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Twitter: "Mojolicious now thought to be wonderful. - Could not reproduce the behavior I wanted to reflow text disappears [Perl code] http://t.co/CTmn4NB" (ja) --purasiibo http://twitter.com/purasiibo/s[…]71795886694473728 |
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Twitter: "Slug has been further Mojolicious look like a." (ja) --hisaichi5518 http://twitter.com/hisaichi551[…]71799536749785088 |
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marcus |
mojolicious looks like a slug? |
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marcus: _,-._,O_o ? |
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trone: just trying to parse the mysterious .jp |
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trone |
marcus: sorry, I'm missing something (what is .jp?) |
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trone: http://twitter.com/#!/hisaichi[…]71799536749785088 |
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marcus |
trone: .jp => japan |
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trone |
ah ok. :) eheh... I'm working on template .ep … arrr. |
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trone |
In MyApp, I have a sub in controller MyApp::Cont that want to use a parent method. It's ok access to the MyApp::method from MyApp::Cont using $self->app->method? Other ways? I have some problem with my design? :-/ |
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moritz |
calling methods is fine |
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moritz |
whether you have a design problem can't be answered from that short and high-level description |
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moritz: So, seem ok pass throught ->app-> to call a parent method. This was my problem. |
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can't parse that sentence |
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moritz: sorry. :-( I didnt know whether to use ->app on MyApp::Cont object was ok to call a MyApp method. |
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moritz: http://paste.debian.net/117534/ Maybe with code is more clear. (I would share the dbhandler among controllers) |
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Maybe I found a better solution: http://paste.debian.net/117538/ wrap with an helper (r.10) the connection sub (r.29), so I call it in the Controller easily (r.52). :-) |
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sri |
did i miss the rapture? |
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Don't know. I only know people who have a deadline till october. |
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trone |
After a POST action if I do a redirect the call keep the POST method? |
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trone |
Actually I setted the $self->req->method('GET') before $self->redirect_to() in the Controller action |
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sri |
http doesn't work that way |
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sri |
a followup request is always a fresh get |
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without any connection to the previous one, besides the url and maybe cookies |
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sri: ehm... sorry. You are right. Now it works. Probably I badly saved. :-( |
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zimmski |
hi! I'm trying to implement a simple echo websocket application with mojolicious (1.34) but firefox(with websocket enabled) and chrome keep disconnecting immediately. http://pastebin.com/4uWyW83K is it a bug in mojolicious? |
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zimmski: which mojolicious version? |
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sri: 1.34 |
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sri |
and firefox version? |
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4.0.1 |
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sri |
can't work |
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sri |
mojolicious uses the new ietf-07 spec and firefox draft-76 |
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Oh ok :) can you recommend a browser? |
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you would need one of the new Aurora builds with websocket support |
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sri |
jetty has also been updated to ietf-07 (if you want command line tools) |
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zimmski: http://www.ducksong.com/misc/w[…]/ws-07/5.0.a2.04/ |
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sri |
those are alpha builds from the guy working on websockets for mozilla |
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So ietf-07 is the websocket version which will get implemented in all new browser? |
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sri |
looks like it yea |
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sri |
the protocol spec was in working group last call |
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and i don't think there were any big issues |
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think they are just cleaning up details in the spec atm |
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I did not read anything about it in the mojolicious docs? |
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about what? |
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There is no hint that you need a nightly build browser for websocket to work. |
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that tends to change all the time |
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sri |
you can't use websockets in production anyway |
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doesn't seem worth pointing out all the current drawbacks all the time |
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sri |
at this point in time websockets are just a toy |
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Oh I just want to hold a presentation at university how you can use new html5 features. And I thought it would be nice to check out mojolicious |
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Besides my websocket problems I really like it =) |
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sri |
sounds like nightly browser builds are very much on topic then :) |
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make sure to try MOJO_WEBSOCKET_DEBUG=1 |
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sri |
gives some great insights into the protocol |
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Do I have to enable something else too? |
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sri |
if you just want to check that websockets work use "mojo daemon" and connect to http://127.0.0.1/diag/ and click on websockets |
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sri |
*http://127.0.0.1:3000/diag/ |
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there's a simple roundtrip test there |
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yesss it works |
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"MOJO_WEBSOCKET_DEBUG=1 mojo daemon" is fun |
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but i suppose you don't care too much about the protocol :) |
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Well i will dive into it :-) |
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sri |
http://tools.ietf.org/html/dra[…]socketprotocol-07 # latest spec |
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they are basically just changing the wording now, with a bit of luck it's mostly final |
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I will take a closer look for my presentation. Thanks! |
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sri |
oh, almost forgot |
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zimmski: the last version with draft-76 support was Mojolicious 1.16 |
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sri |
you could use that for a demonstration too i guess |
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http://search.cpan.org/~kraih/Mojolicious-1.16/ |
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sri |
i left it on cpan for that purpose actually |
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sri |
there are serious bugs, but for a demonstration it's fine |
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Would be nice, because people in the audience could play with the app while I'm jabbering to myself =) |
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sri |
just don't talk about the protocol then, draft-76 was very amateurish and ugly :) |
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Sorry I've to mention it |
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compare http://tools.ietf.org/html/dra[…]ocol-76#section-4.2 vs http://tools.ietf.org/html/dra[…]ocol-07#section-4.2 |
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sri: any browsers got draft07 support yet? |
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nightly builds only |
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even internet explorer though :) |
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they are all picking up ietf-07 now |
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marcus |
nice |
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ie10 self-updates too, right? |
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sri |
prolly not |
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the firefox update path is also a bit weird |
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marcus |
it's very painless with chrome these days |
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sri |
yea, chrome updates are awesome |
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marcus |
my biggest concern with chrom is that they aren't using native scrollbars. |
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marcus |
which means it's pretty good all in all :) |
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marcus |
chrome |
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sri |
there's also chrome canary for os x now |
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marcus |
what's the difference? |
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purl |
the difference is Epsilon, a number that gets closer to zero the longer you think about it. |
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marcus |
oh, bleeding edge |
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purl |
bleeding edge is more like a gushing, spurting arterial spray edge. |
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marcus |
I need that :) |
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sri |
;) |
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sri |
13.0 version |
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sri |
and all yellow logo |
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has almost bought hype |
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too |
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then i noticed how ugly it looked |
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sri |
never trust ugly design software |
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it looks like an ilife app :p |
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sri |
naah, it doesn't look native somehow |
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sri: I looked at both sections. 76 describes what you should do without any information and 07 describes actually a protocol. Is this the main difference? |
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sri |
zimmski: the sad thing is, that *is* actually the draft76 protocol |
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sri |
it only uses a utf8 stream that is delimited with a few token characters |
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sri |
back then there was a requirement, the protocol should be implementable by amateurs |
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sri |
now they've left that behind, and went with a more extendable real protocol |
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marcus |
apart from the icon, I can't tell the difference with canary. |
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sri |
more about:flags options |
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marcus |
ooh, lots of fun there |
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marcus |
Focus existing tab on open |
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marcus |
that must be my favorite so far |
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sri |
think i'm in love with iterm2 now |
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sri |
so much snappier than last time i tried it |
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looks like all the rough edges are gone |
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marcus |
yeah, I use it too |
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I just wish the menu would appear if I hover at the top in fullscreen |
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like it does in chrome |
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marcus |
new chrome 3 finger gesture is neat too |
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marcus |
sri: with mojo::dom, can't I use at on the result for an each? |
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sri: I tried $res->dom('li')->each(sub { print shift->at('a') }); but it didn't seem like the at was sensitive to the li, and it seems like it reset the dom object; |
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sri |
you can |
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sri |
i don't see how that example could not work |
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->dom('li')->each(sub { print $_->at('li > a') }) |
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sri |
only something like that could leave the results |
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since we normally don't generate new trees for every result |
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mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * c2d902d (1 files in 1 dirs): added more Mojo::DOM tests - http://bit.ly/mqRETV |
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sri |
marcus: and there's proof |
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sri |
btw |
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sri |
you can always make it not look upwards the tree by rendering and reparsing the result |
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sri |
->dom('li')->each(sub { print Mojo::DOM->new->parse("$_")->at('li > a') }) |
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sri |
something like that is a lot more expensive though |
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crab |
is there any point adding behind-password corporate sites to the mojo wiki list? |
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crab |
maybe i can't mention it publicly anyway. oh well, i'll just have to complete one or more of my non-work mojo projects and add them instead. |
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sri |
crab: of course there is |
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crab |
why? just to increase the number? |
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sri |
to me it is very interesting |
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sri |
don't you think it is interesting that craigslist uses mongodb? |
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crab |
ok, i'll see if they mind being listed. probably they'll have no idea what i even mean. |
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crab |
and i'll ahve to explain to them what is open source. |
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sri |
do you care that it is only for their data warehouse in the background and not the public facing website? |
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sri |
no idea why you would even think about not adding internal corporate usage to the list |
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crab |
i'm a marketing dinosaur. |
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crab |
spiky neck bones and all. |
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crab |
http://www.sparkjava.com/ |
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sri |
lol |
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giggles helplessly |
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sri |
hmm, i really don't like the chrome downloader |
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miyagawa |
OMG http://www.sparkjava.com/why.html is epic |
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miyagawa |
"because we don't have time to learn Ruby" |
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sri: mojolicious 1.16 with websocket works really great, thanks again! |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Adding 256 color terminal support to my #vim theme. :) #perl #mojolicious http://t.co/ovZc3qP" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/72041125837406208 |
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just came back from seeing source code |
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marcus |
miyagawa: there should be a 'No really, why?' page as well :) |
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marcus |
sri: you're actually using vim now? |
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sri |
sometimes |
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sri |
mostly still textmate though |
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marcus |
same for me |
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marcus |
been thinking of trying bbedit |
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maybe not. seems bbedit has no cmd-t open quickly equivalent |
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is it time for velocirapture yet? |
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sri |
i think you missed it |
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you're right. i don't see a single velociraptor around... |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "MOJO TaGO Truck headed to Hudson Street Hooligans right now. Corner of Oakland and Summit. Open by 8pm. Mojolicious." --mojotago http://twitter.com/mojotago/st[…]72077321821106177 |
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mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 719b2b6 (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed nested selector bug in Mojo::DOM - http://bit.ly/jbALPz |
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marcus: ok, nested selectors should be more predictable now |
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sri |
as in only search inside the current result |
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searching higher up the tree makes sense from an implementation point of view, but can be quite confusing from the user perspective i guess |
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