvorg |
but if generated tests pass, you are really testing the genereated app and generated tests |
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sri |
testing if files look sane and have the right permissions should be a good start |
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kvorg |
i will look into it. i am currently writing the test for my damn app since there is more interest in the related field (corpus linguistics) than i expected and i am now headed towards a full distribution |
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sri |
testing generated tests is still damn scary |
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kvorg |
it is |
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kvorg |
writing 10 good tests per day is quite a lot of work, and i am only 60% done ... i will never skip tests while developing again (and i should write that 100 times without the use of 'x' operator) |
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moritz |
use map :-) |
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sri |
btw. we still need a new codename |
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sri |
http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F300.pdf |
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sri |
START LOOKING! |
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sri |
something for the summer |
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sri |
TROPICAL DRINK? |
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kvorg |
hmmm, TROPICAL DRINK sounds inviting |
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kvorg |
but my fonts are not showing it to me :-( |
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slaps his gnu/linux thingy |
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kvorg |
hmm, last may there should have been a v VOLCANO release |
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sri |
:) |
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kvorg |
cool |
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kvorg |
i was away: could you simplify stuff with the 5.8 deprecation? (and no, I don't think i have 5.8 running anywhere, and i tend to have old stuff around for ages) |
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sri |
? |
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sri |
http://groups.google.com/group[…]/510dcf2219371deb |
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kvorg |
thanx |
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kvorg |
funny comments, to be expected, of course |
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kvorg |
but over here, we like to run modern operating systems, and if anyone really needs obsolete stuff, we stuff obsolete people in VMs with old RHEL and Centos releases, and leave the rest of the world in the flow of time. |
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kvorg |
after all, one has to draw a line somewhere. otherwise, one would have to support people running stuff in perl4 |
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just realized that centos 5.6 ships with perl v5.8.8 !!! :'( |
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* kvorg |
shows the centos related VMs in a corner and happily ignores them. |
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j-v-e |
seriously, even debian lenny, 3 years old, comes with perl 5.10 |
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sri |
well, see my comments in the list thread for examples of serious flaws in perl 5.8 |
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PerlNinja |
RHEL and Centos are the only ones that still ship 5.8.8, Debian, Gentoo, Ubuntu, and pretty much all others come with 5.10 |
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PerlNinja |
it's like.. RH is intent on trying to keep the putrefying gory zombie corpse that is perl 5.8 alive somehow |
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kvorg |
sorry to have (re)started this conversation. let's leave the zombies to rot in peace. this is a modern project, they can go use the perl1 re-creation. |
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PerlNinja |
sri: 1F3FF - Herb. Summer makes me want to smoke leafy green things :P |
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sri |
mmmmm |
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PerlNinja |
either that or 1F420 - Tropical Fish |
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sri |
i don't want to scare people, but they should think about it |
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PerlNinja |
meh |
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PerlNinja |
anyone running 5.8 isn't keeping up with the times anyway, so if they want to use mojolicious and it forces them to upgrade or not use the awesomesauce ... their problem |
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PerlNinja |
last time i saw a 5.8 perl was on a machine i installed RHEL on 3 years ago |
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sri |
yea, it's onlt rhel/centos |
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sri |
*only |
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PerlNinja |
fuck em |
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sri |
i fucking hate deadrat linux... |
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PerlNinja |
majority of people seem to run debian or ubuntu or another half-sane distro that ships with a decent perl |
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* PerlNinja |
admits to using RH 4 at some point in time |
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sri |
cheap hosters and enterprisey people sadly love rhel... |
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PerlNinja |
then i found out about Gentoo ... now I can't be arsed dicking with it being on a slow internet link so.. Ubuntu it is |
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PerlNinja |
sri: cheap hosters just use it because cPanel and/or Plesk tend to require Centos or RHEL |
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PerlNinja |
and then there's the "yeah but RHEL has support! omgz..." thing.. |
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PerlNinja |
I dunno, in my adminning career I've always managed to put my foot down and install sane distros ... |
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PerlNinja |
even if it meant telling my boss yes, RHEL is installed.. and in the meantime I'm quietly slipping the Debian CD's in my bag |
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PerlNinja |
so hey sri .. a mojolicious plugin that lets people write controllers in javascript :P should i bother sticking that on cpan for novelty value or not bother :D |
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sri |
PerlNinja: do you really expect me to say no? :D |
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PerlNinja |
well, depends |
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purl |
depends are always installed. |
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PerlNinja |
... |
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PerlNinja |
purl, depends are diapers for grown up people |
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purl |
...but depends is always installed.... |
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purl |
...but depends are always installed.... |
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PerlNinja |
anyway :) I dunno whether you say no or not, I'd probably do it anyway if you said no :P Just not too interested in scaring people off with odd plugins hehe |
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PerlNinja |
Mojolicious::Plugin::Nodejolicious ... O:-) |
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PerlNinja |
meh .. will get around to that later |
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PerlNinja |
first... i go find me a hammer and some nails and make sure the ceiling in my office doesn't come down ... *mumble* |
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sharifulin |
sri, hello ;) I think this is mistake https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]e10734a34ed#L1R54 |
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sharifulin |
if $] >= 5.010 |
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PerlNinja |
mistake as in typo, or mistake to require 5.10? :P |
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sharifulin |
typo of course) |
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sharifulin |
>= 5.10 is good wave :) |
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miyagawa |
not a typo. |
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miyagawa |
perl $] uses 5.XXXYYY formatting |
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miyagawa |
ah, got what you mean. <= vs >= :D |
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sharifulin |
yes, >= |
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sri |
ops |
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sri |
2 of 4 have the typo :/ |
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sharifulin |
sri, what do u think about this: add to Mojo::Base flag -controller, alias to Mojolicious::Controller? |
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sharifulin |
use Mojo::Base -controller is better than use Mojo::Base 'Mojolicious::Controller' :) |
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sharifulin |
sri, and what do u think about this code of controller https://gist.github.com/955794 |
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sharifulin |
My App::Base https://gist.github.com/955787 |
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sharifulin |
Do you like 'with' argument in *::Base construction? |
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sri |
too much magic for my taste |
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sri |
i like things simple :) |
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sri |
i can understand -controller, but "with" is way out of my comfort zone |
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sharifulin |
Sometimes I need to include any modules to the controller and use it as attributes |
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sharifulin |
There are a lot of has 'name_of_module' => sub { Name::Of::Module->new(%{ +shift }) } |
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sri |
you forgot use Mojo::Base -app; ;) |
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sharifulin |
sri, Mojolicious::Controller is difficult name for newbie and intermediate mojo folks :) |
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sharifulin |
-controller is very easy and short |
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sri |
actually i especially don't like it for beginners |
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sri |
since important information gets lost |
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sharifulin |
You can use old base syntax |
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sri |
use Mojo::Base 'Mojolicious::Controller'; is simple and obvious |
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sharifulin |
:) |
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sharifulin |
sri, okay :) What do you think about the support for relative paths in include helpers? |
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sharifulin |
i.e. include './some_tmpl' |
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sri |
how would that be different from what we have now? |
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sharifulin |
relative to the current controller and action |
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sharifulin |
for example: admin-news#item |
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sharifulin |
admin/news/item.html.ep |
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sri |
that could easily be a plugin |
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sharifulin |
contains include 'admin/new/more.inc' |
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sharifulin |
include './more.inc' |
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sharifulin |
Why not in the core? |
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sri |
because i'm not convinced |
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sri |
i want to see people actually use it fist |
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sri |
*+r |
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sri |
especially now that we have before_render |
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sri |
this could be a perfect use case :) |
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sri |
and i need examples for it |
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sharifulin |
okay |
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PerlNinja |
before_render++ :P |
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sri |
rewriting the template argument could work quite well |
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sharifulin |
Finally it would be cool if in debug mode has been written about what was to render the template |
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* sri |
didn't understand that sentence |
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sharifulin |
I'd like to see all rendered name of templates in logs (debug mode) |
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moritz |
that would be awesome |
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moritz |
(maybe too noisy by default, so only enabled with a special flag) |
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moritz |
especially since the error messages don't contain the template names |
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sri |
that's rather complicated |
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sri |
but i'd like that too |
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the mojo error screen is designed for browser viewing. however, I am running an ajax call and I would prefer some sort of dump to a text file or plain text response... or maybe this dynamic error page dumped to a file so I can open it and view it |
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metaperl |
in other words, my ajax called error'ed out with a server error (./start.pl daemon --reload) |
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metaperl: define your own exception.format.ep ? |
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sri |
it only does exception.html.ep by default |
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he will have to make his own render_exception |
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sri |
moritz: i think you'll like that |
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i see |
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metaperl |
which files does daemon --reload check for recency? |
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all |
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get out of my twitter stream! |
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mmmmm... cake |
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